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Union Hall (Sort of) Lifts Stroller Ban

200802strollerban.jpgLast weekend we took a look at Union Hall's new baby ban. The owner, Jim Carden, upset a lot of stroller-pushers when he declared kids would no longer be allowed in the establishment and put up a sign reading: "no strollers please". He asked nicely, but the Park Slope parents weren't having it. They rallied together on blogs to gain back the right to booze it up with their babies on board.

They won. Today the Brooklyn Paper's Smartmom announces that "the bar will once again welcome in moms and their kids for some downtime (and drinks!) a few afternoons a week." Prompting the question: "can we all get along?" Most likely the regular bar set won't be at the bar on the afternoons, but it's inevitable that they'll have something to say about it. The problem is mostly with parenting skills, many imbibing baby-watchers don't, in fact, watch their babies too closely, leaving employees and patrons chasing after their children.

“It was strictly liability,” Carden said. “A lot of parents are great and mindful. But some are not that attentive to their kids when they’re in here. This is a bar with an open stairwell and a bocce court. This is a business and we don’t have the staff to police it.”
While there will be a few "off hour" afternoons that allow the under-aged, there will no longer be "mommy groups". But we're sure a much more appropriate venue can be found for such a thing, right?

Photo via Noelle D'Arrigo's Flickr.

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  • victoria



    Last Sunday I went to a bar with some of my friends. There a couple came along with their 1 year old baby in a Stroller. The baby was crying and not being silent and moreover the stroller was occupying lot of space which was making difficult for other people. People shouldn't bring their kids in bar or any crowded places if they cannot handle them. Its better they hire a babysitter.

  • Das Boot

    Yeesh... as a dad I will once and a while bring my daughter with me into a bar. Always between 4-7... usually more towards 4 though. Rarely when its crowded. She always sits quietly or maybe watches the pool game.

    Someone once did ask "what kind of parent brings a kid into a bar" to which I responded "I DO"... sadly he was too drunk at 5 in the afternoon to muster much of a response.

    Incidentally, my stroller folds up to the size of a tall umbrella.

  • i heart bonnies

    equally as pathetic as the parents that can't seem to let go are the ardent "this is a BAR" crowd in these comments. Hve they been to Union Hall during the day? It's not like impressionable kids are going to see knife fights or porn being made. Get over yourselves. You are not living a risky life unsuitable for kids' eyes. You are sitting on your ass, watching TV or talking to someone. Ooooohhh.

  • minerva

    Okay, so I actually saw a mother injure her own child in an overcrowded bar. She was pushing at strollers and other tables with her table trying to make nonexistent room for her and her toadler by shoving away the baby paraphernalia at the next table bunched up against hers.

    What her pea brain didn't realize was that before one starts moving furniture around in a crowded place one should survey the area. Her kid was under that table. This mother cracked the kid in the head when she moved the table.

    I witnessed this but was too far away and the place was too noisy for me to warn the mother. I did however, have a quiet word with the manager telling him that if this mother tried to sue for injuries I would be happy to be a witness to the fact that she and she alone was responsible for hurting her child who had no business being there in the first place.

    I no longer go to this once cool neighborhood tavern. It is more like a pre-school than the great meeting place it once was. I just can't help wonder what all the mothers and fathers are thinking by bringing small children to crowded noisy, bars where pictures of the Grateful Dead and all kinds of cool adult comments are written on the walls.

    Just more proof that any parent bringing kids to these kinds of places are selfish, thoughtless and in denial that their lives must change when they have kids. I shudder to think what type of child they are raising.

  • Joclyn

    Good to know, thanks!

  • MC

    Joclyn, you can definitely bring your dog to The Gate. They love dogs there.

  • Joclyn

    All this, and I still can't bring my dog into a bar. All she'll do is sleep at my feet.

  • virgil

    I have no problem with a parent bringing their (well-behaved) kid to a mellow bar and having a drink with their friends, while folding up and stowing away their stroller. But they have to respect the primary function of the bar, and not expect it to be a daycare center simply because they have appeared.

    As someone pointed out above, it's the strollers that were banned, not kids. Since stroller size and a sense of entitlement seem to be directly related, it becomes a problem. Many of these moms are simply too self-centered to notice that their machines of convenience are incredibly inconvenient for everyone else.

  • jackblack

    Hate to say it, but the bozos who run Union Hall opened themselves up to this kind of thing when they started SERVING BRUNCH, making their front room look like a warm and cozy cafe, and pretending to be a "Tea Lounge with Bocce". Tea Lounge in Park Slope was always overrun with strollers during the day, and you can bet dollars to donuts Jim Carden and his gang were salivating at the idea of tapping into all that "mommy" money. Now, when they realize how much of a pain in the ass it is, they can't get rid of them. Ha. Serves them right-- taste of their own medicine. Just wait-- won't be too long before one of those mommies gets cell-phone-ographed giving their kid a "nip" or two. ;-)

  • msk

    Ew, ew, ew!!! Do they really breastfeed in the bar? That has to be a joke, right? Like I want to see your barbaric, parasitic behavior while I'm drinking... gross. Ugh, I can just imagine the barfights when some drunk guy makes an icky comment and the husband reacts...

    Glad I don't live in Park Slope. Blech.

  • captainblackout

    Why would anyone want to party in Park Slope?

  • megs

    In ten or twelve years, the overly entitled teenagers of Park Slope will be wearing their shitty parents out.

    And I will be laughing. From a bar stool. Across the room from the table of alcoholic kids with the fake IDs.

  • allie25

    keep your filthy, screaming, obnoxious, dirty child out of my f-ing way.

    it's that simple.

    these mothers think they can have their cake and eat it too.

    ugh.

    with motherhood comes the assumption that you will have to give up sone of the luxuries you enjoyed before you had kids, such as, going to a bar. this baffles me, why would you want to have a child at a bar anyways? go home and drink a glass of wine.

  • ChampionOfTheSun

    I wonder if these mothers wear beer helmets while breast feeding.

  • HughGass

    parents .... act like parents. accept the fact you're no longer bar hoppers. don't drink with your kids. what is wrong with people?

  • pliers

    Union hall is the best place to watch breastfeeding. I mean, if that's your thing.

  • eyekantspel

    Best thing to do might be to rent a storefront near Union Hall, offering a safe, child-friendly environment for drunk moms to park their kids.

  • solidago

    Walk two blocks down Union to Canal Bar on Third Avenue. The only thing running around is a little mutt and you usually don't have to worry about her getting under your feet as she usually is sitting in a chair, or on the bar.

  • emilydickinson

    I'm renting a storefront on 7th Avenue, and I'll make it look like the world's best toy and candy shoppe...from the outside. Then when children run inside,excited and happy, the whole place will be pitch black, and The Kid Whipper will appear to whip your children! Once. In the corner of the mouth. Then fade into the shadows...I'd whip the parents too, but they'll probably enjoy it much too much.

  • Mr Vos

    I will simply kick the fucking stroller out of my way next time I see one in a bar.

    Oh, and Union Hall has lost my business forever. Who wants to get drunk with a bunch of uptight, entitled, self-important 'moms'?

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