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Photograph of Obama, Clinton and Edwards at the Nevada debate by Charles Rex Arbogast/AP
Yesterday the three top Democratic contenders for the presidential nominations debated in Nevada. The debate wasn't as testy as previous ones, in part because Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were trying to maintain an aura of good will and love for the Democratic party - and not bicker over race or gender. Which meant that Clinton, Obama and John Edwards were pretty boring in their happy, friendly paces. The NY Times noticed that even Tim Russert, one of the moderators, "seemed subdued" in a night of "'John' and 'Barack' and 'Hillary,' soft voices, easy jokes and belly laughs."
Still, Clinton did say that remarks from BET founder Robert Johnson (who had referred to Obama's drug use) were inappropriate. Politico's Roger Simon noted that a few sharp elbows were thrown, though not with the question about what their greatest weaknesses were.
Obama said: “I ask my staff members not to hand me paper until two seconds before I need it because I will lose it. And my desk and my office don’t look good.”More on the debates at MSNBC.Edwards said: “I sometimes have a very powerful emotional response to pain that I see around me.”
Clinton said: “I get impatient. I get, you know, really frustrated when people don’t seem to understand that we can do so much more to help each other.”
And Mitt Romney won his first primary in Michigan, allowing the Post to finally break out the "The Mormon the Merrier" headline. (Clinton also won the Democratic primary in Michigan, but the other candidates weren't really concerned with it.) Former mayor Rudy Giuliani placed 6th, after Romney, John McCain, Mike Huckabee, Ron Paul AND Fred Thompson. Giuliani may not have been hoping for Michigan, but that doesn't seem too good, does it?
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Everything is going as planned for Giuliani with no clear Republican front runner as of yet. He should take Florida easily on 1/29 and momentum should build for him heading to 2/5.
Go Rudy!
Rudy doesn't stand a chance. There's no way he could ever get the support of midwestern bible thumpers. Especially dressed in drag. Whose vote will he get?
Miked1116,
The Bible thumpers are in the South.
Dinkens and Sharpton in 2008!
EastRiver,
Drive through central Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Indiana and you'll think otherwise. I grew up in Ohio and each time I return, it becomes clear to me how "southern" states like Ohio are becoming (step into a WalMart and you'll see what I mean). Regardless, Rudy wouldn't get Republican votes in the midwest OR the south.
Wake up folks, The bible thumpers are throughout this country! Everywhere! Even NYC!
It's going to be McCain anyway.
I've done the drive you're suggesting and I still don't think Ohio and Pennsylvania remotely resemble Alabama or Georgia. As for Wal-mart, I don't see the relevance. I've seen Wal-marts in Massachusetts, Connecticut, and New Hampshire too. The only commonality is the shoppers are mostly lower and lower-middle class.
Maybe we're not connecting on what a bible-thumper is. The church parking lots in my hometown in Connecticut are full every Sunday but I'm not sure I would lump the people in as bible-thumpers.
Look, Iowa doesn't resemble Alabama or Georgia but they voted for Huckabee. Utah will too! And Montana and Wyoming etc. It ain't just the south!
And Mitt Romney won his first primary in Michigan.
Technically, that's true. He also won the Wyoming Republican Caucus, though, so it's not his first win, as every report seems to be framing it. In fact, he's currently leading in the number of delegates by quite a lot, IIRC.
Also, Reality Czech has a point re: bible-thumpers. They are, indeed, everywhere. While the South may still be the highest concentration, the Midwest and Southwest (esp. Texas) are always increasing their numbers, and the Northeast is far from immune. There are some Dominionists who advocate moving to places like NYC so that they can convert everyone.