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Okay, now that Hillary Clinton's emotional answer (video here) to one female NH voter's question about how she manages it all has made the front page of most newspapers, do you think it was a campaign ploy to gain more sympathy or an honest reaction that might backfire? Or a combination of both?
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Ed Muskie
I think it is baldfaced sexism suggesting women are 'too emotional' to be President. (No, I'm a guy)
Come on, people. It was not a planted question - people get frazzled, even celebs. This whole "she made it up for the press" is a load of BS. Here's a woman who can sense her dreams slipping away...don't tell me any of you wouldn't be vulnerable to the same emotional slip if it was happening to you. Just take a look at any of a number of players for runner-up teams in close World Series or Super Bowls...these are grown men bawling their eyes out in front of national television. It happens.
I agree with samarks. Sounds to me like they're implying it's a man's race she can't handle. Bullshit.
Oh Hillary, when you turn on the tears I can never stay mad at you for your silly votes supporting the war. Let's try to make it work! If Obama was a gentleman he'd have the decency to drop out of the race - Hillary's entitled!
Showing emotion is a double edged sword, especially for a female candidate. If she doesn't show emotion, she is an automaton. If she does, she is too weak to be President. This episode will likely backfire.
JRod, I agree with you, but even saying the episode will "backfire" implies it was a planned thing. And I really think that's baloney. Mr. Del Signore: If entitlement means working her ass off and getting shit done over a remarkable career, then she *should* have the benefit of the doubt. I for one would rather have someone in there who knows what she's doing rather than someone who'd have to start essentially from scratch. Either way, though, can we drop the sarcasm? It's so unnecessary.
I'm surprised and frankly offended that so many people are questioning her motives. Are we really that jaded?
How could "an honest reaction" backfire? An honest reaction would have no intent.
who really cares?!!! Can she lead, what are her positions? I guess is shouldn't be but i am amazed this is front page above the fold news. The media in this country is an absolute joke. They are out of the game of giving actual news, sadly. They jump from one bandwagon to the next, coronating anyone that will make a good news story at the time. enough of this BS. I think she was legitimately opening up, but I really dont see how that has any relevance to my life or the country.
I don't get it - she doesn't even really choke up or anything. There's not much there...I'm calling bullshit. ("This just in - Hillary's emotions at Level Orange" pfeh.)
I actually think her reaction was genuine. However, regardless of whether it was an honest reaction, this can only hurt her candidacy. If any of the male candidates exhibited such emotion, it would likely help them. Bill Clinton himself is an example of emotion helping to sway votes in your favor. Double standards still rule the day folks.
and .... scene.
nice acting hil.
she miscalculated & it's going to backfire. of course her reaction was calculated. we're talking about hillary rodham clinton: "i'm no tammy wynette, stand by your man woman" unless it means i can become president by betraying my feminist sensibilities.
remember her efforts to laugh more: clicky
I'm not a Hillary fan, but I don't think it was planned or that there was any motive behind it; nor do I think too much should be read into it.
I think her emotions simply caught up with her when she least expected it--because she had much higher expectations for how this race would be going...
I don't see it swaying voters one way or the other. The people who were going to vote for her still will, and those who weren't going to vote for her still won't.
Hey, at least she does a better job of it than Giuliani. Her laughs are strategically placed, whereas Giuliani just laughs inappropriately like a schizophrenic...
Trust me, I've spent my whole entire adult life working in PR - it was scripted. There's no question of it at all. Nothing any of the leading candidates do is spontaneous or genuine, it's all planned out for maximum media effect in response to poll numbers and campaign strategies. The campaign folks and the media people are buddy buddy, no questions. The journalists want the stories, and the PR people control the access, so they script everything.
Remember the 'Old Crazy John McCain'? He seemed like a decent, honest guy who shot from the hip (I don't care much for his politics, but I always admired the way he spoke to people and gave statements)? Compare that to the sanitized John McCain we have now. He says almost nothing, yet words are leaving his mouth. Why? He decided to get serious about running for president and hired a big time publicist who scripts his every word, screens everything for potential disasters and maximum impact according to poll numbers. Sad but true, true, true.
Addendum: You think it's a coincidence she's on the cover of every paper around today, when she is at a make or break point in her campaign? Placement, placement placement...
As much as I'm not enthused by Hillary seeking the nomination (because I don't think it's healthy for a country to have basically two last names running the damn thing over the course of 20+ years), I think all this flim flam about 'emotional' and shit like that really is just sexist crapola.
I mean really now, the state of discourse presented by the media is just shameful.
Hey emilydickinson - are you saying that the Howard Dean "scream," which ultimately led to his quick exit from the race last time around, was also scripted?
the dean scream was due to the media using a feed of his mic while excluding the deafening noise of his supporters. this was a calculated meeting with voters after she was handed her ass by obama.
"Showing emotion is a double edged sword, especially for a female candidate. If she doesn't show emotion, she is an automaton. If she does, she is too weak to be President."
nailed it. sadly this is all too true when it comes to women in positions of leadership and responsibility.
Did anyone read the Steinem opinion piece in today's Times?
Yeah, I read it online last night. I thought it was a refreshing view.
@maiaw: I would say the scream was planned, but as Mr. Zodak succinctly pointed out, it was removed from its' original context. Once it was taken out of context, the various PR people from the opposing sides picthes the story to the media that Dean was 'unstable' and a 'crazy man', which every news outlet then picked up.
Think about it this way, if Dean had better strategists and PR folks, they could have spun the scream so that that Dean was 'genuinely excited', a 'breath of fresh air in a stale world of politics', a 'real man of feeling', ad infinitum.
It comes down to who has the bigger guns (more reporters in their pockets), which is why, (very sadly) fundraising has become the be all end all of running for office in the US. We don't work cheap.
The crying act came right from Hitler's Mein Kamph, Chapter 6 War Propaganda.
Quote, The most modest its intellectual ballest, the more exclusively it takes into consideration, the EMOTIONS of the masses, the more effective it will be. And this is the best proof of the soundness or unsoundness of a propaganda campaign, and not success in pleasing a few scholars or young aesthetes.
The art of propaganda lies in understanding the EMOTIONAL ideas of the great masses and finding, through a psychologically correct form, the way to the attention and thense to the HEART of the broad masses.
Barry Goldwater in 1964's slogan was "In my heart, I know I know i am right.
That woman who they used for the setup,to ask the question to Hillary, should be given a lie detector's test, and I am going to push for that!