More Picture Taking Confusion by Police

i'm willing to bet this woman gave attitude first, then the cops got in her face. i have seen this method a lot... be cordial and you will usually get the same.

Dave - Thanks for the info on Hausman -perhaps its named for Charles Hausmann from Rego Park -

Some more info, apparently it was originally Wasington or George washington street but was renamed somepoint in the century cause that name was used for a number of different streets.

Not to back up the police on all matters, but if someone called in a "suspicious-person" call, the folks who caught the call are obligated to respond & give a disposition. They come by, someone taking pictures, OK, have a nice day, call unfounded, closed call.

Alternate scenario, susp-pers call, blown off, order of protection violated, kid kidnapped or spouse killed. They get a call, they gotta go. You can't have it both ways.

Dadoc

"She wasn't detained, detained means handcuffed and put in a squad car."

No, detained means detained. Stopped from continuing unabated on your way, so that police can talk to you. In this case, it was what is known as a "limited investigation," allowable legally under the guidelines established in Terry v. Ohio. In a "Terry Stop" anyone can be detained briefly if there's a "reasonable suspiction" that they could be involved in commission of a crime. That is, it's a lower barrier than an arrest, which involves not "reasonable suspicion" but "probable cause."

She was detained and questioned, then released.

87porshce. Thank you!

(sorry i forgot to close my link folks.)

don't let the man get you down.

I am not lover of the NYPD at all but this is blown way out of proportion.

This is most likely how it really went down...

An old Polish lady was startled when she saw someone out her window pointing a camera her way (right before she flies out for the holidays) she is concerned so she calls the police.

The police respond, and ask her what she is doing. Which is their job. She wasn't detained, detained means handcuffed and put in a squad car. She was asked some questions, and then instead of shutting up (which you should always do around cops) she asked the cop's questions that they didn't have to answer.

Why be so alarmist, there is genuine NYPD corruption to report on, not this.

I felt more like I was in the D.P.R.K. than the good ol’ U.S. of A.

In North Korea they would have taken you off the street, tortured you, sent you to a re-education camp, and possibly killed your family. Stop it.

Pik -

I carry a copy of this around:

The Photographer's Bill of Rights

Drawn up by an attorney and carried by almost everyone else I know who takes public photos on a regular basis.

Hope that helps!

does anyone have a link to a comprehensive list of rules of conduct for personal photography in NYC. I found the MTA website list here, but that won't help me on the street. i should probably start carrying something around in my camera bag. thank you. :)

A quick jab to the Adam's Apple followed by an eye gouge usually seems to put the pigs in their place.

This should work:

Civilian Complaint Review Board

There was a Charles Hausmann, who was a 1920s real estate developer who established Rego Park as a neighborhood. (Rego Park is an adaptation of the Real Good Construction Company that Hausmann owned with Henry Schloh). I can't find any connection between that development project in Queens, however, and the Greenpoint neighborhood in Brooklyn.

There was an urban planner named Haussmann, who worked for Napoleon Bonaparte and reorganized Paris into the City of Light by creating broad avenues and more open streets. Haussmann was a pioneer of urban planning, so it's possible that street namers bastardized his name in tribute, but in a more Americanized spelling. On short order, that's the best I could come up with. You've piqued my curiosity though.

a big thanks to anyone who can tell me who Hausman street is named after...seriously I've always been curious

Hey Toby von Meistersinger, your link is broken

Needless to say, I won't be delivering a basket of x-mas cookies to the 94th Precinct this year.

Flip them a couple of bucks and tell them to buy some coffee and doughnuts, keep the change and stop bothering you.

Sue their ass, you cunt.

"calm down, they only asked some questions, jeez."

Hey, I'd fully expect to be stopped and questioned and asked for my papers, and to have to explain what my purpose was in having walked several blocks from my home... if not for the fact that I live in the USA.

So, do these cops' boss know that they are so bored, that there's either no crime in the area or that these supercops have solved all the crimes, locked up all the bad guys, even tied up all the rabid dogs, so they have nothing better to do than harass people?

I think I'd call thier precinct, talk to their boss, and tell him or her, that there's these two very bored cops here...I'm sure you can think of something for them to do.

These idiots ever hear of that pesky thing called a Bill of Rights?

You do know about the Civilian Complaint Review Board?

You will change your tune once you:

1. are detained for 10-15 minutes for doing NOTHING

2. queried by snotty, condescending police officer who seems to think he's the neighborhood hall monitor

3. have your identification shown to a bunch of undercover cops who pulled up in an unmarked police car

4. only to have them all drive (or as you like to put it "fuck") off before you can get their badge numbers.

If you think for one minute they won't do the same thing to you (or WORSE) you are fooling yourself. I hope you don't have to learn this the hard way.

calm down, they only asked some questions, jeez.

Cops can ask me whatever they want as long as they f*** off soon after.