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<title>mikki</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:23:06 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I use a private cleaning service for my home. 3 girls clean it bi-weekly. My question is that the &quot;owner&quot; who does not actually clean at all is Mormon. Do I still tip her for the holiday ( seeing that she doesn&apos;t observe it?) The other 3 --Im planning on tipping---but what about her?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>josegarcia</title>
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<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 03:09:48 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;try giving them two bucks for a red stripe and watch how fast you no longer have to wave anything in the air for 10 minutes. when combined with a modicum of civility, works like a charm every time. you&apos;ll get a drink just as soon as a pretty girl. and remember, there is nothing sweeter in the world than someone brining you something to eat or drink. pay and say thanks, it&apos;s way simple.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>jibbly</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 10:07:30 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;The appropriate tip for a bartender is two bucks, otherwise stay home and have a bud?  Yeah because popping open a bottle of red stripe or pulling a tap for half a second after you&apos;ve been waving a $20 bill in the air for ten minutes as they ignore you for someone else is worth the extra dough.

Bartenders deserve at least $5 tip for a well made complicated mixed drink.  Beer, rum &amp; coke, vodka tonic, simple tasks that they barely pay any attention to gets them a buck.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>josegarcia</title>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:08:22 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;let&apos;s face it (and trust me on this i know everything) if you can&apos;t afford or don&apos;t want to tip 20% to your waiter, you shouldn&apos;t eat out. even if the service isn&apos;t up to par, the tip is 20%. if on the other hand the waiter is actively rude or surly, stiff them and speak with the manager. you can&apos;t have it both ways.nor can they. oh, and by the way, the appropriate tip for a bartender is two bucks. count e&apos;m (two). otherwise stay home and have a bud and a tv dinner. (disclaimer: i have never worked in a restaurant or bar but do frequent them with a certain regularity.)

on the subject of lousy supers however, what should one do? mine is the laziest guy in the world. of course i will tip him but jesus christ it bugs me!

happy holidays all. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>freddyhere</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 23:03:33 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&apos;t get me wrong - I think excellent service deserves a reward, however it should not be obligatory as &quot;propriety&quot; seems to dictate. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>freddyhere</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:55:37 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;What exactly is the point of tipping? Is it because we as a society see doormen and food workers as inferior and low-paid servants - and we should feel sorry for them and thus compensate them accordingly?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Rocknrope</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:16:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;How much should I tip my crappy superintendent?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Spear_Chucker</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:34:33 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;In some countries, Japan is one from my experience, you don&apos;t tip and the service provider doesn&apos;t expect it or accept it. They are paid a decent wage and you get good service and the food price isnt jacked up.

And don&apos;t certain people here don&apos;t believe in tipping all together?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Toby von Meistersinger</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:04:09 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Isn&apos;t it is illegal to tip Sanitation Department employees?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Rfive</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:03:00 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;In some countries, Japan is one from my experience,  you don&apos;t tip and the service provider doesn&apos;t expect it or accept it. They are paid a decent wage and you get good service and the food price isnt jacked up. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TKaisen</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:17:10 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;if a couple of bucks is going to make or break your wallet, you shouldn&apos;t be eating out anyway.

I can&apos;t imagine why people wouldn&apos;t want to just line up to give you their money for you doing your job.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Loopus</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:16:05 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Why is the onus always on the customer to make up for the restaurant owner being a fkcn tight ass when it comes to paying the staff? Yeah, please tip 20% yada yada...I&apos;m already paying top dollar to your employer who couldn;t give a fck about you hence your low wages in the first place...service should be made a standard surcharge of 15% across the board in all restaurants...then its out the hands of the customer and back on the employer to figure out how to reward staff appropriately...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>lombardicus</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:59:38 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I&apos;m not talking about a smaller tip for &quot;bad service&quot; but rather bad service.  I&apos;ve worked in the service industry too.  It can be a really stressful, annoying, unrewarding job, especially in New York, and I recognize that.  I don&apos;t give less than 20% if someone is trying their best but it&apos;s just a rough, busy night.  But damned if I can&apos;t tell the difference between someone trying their best and someone who doesn&apos;t give a crap about their job.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>JacqueMehoff</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:49:08 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;also Illegal. remember when some burger flippers put some foreign stuff on a cop&apos;s food?
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>JacqueMehoff</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:45:15 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;oh, I forgot about spitting in your food posts.
damn, that was quick.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>dev</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:40:27 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;my degree is neither sandscrit, the properly spelled sanscrit, nor ethnic studies.

nor do i currently work as a waiter. but i&apos;ve been there. and i understand, still, that waiters tip out a minimum of 5% to bussers and bartenders and are taxed on a minimum of 8% of their total sales (if their credit card tips aren&apos;t already more than 8% of their sales).

the difference in 15% and 20% is typically only a couple bucks. $6 vs $8 for a $40 tab. why not give it to them. it won&apos;t kill you. you probably won&apos;t even notice it. but your server will.

if a couple of bucks is going to make or break your wallet, you shouldn&apos;t be eating out anyway.

but yes, for you whiners about bad service, if you must decrease the tip for &quot;bad service,&quot; do it. enforce your minimal power. you&apos;ll feel better.

except when that drop of visine in your drink kicks in.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>JacqueMehoff</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:37:05 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect Tipping is one the most heated debates on  
 internet forums. this subject brings almost everyone out.
and, there&apos;s always a guy who brings up Mr. Pink.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>HughGass</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:30:46 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Anybody who mandates that everybody pay minimum of 20% tip to their waitress has made a bad career choice.    When did 15% become 20%? Oh yeah ... when you realized you couldn&apos;t get a job with a sandscrit or an ethnic studies degree.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>dev</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:28:59 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;how do you tip the trash collectors?

stand outside at 11:30 at night when they&apos;re picking up and give it to them personally.


then kick &apos;em in the back of the face for making so much noise late at night.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>anzelina</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:23:43 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;And how does one tip the trash collectors in New York? No one&apos;s home when they come around and if I tape an envelope to the fire hydrant, something tells me it won&apos;t make it to the intended recipients.&quot;

My question also.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>emilydickinson</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:23:20 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;@Grifforama: I would do something like buy them a bottle, just to show you aren&apos;t stingy and create goodwill hoping you get what they promised in the future.

I have habitually tipped the UPS/FedEx folks who come to my office my entire life, and I think it&apos;s worth it at work without a doubt. They are decent folks, and more than once they have done me favors beyond the call of normal duty. They deserve a tip.  I won&apos;t tip my UPS/FedEx people at my apartment because I just have everything sent to my office because I&apos;m never home to sign for anything.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>emilydickinson</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:22:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;@Grifforama: I would do something like buy them a bottle, just to show you aren&apos;t stingy and create goodwill hoping you get what they promised in the future.

I have habitually tipped the UPS/FedEx folks who come to my office my entire life, and I think it&apos;s worth it at work without a doubt. They are decent folks, and more than once they have done me favors beyond the call of normal duty. They deserve a tip.  I won&apos;t tip my UPS/FedEx people at my apartment because I just have everything sent to my office because I&apos;m never home to sign for anything.

Don&apos;t forget to tip your publicist! We accept cash, gold, booze, cigarretes and drugs.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>edEx</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:10:39 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;art directors require a $20-$40 tip on holidays.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>lombardicus</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:07:40 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;What if I&apos;m your server and your service sucks?  You&apos;re still supposed to tip me 20%?  I&apos;m not suggesting anybody be stingy, but shouldn&apos;t I still have to earn what I get?  They&apos;re tips, not entitlements.  

And how does one tip the trash collectors in New York?  No one&apos;s home when they come around and if I tape an envelope to the fire hydrant, something tells me it won&apos;t make it to the intended recipients.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>lower manhattan</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:03:31 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;10-20 bucks for newspaper delivery must be in exurbia. In a highrise with 300 units that would be $1-2000 for one building!

Ignore all of these figures -- they come from the industries. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>John Del Signore</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:58:37 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Metrodad: According to Kiplinger:

&quot;The U.S. Postal Service forbids cash gifts. If you want to reward a mail carrier who really hasn&apos;t been deterred by snow, rain, heat or gloom of night, a book of Starbucks coupons or a box of chocolates worth $20 or less would be okay. FedEx directs its couriers not to accept cash tips but permits tokens of appreciation worth $25 or less. UPS has no formal policy on tipping; its drivers may accept a tip or a holiday gift.&quot;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>navinjohnson</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:55:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;By the way, any cheap ass mofo who doesn&apos;t tip 20% (holidays or not) to his waiter has clearly never worked in the restaurant industry before.&quot;

true – i never worked in the restaurant industry. bfd. but what does that have to do with me making up for the fact that the industry doesn&apos;t pay their staff well?

i never worked in the airline industry either, but i don&apos;t tip my pilot when i land.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>MetroDad</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:56 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Shit, I just realized that my holiday tips are going to be more than the amount I was planning on spending for gifts to my friends and family. I love this city but damn things get expensive real quick!

By the way, any cheap ass mofo who doesn&apos;t tip 20% (holidays or not) to his waiter has clearly never worked in the restaurant industry before. 

Also, is one required to tip the UPS and FedEx guys? My wife says no. I say yes. Anyone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:44 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Shit, I just realized that my holiday tips are going to be more than the amount I was planning on spending for gifts to my friends and family. I love this city but damn things get expensive real quick!

By the way, any cheap ass mofo who doesn&apos;t tip 20% (holidays or not) to his waiter has clearly never worked in the restaurant industry before. 

Also, is one required to tip the UPS and FedEx guys? My wife says no. I say yes. Anyone?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:40:44 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;i think you should piss on the floor of the lobby, griff.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>grifforama</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:38:44 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, here&apos;s the thing.
We moved into our new apartment complex November 1st. (think LIC EastCoast)
No amenities even after promising them to us when we moved in.
Only there 1/6 of the year.
How much, if anything, should we tip ?

I&apos;m erring on the side of fuck all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:30:10 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;don&apos;t tip waiters more than 15%? what the fuck?

ALWAYS tip your waiters 20%.

and tip them in cash whenever possible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:29:50 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;don&apos;t tip waiters more than 15%? what the fuck?

ALWAYS tip your waiters 20%.

and tip them in cash whenever possible.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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