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The story around the possible hate crime attack on a Q train the other night seems to be made for the season. Not only does it come while subway violence is a big topic, it also involves a group of Jewish subway riders being called "dirty Jews" and "Jew bitches" and attacked by people who cried, "Happy Hanukkah, that's when the Jews killed Jesus." And here's the kicker: The only person who stepped in to stop the beating was a Muslim rider! One of the victims, Walter Adler, said, "A random Muslim guy jumped in and helped a Jewish guy on Hanukkah - that's a miracle."
Adler and his girlfriend, Maria Parsheva, students at Hunter and Baruch respectively, had been celebrating Hanukkah with friends Angelica Krischanovich and Nick Rosenbaum. They spoke to the Daily News:
On the train, they said [Joseph] Jirovec, [Kimberly] Babajko and their friends loudly yelled "Merry Christmas" - and became infuriated when Krischanvich responded, "Happy Chanukah."Adler pulled the emergency brake and the police arrested six people for assault and four for unlawful assembly. Adler praised Hassan Askari, a Berkley College student who also works at an East Village restaurant, for trying to help stop the attack. Adler, who sports a black eye and cuts, said, "He's basically a hero. Hassan jumped in to help us....I'm bleeding all over the place, there's lots of people, they're fighting with Hassan still, and I'm like, why isn't anyone else doing anything?""[One woman said,] 'You can't say that, we are Catholic,'" said Krischanvich, a Hunter College student who is not Jewish. "That's when two guys stood up and showed us their Jesus tattoos," she said. "They started yelling at us and telling us we have no savior."
"I started to yell back when one of them spat in my face," Krischanvich said. "I didn't let it bother me, and I told him, 'Jesus turned the other cheek,' and that is when the fight started."
The incident is being investigated as a hate crime, but Jirovec, the son of a city firefighter fighting in Iraq, says the fight was not a hate crime, claiming two of his friends are Jewish.
Still, the Daily News found Facebook and Myspace photos showing Jirovec and Babajko appearing to "revel in recklessness" and "making a mockery of violence."
Jirovec did plead guilty to "attempted robbery in the third degree as a hate crime" for beating and robbing a black teen in Brooklyn last year. Jirovec told the Post, "I'm trying to stay out of trouble. When I get out, I want to go into the military."
The Post has video of Adler discussing the attack. And Askari is modest about what he did, saying he got involved because the attackers were targeting the women, too. Askari, who also has a black eye, who said he was grabbed and beaten, puzzled, "I don't understand" why the others were attacked. "They were just being nice."
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the military will be a perfect place for jirovec when he gets out of jail!!
man, Atticus Finch couldn't have wished for a clearer object lesson - I'm looking forward to hearing from a Whole Bunch of regular posters on this one.
I love how one of the attackers responded to Hanukkah greetings with "Hannukah? That's when the Jews killed Jesus!" Back to CCD for you genius. I think it's generally accepted that Good Friday/Easter is the consensus on the event of the crucifixion/resurrection.
I think the military would be a terrible place for this idiot. Our military needs intelligent, constructive people to deal with their (our) problems, not criminal bigots.
He should be sold into sexual slavery to the Taliban.
Let all religions kill themselves off.
Then we can start fresh.
I think the military would be a terrible place for this idiot. Our military needs intelligent, constructive people to deal with their (our) problems, not criminal bigots.
He should be sold into sexual slavery to the Taliban.
looks like a fun bunch of guys just getting in a tussle. what a bunch of animals. why couldnt the gun "accidentally" discharge in the photo.
Kudos to Adler, it takes quite a brave one to jump into a gauntlet of 10 people to help out the victims.
And not to be stereotypical but judging from the photos of the attackers (with their gun toting thug pose)and the victimsalong with the quote
"the father of someone in the attacking group who was not charged said one of the victims "had shouted obscenities about Jesus, and one of them pulled a knife"
We can pretty much assume the father is quite the liar.
Oh and can someone please cut off the tattoo on this guy's arm, he's an embarrassment.
Kudos to Askari. We need more people like him around.
I really hope the US Military rejects that idiot but these days, they aren't that picky.
Sorry guys for the quadruple posts.
Nothing says "tough guy" more than some staged photo of two douchebags holding a woman at gunpoint. Lame.
wow, that guy jumped in against 10 of those muscle-bound thugs? he really is brave. i can't believe those losers targeted those cute jewish girls too.
I have to admit that's one sleazy jewish guy - is that an oxymoron? Anyway, from the sound and looks of that kid I would say he deserved a even rougher beating....
fighting over religion is soooo in right now.
I feel weird about how you make this become a sensacionalistic story.
Why don´t you go all the way and write "Muslim Helped Jewish Victims Fight off Catholics"?.
mmm.
I prefer to think instead that this story is not about religions, its about normal people helping each other against a bunch of violent ignorants.
too bad none of the guns in those pics went off.
Well if they are so 'Christian', or at least 'Catholic' then they would know that the Church officially repealed its' writ with a Papal Bull declaring that the jews DID NOT kill Jesus. That's the party line at least according the Catholics.
Ignorant, violent Christians? How suprising, that's something you don't hear about every day. The cops should also track down that G-19 he's holding in the photo, I'm sure it isn't registered.
Brings Bill Hicks to mind:
Redneck: "Hey buddy! We're Christians and we don't like what you were saying about Jesus!"
Hicks: "Then forgive me."
so are those guys polish? ya...
Holiday cheer and alcohol, bad mix in the last car of a subway.
One group yelling Happy chanukah and the other yelling Merry christmas.
Wow, what a bunch.
It's worth noting that you SHOULDN'T pull the emergency brake unless the train's already in the station. The brake is really for when people are being dragged. Hit the intercom button on newer trains or yell for help at the next station.
In fact, the latest trains won't even stop if they are between stations and the brake is pulled, they will simply be disabled at the next station.
My favorite part is where the Jewish guy who got saved pipes up with, "Holy crap, a towelhead actually helped some of God's chosen people. I mean, that shit is, like, a miracle. I didn't know they could even use words."
So much for gratitude.
*"A random Muslim guy jumped in and helped a Jewish guy on Hanukkah - that's a miracle."*
Or perhaps a human helped another human. Is that so far fetched?
santacon sure wasn't like that.... dreydals, hannakuh harry, a menorah perhaps, a "hasid" or two, jewish santas(?), and even a few jesuses (who was a jew, dammit!) were all there mixed with lotsa santas. cool!
-totally lapsed (screwed?) roman catholic and a german one at that... oy vey!
santacon sure wasn't like that.... dreydals, hannakuh harry, a menorah perhaps, a "hasid" or two, jewish santas(?), and even a few jesuses (who was a jew, dammit!) were all there mixed with lotsa santas. cool!
-totally lapsed (screwed?) roman catholic and a german one at that... oy vey!
(may post more than once......)
@nonumentalart
They're probably Serbian neo-nazis. Apparently they're in vogue these days in Serbia.
@edEx
In this city, yes it is far fetched.
The problem isn't religion. The problem is people. If we could just get rid of all of them, the planet would be a great place to live. Wait... D'oh!
Religion dumbs down everyone.
We're supposed to be astonished that a "muslim" guy helped a "jewish" guy? GMFB! It even happens occassionally in Jerusalem. Religion is not a genetic feature. Didn't we get over that after Hitler?
Listening to the latest repub crap in Iowa, you would never know the constitution separates church and state. God god god god god god god. Phew. What a bore. Padering to the "christian voters". Politicians should set the bar above religion. Not the other way around.
I love the irony of Christians making ridiculous comments about the Jews killing Jesus. Isn't Jesus's crucifixion THE ENTIRE BASIS FOR THEIR RELIGION?
The irony is they would so kick Jesus's ass if they ever him on the subway or attempt to i should say since he was a Jew.
wow, i was totally stuck on this train friday night. if i had known why these fucking idiots got arrested, i would have totally kicked them in the nuts as they got dragged by me by the cops. i thought they were just a bunch of drunk goombas.
New York, New York, it's a hell of a town
Geez, cute little jewish girls won't even let me look at them, much less beat them up. What's these guys' dating secret? Write the book in Rikers, feed me some lines.