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City Councilman Simcha Felder's proposed legislation to fine people $1,000 for feeding pigeons has struck a nerve. Felder and other elected officials claim that pigeons' poop is harmful to New Yorkers and, therefore, various ways to limit pigeons' eating and procreating should be explored. But some pigeon lovers are unhappy with the level of vitriol directed at the city's unofficial bird. Hence the video from Animaniacs, "Goodfeathers" (it's 10 minutes, so settle in to watch!).

Members of the New York Bird Club and Pigeon People, as well as other pigeon-supporting groups, met last week to discuss how to fight City Hall. The NY Times noted that one NY Bird Club member made the point, "A pigeon has never attacked a person. A rat has." And what about pigeons' importance in helping the U.S. Army during World War I?

2007_11_pigtj.jpgWhen City Council Speaker Christine Quinn referred to pigeons as "flying rats," the Post reported that Urban Wildlife Coalition founder Johana Clearfield sent Quinn a letter calling her "clueless...pigeons have nothing in common with rats." And Clearfield also wrote that saying "flying rats" was an "epithet... much like the n-word." Also, the Department of Health doesn't consider pigeons a public health nuisance.

Still, many groups, like PETA, the ASPCA, and Humane Society, support birth control and/or curbs on pigeon feeding. Maybe they can ask Tracy Morgan to film PSA's as Tracy Jordan, who on 30 Rock told a pigeon, "Pigeon, you should stop eating other people's old french fries. Have some self-respect! Don't you know you can fly?"

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  • urban wildlife coalition

    The Following is an excerpt from the author of an upcoming book on the history of civilizations, public space and includes an examination of pigeons as a social element. As follows:



    Councilman Felder wants to ban pigeon feeding and

    appoint a “Pigeon Czar.” A Pigeon Czar? It seems,

    though, as if he has channeled the collective psyche

    of New York politicians. Mayor Bloomberg commented,

    “I think that while … I love birds we do have a lot of

    pigeons and they do tend to foul a lot of our areas

    and people would be better off not feeding the

    pigeons.” And councilwoman Quinn added, “I have no

    love of pigeons at all. I find them to be flying

    rats.” Subsequently, Quinn remarked, “I will not let

    my personal pigeon position impact my professional

    pigeon position.” This implies that at some later

    date she will come to a purely “objective” decision

    about the legislation after a careful review of the

    facts. Pardon my skepticism.



    Ever since the phrase “rats with wings” entered the

    public lexicon—introduced, by the way, by NYC Parks

    Commissioner Thomas P. Hoving in 1966 but catapulted

    into pop culture by its utterance in Woody Allen’s

    1981 movie “Stardust Memories”—pigeon loathing has

    taken on a life of its own. No doubt, pigeons can

    create problems. But before we criminalize pigeon

    feeding we should understand the roots of concern.



    The disease argument is simply not convincing.

    Felder’s report admits that that the city’s own health

    agencies do not see pigeons as a threat for

    transmitting diseases to humans; what it does not cite

    is the fact that many other birds such as sparrows,

    starlings, and even parrots carry many of the same

    diseases, and that dog feces left behind by careless

    guardians can host a variety of similar pathogens.

    This has not stopped those in the past from distorting

    the facts to meet their political ends. For example,

    in 1963 a New York City health official ascribed two

    deaths from cryptococcal meningitis to exposure to

    pigeons. No matter that it was not known if either

    victim was in close proximity to large numbers of

    pigeons, or that an Italian medical expert refuted the

    claims in the Times and said “pigeons are no more

    dangerous to health than any other house-hold pet:”

    the health official recommended exterminating all of

    the city’s pigeons and outlawing feeding. At that

    time, feeding pigeons in the park was a common

    pastime. Some parks even had feeding stations.



    This medical discourse had a profound spatial and

    legal impact on the pigeon. Feeding pigeons became

    outlawed in some parks or could result in a citation

    if deemed a health “nuisance” by officials, not just

    in New York but also in a growing number of cities.

    When institutions such as the Parks Department

    officially designated pigeons as “nuisances” or

    “pests” based on epidemiological claims, this

    classification enabled their removal and

    extermination. Pigeons became a major moneymaker for

    the pest control industry after they became a

    recognized pest. Such designations, as labels affixed

    to these birds, reinforce that the appearance of

    pigeons in human space will often be experienced with

    disgust or anxiety. Because they are nonnative

    species, the Audubon Society has no interest in

    protecting pigeons. Their status as “rats with wings”

    became naturalized, rendering them culturally

    worthless.



    The tail is now wagging the dog. While many of the

    alleged connections between pigeons and disease have

    been debunked, the legacy is inscribed in a cultural

    intolerance for the presence of these birds and their

    feces in spaces designated for human use. In other

    words, our perception of pigeons as “rats with wings”

    is acting as a stereotype. We seek out information

    that reinforces our perceptions while putting on

    blinders. For example, much has been made of the need

    to control pigeons in case the bird flu pandemic

    reaches America. Yet medical experts make clear that

    pigeons are highly resistant to H5N1, and that ducks

    are the animals most likely to pass a deadly strain on

    to humans.



    While many people enjoy feeding ducks in parks, those

    who still enjoy feeding pigeons often become

    stigmatized as “crazy.” Before we make them criminals,

    perhaps we should critically examine some of our

    commonsense assumptions. One person’s rat is another’s

    dove.





  • urban wildlife coalition

    the following text is an excerpt from the author of an upcoming book on the sociology of urban relationships and (as part of his study) human relationships with each other and with pigeons. As follows:



    Councilman Felder wants to ban pigeon feeding and

    appoint a “Pigeon Czar.” A Pigeon Czar? It seems,

    though, as if he has channeled the collective psyche

    of New York politicians. Mayor Bloomberg commented,

    “I think that while … I love birds we do have a lot of

    pigeons and they do tend to foul a lot of our areas

    and people would be better off not feeding the

    pigeons.” And councilwoman Quinn added, “I have no

    love of pigeons at all. I find them to be flying

    rats.” Subsequently, Quinn remarked, “I will not let

    my personal pigeon position impact my professional

    pigeon position.” This implies that at some later

    date she will come to a purely “objective” decision

    about the legislation after a careful review of the

    facts. Pardon my skepticism.



    Ever since the phrase “rats with wings” entered the

    public lexicon—introduced, by the way, by NYC Parks

    Commissioner Thomas P. Hoving in 1966 but catapulted

    into pop culture by its utterance in Woody Allen’s

    1981 movie “Stardust Memories”—pigeon loathing has

    taken on a life of its own. No doubt, pigeons can

    create problems. But before we criminalize pigeon

    feeding we should understand the roots of concern.



    The disease argument is simply not convincing.

    Felder’s report admits that that the city’s own health

    agencies do not see pigeons as a threat for

    transmitting diseases to humans; what it does not cite

    is the fact that many other birds such as sparrows,

    starlings, and even parrots carry many of the same

    diseases, and that dog feces left behind by careless

    guardians can host a variety of similar pathogens.

    This has not stopped those in the past from distorting

    the facts to meet their political ends. For example,

    in 1963 a New York City health official ascribed two

    deaths from cryptococcal meningitis to exposure to

    pigeons. No matter that it was not known if either

    victim was in close proximity to large numbers of

    pigeons, or that an Italian medical expert refuted the

    claims in the Times and said “pigeons are no more

    dangerous to health than any other house-hold pet:”

    the health official recommended exterminating all of

    the city’s pigeons and outlawing feeding. At that

    time, feeding pigeons in the park was a common

    pastime. Some parks even had feeding stations.



    This medical discourse had a profound spatial and

    legal impact on the pigeon. Feeding pigeons became

    outlawed in some parks or could result in a citation

    if deemed a health “nuisance” by officials, not just

    in New York but also in a growing number of cities.

    When institutions such as the Parks Department

    officially designated pigeons as “nuisances” or

    “pests” based on epidemiological claims, this

    classification enabled their removal and

    extermination. Pigeons became a major moneymaker for

    the pest control industry after they became a

    recognized pest. Such designations, as labels affixed

    to these birds, reinforce that the appearance of

    pigeons in human space will often be experienced with

    disgust or anxiety. Because they are nonnative

    species, the Audubon Society has no interest in

    protecting pigeons. Their status as “rats with wings”

    became naturalized, rendering them culturally

    worthless.



    The tail is now wagging the dog. While many of the

    alleged connections between pigeons and disease have

    been debunked, the legacy is inscribed in a cultural

    intolerance for the presence of these birds and their

    feces in spaces designated for human use. In other

    words, our perception of pigeons as “rats with wings”

    is acting as a stereotype. We seek out information

    that reinforces our perceptions while putting on

    blinders. For example, much has been made of the need

    to control pigeons in case the bird flu pandemic

    reaches America. Yet medical experts make clear that

    pigeons are highly resistant to H5N1, and that ducks

    are the animals most likely to pass a deadly strain on

    to humans.



    While many people enjoy feeding ducks in parks, those

    who still enjoy feeding pigeons often become

    stigmatized as “crazy.” Before we make them criminals,

    perhaps we should critically examine some of our

    commonsense assumptions. One person’s rat is another’s

    dove.





  • c00n

    I hear pigeons coo. Can't you?

  • RoDogg

    Wow, c00n actual knows what pigeons think. So it must take a pigeon with a small brain to comment on what pigeons with small brains talk about. So you actual sit down and have conversations with pigeons? So what do pigeons call themselves, since you talk to them and they told you they don't call themselves "flying rats", please inform us. STFU then seek intelligence.

  • JRod5417

    30 Rock rules!

  • c00n

    One other difference between "flying rats" and the N-word is that pigeons don't call each other "flying rats".

  • McGG

    Quinn is a tool

  • mrechs

    Even more on this inane topic: Our friends blogged on Gothamist's previous post on this story, and the crazy pigeon people showed up and made an amazing spectacle of themselves:



    http://pissyrabbits.wordpress.com/2007/11/13/276/

  • JKinNYC

    Of course the difference between "flying rats" and the N-word is that with the N-word, it is used for FUCKING PEOPLE not for huge population of dirty poopy birds. Rats are also very smart animals, and can be trained to help humans, but would anyone scream if we fined people $1000 for feeding them?



    If these birds would starve without people feeding them, then they are overpopulated. People are not a natural food source in the ecosystem.

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