Police Release Second 911 Call in Coppin Shooting

EDP is not slang for an emotionally disturbed person, it is an abbreviation for the retards.

"He does not, hmmm, Who says he does not have a firearm?"

I am so mad at this bitch.

Once again I find myself responding to the ignorant posts of a few insignificant morons who find pleasure in attempting to prove the police's innocence. So let's begin addressing, post by post:

Snoopy: gee, you have so much to say via internet about a youth who you know absolutely nothing about. I'll have you know that my brother was top of his class throughout high school. He was full with potential. Hmm, I'm curios to know what diseases you have cured lately. Oh and from your post it is evident that you are looking for a beating, let's just hope that doesn't come to you as well.

c00n: ehh. I see we meet again. You my friend are a waste of a being. The reason that my mother and brother do not have the same last name is because my brother is from my mother's first marriage from when she was living in the caribbean. When she came to the United States she remarried. I don't see why the fact of the differing last names appeals to you, but I guess such a low life as your self has nothing better to do but make insignificant observations. And yes my brother knows who his father is. And if you were even more curious he is flying all the way from Trinidad to be here. And uhm I don't know where you're from but in the educated society that I live in the proper sentence structure is not "who the father be", but "who the father is" and when placed in such a sentence the structure then becomes "who his father is". P.S. My brother's last name is COPPIN, not CHOPPIN. If you feel such a need to comment on the issue be sure you know the victim's name. Thanks.

bklynd: Another friend that I meet again. Be mad at my mother all you want, your anger does not effect neither my family or the case. The fact still remains that once the police arrived at my house my mother informed them twice that my brother was unarmed. Yet another thing that the Police Commissioner Ray Kelly/media has yet to bring up.

uhm lets see,

Baby got no daddy, because thats how a normal family is: SEPARATED, and then not being enough, go to another dog and start popping out more children you cant take care of. and then, #2

call the police when you cant take care of your kids, and then expect them not to come with guns.

If the mother couldn't handle the kid she should've just whipped his ass, not call the police.

education makes no difference. a psychopath in college is still a psychopath.

Al Sharpton should jump off a bridge, without a parachute.

Well, it is certainly interesting to hear from the sister of the victim. Just so you know, I'm not defending the police 100% - it would certainly be nice if they could deal with a disturbed person without shooting him (see my previous reference to the Gideon Busch case.)

However, I don't think you are capable at this point of viewing the event the way the cops understood it and the way the public understands it. The record shows that with the first 911 (in which your brother claimed he had a gun and your mother did nothing to deny it) they understood it to be a hostage situation. That's how they reported the call and that's why such a huge team showed up. That's pretty simple.

What happened when the cops showed up is awful murky - the press has a lot of random details but it is unclear who saw what. (I don't understand, for example, how they know he stuck some other object under his shirt, or when he claimed he was "ready to die"), but it seems to me that it should have been obvious what he was intending to do.

I think as time goes on you may understand this tragic event a little differently. And, of course, I'm sorry that it happened.

why do white people love to fight?
BRAAAAAVEHEARTTTTTT!

When it comes down to it, the only fact that matters is that they fired TWENTY shots. If they fired a shot or two, no one would raise an eyebrow, but 5 cops, with twenty shots fired? It crosses the line of self defense. People need to be held accountable for there actions. Maybe the victim wasn't 100% innocent, but those cops, they need to learn how to judge a situation. Actually, they shouldn't have a chance to judge another situation, they should be let go, at least.

20 shots is a lot? from 5 police officers? really? that's 4 shots a person. in a tense situation, when you need to neutralize a threat, i don't think firing 4 times is a lot, by any means.

its never a series of isolated incidents...its this constant battle between police and minority groups...our society makes me sick.

The level of racist hatred here is appalling. Some of you are the most unenlightened, bitter, jealous fools I have ever had the misfortune and displeasure to read from. One ignoramous who was printed in the AMNY Letters section today even had the temerity to suggest that all black men carry guns and that is why he was shoot, because of a preconception by police that he must have been armed. I can not believe I am a member of the same species as some of you. Such vituperations and disgust for fellow human beings is so representative of Nazi thinking that I woud suggest none of you who express such obloguy ever be allowed out into the light of day. If you care to, you can read my real views about this latest police debacle.

Another perspective on police shootings of unarmed citizens.

There is so much knee-jerk reaction to this most recent police shooting of yet another unarmed citizen. It is obvious that the protocols for handling this type of occurrence are inept and faulty on premise. It seems that the first priority is to kill rather than disarm or deescalate. That basic reality serves to further the notion that life other than self is valueless and self is, foremost, what matters even if your job is to serve and PROTECT. That includes protecting us from ourselves. Mental illness is a distinct characteristic of humans and the human condition. In a fit of rage, this young man goaded the police into doing exactly what it did, shoot to kill. What does that say about the police process and its leaders? It says loud and clear, we come first. Sure, the police commanded the kid to stop. But in his state of mind, a condition the NYPD should be expert at confronting, could not follow commands. Other less lethal measures should have been immediately at hand rather than the excuse that the special response units were getting set up when the events unfolded. Another process/protocol error. One might wish to consider, on another level, that this disturbed individual is a result of our very society. But that is another issue for discussion.

I believe the core mind-set of the NYPD needs to be one of avoiding weapons discharge till the very last possible moment to protect both the life of the officer AND the subject of concern. All this crap I have read about your not being a cop, you don't know what it is like to face this danger, is just that, crap. ALL of us become afraid for our lives at sometime during our existence. Fight or flight is high-school knowledge. Instincts for survival should be mediated if you are going to be in law enforcement. The cop mentality should be to understand this better than most people and act accordingly. Fear of death is and should not be the primary motivation for discharging a weapon. Of course, it is easy in hindsight to quarterback this recent scenario. But look at some of the details. Five cops discharged weapons from multiple points of convergence. All were shielded by automobiles. The subject was some 5-6 feet distant in evening but reasonable street lighting. Police accepted this setting as one of direct and imminent threat to themselves. Could all five have felt threatened so as to shot to kill when they were all at different position from the subject? It is unreasonable to believe that all five needed to discharge their weapons. Were they acting to preserve their own lives or the lives of their co-workers?

I am not anti-cop. I respect the position they place themselves in frequently. But it is still a career of choice and everyone of them knows full well the dangers of pursuing this line of work. And cops are not heros just because they became cops. If you go into police work believing this, you should never have been accepted in training. The police can consider themselves heros if they successfully avoided deadly force and resolved this peacefully. They did not. It seems the actions are a direct result of the police mind-set, a general societal acceptance of and condoning of violence and a lack of enlightened leadership in the NYPD which continues to perpetrate said concepts.

I further suggest that as a society steeped in violent imagery, an antiquated cowboy mentality and strike first preemptive thinking, our police forces merely reflect these societal attitudes. I guess a kindler, gentler America is a concept still too far removed from our nature.