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- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez is committing millions of dollars to residents of the South Bronx, pleasing some, rankling others, and infuriating the Mayor of Caracas, which is Venezuela's desperately poor capital.
- Marilyn Kaytor, who wrote a book about the club "21" in 1975, died in an apartment fire yesterday morning.
- Cops are searching for a mugger who's been targeting young woman around Columbia University late at night. He usually assaults his victim and then makes off with their cash, iPods, and cellphones.
- Tavin Alves was buried yesterday in East New York. The 16-year-old was killed when he looked out his bedroom window after he heard arguing in the street and was struck in the face by a bullet fired wildly into the air.
- Bensonhurst, Brooklyn is no longer the Italian-American enclave it was 20 years ago. Today it is one of the most ethnically diverse neighborhoods in the city
- If one is going to bring one's child to a bar, it's probably best to set a good example for the tot by not throwing your drink in a stranger's face.
- It's now located on 33rd St. between Lexington and 3rd Aves., but the relocated 2nd Ave. Deli should be open for business in the next month.
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That photo looks like the inside of Grand Central in 50 years after the robot wars kill everyone...
i hope it's next week.
Or after the zombie plague decimates the city.
I feel like that would make a wonderful concert space.
Trader Joe's is great, but this feels like such a waste of good architecture!
Kids in bars are just inappropiate, if you need to go to a bar that badly, get a damn babysitter.
Parents today don't want to admit that they can't behave like single people anymore, thus they insist on dragging their progeny to movies, restaurants, and shopping expeditions that last way too long for most little kids. Do those kids look like they are having a good time? Nooo, they don't. The rest of us have to endure the meltdowns and crying, sometimes even during an R-rated movie.
Parents, admit defeat. At least for about the next eighteen years. Your focus and energy should not be on Yourself, but on Your Kids.
Tgirl, what are you talking about? I agree with you in most part (especially for rated R movies), but when I was a kid in the 70s it wasn't unusual to accompany your parents to a local neighborhood bar, especially if they served food. Ususually everyone knew each other, and it wasn't a problem.
I don't want to generally have to worry about tripping over kids or cussing in front of them while out drinking, but again if it's understood by everyone that parents might be there with kids until a certain time, I have no problem with this as long as I have a heads up. "Admitting defeat" as you so eloquently put it is why there are so many bad parents in the first place. Maybe if we don't give them shit for being human and wanting to go out with the kid sometimes, they won't repsond with stroller rage.
Tgirl:
I totally agree -- I try to avoid baby bars (Union Hall, Abilene) during the hours I expect people's progeny to be awake but you'll still catch parents out with kids really late into the evening.
Isn't that a little bit like... I don't know... child abuse?
Mike D... well, yes, and no.
I can remember when I was four my mom and my brother and I meeting my dad at the local bar on payday, he would be there with his buds and then we'd go in the back and have dinner. But the best was when I got to sit on the barstool and have a Coke (we usually didn't have sodas at home) and all his friends would say hello.
Yes, my childhood was a Pete Hamill novel, but I digress...
A friend of mine runs a bar in Brooklyn and I've occasionally gone in with my daughter just to say "hi." And she loves it. But it's usually in the afternoon or early evening, not when it would be packed.
And I guess the big thing, which the article aluded to, is if you're gonna do that, don't get smashed, don't misbehave, don't stay at the bar that long no matter what time.
I have been in bars (mostly upstate, though I know this happens here, too) when kids are running around on the floor at late hours when the grown-ups are in their cups and it is truly, truly creepy.
Like most things, time and a place for everything. It's more about parental bad judgement than kids in bars.
Oh, the thug has only been targeting a single woman around Columbia? Ah, nothing to worry about then.
I was the girl who has the drink thrown in my face. I was not saying this parent was bad. I was making an observation about how parenting has changed. Sometimes it's appropriate and sometimes not to bring children into bars, but the parents also need to be able to address the issues that may come up. For example; what does f*ck mean mommy? Living in Park Slope for 7 years I have seen things change with the over population of parents. I feel for most parents intuition has been thrown out the window, parents are doing "what they read" is good parenting for this children. I have witnessed so many children running the show. What was wrong with the parenting of the 70s? Parents were parents and kids were kids and kids did what parents said because THEY SAID SO. Why are children being left to make grown up decisions? I turned out fine and my parents never entertained 20 minute debate on “why we need to leave”. We just left because my parents said it was time to go. We are going to have some f*ed up adults in the next generation. In response to all the other issues of Park Slope Parents, it appears some parents just lose their minds and are unaware how inconsiderate they sometimes are to others. I wish they would check themselves more often.