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It's the umpteenth story about an engagement gone sour and hardly the first one that has the would-be groom demanding the pricey engagement ring back. But it's the first that we can recall where the ex-fiancee is the granddaughter of a Gambino crime family head!
Dean Kuehnen and Andria Castellano got engaged in December of 2006. Kuehnen gave her a 3.23 carat emerald-cut ring with 160 additional diamonds in the platinum setting. But then they broke up, and Kuehnen really wants the ring, or the $38,800 it's valued at, back, as he filed a lawsuit against Castellano in Manhattan Supreme Court.
The Post calls Kuehnen either "very brave or very dumb" because Castellano's maternal grandfather, Paul Castellano, was the head of a the Gambino crime family until he was "gunned down outside the Sparks Steak House in Midtown in 1985, paving the way for John Gotti to seize control of the Gambino family."
Etiquette experts generally believe that if the woman breaks the engagement, she should return the ring, and if the man breaks it off, he shouldn't expect it back. However, a New York Law School professor told the Daily News, "As long as it was given as a true engagement gift, he has a very good chance of getting it back." Interesting - and that's probably why some people recommend that women should ask for an engagement ring on a holiday or their birthday, so it's more than an engagement gift, and why men are advised to give the ring on a day that's not special!
Of course, this case is not as cut and dry as the one of a woman who got to keep her engagement ring after she dumped a guy who was still "pursuing other relationships" online - and he was still married, too.
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and that's probably why some people recommend that women should ask for an engagement ring on a holiday or their birthday, so it's more than an engagement gift, and why men are advised to give the ring on a day that's not special!
It's sad how shallowly formal, trivialized, and materialistic love has become. And people are worried about gays marrying.
I am for the guy in these cases. It does not pan out, cut your losses and give it back. Mafia princess or not, it is a sleazy & classless move not to give it back. Just goes to show yet again that money can not buy class.
Hey, I'm going through the same thing. How come I wasn't in the paper? :)
Probably because this guy spent 3x as much as I did. And his fiancee is mobbed up.
isn't the girl supposed to cry, take the ring off, and throw it at his face? i thought that's how it worked. he should get it back.
Regardless of when the engagement ring was given or who broken off it off the person who gave the engagement ring should get it back. A person who keeps it in my eyes is a gold digger looking to make money off it because why else would you still want it?
It is simply a demonstration of extremely poor taste to keep an engagement ring, no matter who broke off the engagement. Any woman who thinks they "deserve" to keep it, is a total ass. The only exception would be, possibly, if the fiance died before the wedding - but then why keep such a morbid reminder? Move on, I say!
I find the following quote in this (poorly written) article offensive:
"The Post calls Kuehnen either "very brave or very dumb" because Castellano's maternal grandfather, Paul Castellano, was the head of a the Gambino crime family..."
Should anyone connected to a crime family get away with whatever the fuck they want? Hell, no! Anything happens to Kuehnen, he's not the stupid one.
Wow. All comments so far completely sensible. I see the new "no guests" policy is working.
Yeah, I think it's sleazy to keep the ring and it's sleazy for a society to put so much value in the price of it. If she loved him she'd accept a plastic ring (y'know, if it looked cool and all).
That she would even consider keeping the ring is a sign that he's better off without her.
On the other hand:
Maybe there were other promises broken on his part that came to light during the engagement that gave her some feeling of deep betrayal. That said, maybe its never right to keep the ring (especially to the tune of $38,800). But what price do you put on betrayal either way? Do we know the whole story?
I don't have a problem with the woman keeping the ring in the last example, the one where the guy was still married. (Unless she knew, and he was in the process of getting a divorce, etc.)
is it a blood diamond?
I agree with all of the other comments - give the ring back to him.
STRAIGHT TALK
No time to delay,
No time to linger;
Just tell the chick:
The ring or your finger.
They're all blood diamonds.