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The hilarity never ends when talking about cell phone service in the subways. The City Council spoke to the MTA about the agency's upcoming cell phone service plans, and apparently some members suggested that there should be "quiet cars" on the subway. We cannot stop laughing!
City Councilman Oliver Koppell suggested that quiet cars would be a haven from the chattering masses who would use cell phones in the cars. (Let's not forget that the plan for wire subway stations is only for stations, not tunnels - whereas aboveground cell service has been around, since, well, whenever cell service was first offered.) Per the Daily News, Koppell said, "You may say, 'People won't listen.' But there's a tendency for self-policing in that system. So, if you have a quiet car ... and someone gets on and starts talking on the cell phone, other passengers will say, 'This is a quiet car, please turn off the cell phone.' Generally, that works."
Koppell definitely has an optimistic view of the average subway rider. We're not sure that people like listening to even gentle suggestions from other straphangers. If you can't convince people to stop yammering when they're just talking to each other - or give up their seats to a pregnant woman/senior citizen/parent with baby - how will quiet car policing work?
Anyway, the MTA doesn't think it will add cell phone service to tunnels, fearing customer reaction. And City Councilman John Liu, head of the Transportation Committee said, "a subway train is not really the place you go for a lot of peace and quiet tranquility. There's plenty of noise on the subway already." Also, how will one find a quiet car, when you can't travel between the train cars. So many questions!
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I'm pretty sure that if I politely ask someone to stop using their cellphone in a quiet car, I will be politely stabbed in the face. Such a stupid idea.
will there be a car where you can sit and have Gothamist recite press releases for shitty vodka?
the City Council wastes our time and money with these horseshit ideas. QUIET CAR?!?! sure, since I can tell the begging homeless man to stop asking for money and moms with 5 loud kids to tell them to be quiet, I am sure this will work. How about the City Council spend some time.. oh.. I dunno.. fixing our schools?!?
Wow, John Liu finally makes sense for a change.
lol.
again, let's just look to japan / tokyo for the most efficient system. they've been doing this for years!
They have quiet cars on Amtrak's Acela, and it works very well. There is no way in hell that would work on the subway. I'm guessing whoever came up with this idea has never taken the subway in their life!
Cell phone jammers in specified cars. End of story.
New Yorkers are not the same as Japanese. They use chopsticks.
You know, most people expect A MAN to give up his seat to a pregnant woman/senior citizen/parent with baby, but they should expect the same from a WOMAN!
And anyways, if that pregnant woman/senior citizen/parent with baby is going to work then they should be subject to the same ordeal as anyone else.
No one told you to get pregnant or have a child and if you did because you WANTED to then deal with it and don't expect anything or take off a few months while prgnant or don't bring your brat to work with you.
As for senior citizen's, if they gave up their job to a younger person who needed it, maybe people would give up their seat to them?
And if that pregnant woman/senior citizen/parent with baby is forced to work because their job or their monetary situation dictates that they do so, then that's a statement about the sorry state of affairs of this country.
Reality Czech: you represent a vast majority of what I hate about this country. Remember common human decency? Maybe one should give up their seat to a pregnant woman/senior citizen/etc because it's a nice thing to do. Simple as that. You're an asshole.
#1 and #3 - 100% agree with you.
#6, pay attention to #9. The Japanese are for the most part a homogenuous society. They know what the societal norms are regarding proper conduct in the subways, while walking down the street, standing in line in an orderly fashion, etc.
Do you really think that the average person in New York is going to think "Oh, that's right, I'm in the quiet car, I'd better not call up Lindsey on the phone right now, and conduct a banal conversion about how many guys she hooked up with last night at the bars!"
Get real - In a city with the dregs of every culture on the planet, thrown into the subways, you really think Japanese standards of behavior will magically appear? Remember, this is the USA, the country where Jamie Foxx and Whoopi Goldberg defend dog killer Michael Vick by saying in effect "It's part of his culture, he didn't get the memo that dog killing is wrong."
To John Liu: The subway car is also not a place I go to witness defecation, urination, eating, drinking, panhandling, masturbating bums, etc. etc. But hey, that's just my "Eurocentric bias"!
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>>>apparently some members suggested that there should be "quiet cars" on the subway. We cannot stop laughing!
It's an excellent idea. My sanity has often been preserved traveling on Amtrak's quiet cars.
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Here's how people will combat cell phone talkers on the subway - ridicule their conversations! Pretend like you know the person on the other end, and say things like "I know! That was crazy!" or "Ask her if she found my toothbrush!"
Of course, you should only do it to people who are smaller than you.
Is the first car still for singles only...or is it the last?
quiet cars are common in asia. Then again we're savages here.
You ever notice how people are fairly quiet in the mornings on the subway? Self-policing actually works.
Here's another parallel. I'm pretty sure you aren't allowed to eat or drink on the subway. But that doesn't stop people from doing it. No one really cares about it. BUT you're also not allowed to smoke on the subway. Have you ever seen anyone smoking? Not me. People would get extremely pissed off at someone trying to do that.
I really dont think you'd get much cell phone conversations anyway, because the trains are so loud and noisy and itd be hard to hear. You'd just get lots of texting and stuff which doesn't really bother anyone else.