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After reading this, you may think twice about having a seat in Union Square. The website peeped some peeping toms in the area, visually depicted above (they added a "red carpet" to illustrate the "peeper zone"). They also tell us that a "peeper live zone" can contain up to two dozen pervs at one time and can extend up to 30 feet. We wonder what they do when summer skirt season comes to an end...migrate to the West Coast?
While it's unsettling to see exactly how many eyes can be on one person at one time, there's not much that can be done about it. Though if City Councilman Peter Vallone's proposed (and ridiculous) anti -voyeurism bill ever passed, these guys would be racking up some serious fines! That is, if they're really peeping...
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oh lord, help us. there is so much wrong with this, i don't even know where to begin.
those supposed "peepers" should sue the fuck out of Gothamist for calling them peepers. Sure, some of them are but what happens if an innocent bystander just walks there and happens to look in a certain direction. He'd be photographed and posted on GOTHAMIST and been guilty of been branded a peeper and ridiculed at his workplace and family and friends. THIS IS SHIT JOURNALISM.
how is this news? people are going to look at people. get over it, or move to the mountains. geez. (ps i'm a female. so shut it)
this site is a parody site gothamist. example of parody in comments :
Date: Oct 8, 2007 3:24 PM
Subject: Just so u know
Later that evening I saw the girl that was showing me her crouch looking at me stright in my eyes and smiling. Yes she came back to show some more and I spoke with her, she tool me back to her place you figer out the rest. So is peeping good? Is in public not through someone bedroom window if they show I will watch
Dean
Sent from iPhone
And you know what? I so believe you. I know you to tell truth! What reason would you lie? Peeping good. Girl love the Peepers. All Peepers go home with girl they peep and when girl see peeper peeping her crouch she fall in lovvvve and wants sexy GOOD times with Peeper!
The park need more Peepers to turn on the sexy ladies. You should be so proud to be in group of Peepers. They are all classy, sexy fellow that girls smile at. Thank you for forming groups of Peepers for me to picture-take. If they show I will watch!
Bob
What, we can't look at each other anymore?
Seriously, who cares? Eying girls is pretty natural. And yeah, if you're sitting with a skirt on and your legs spread, you might get some additional attention.
you know how many civil liberties are being broken by gothamist right now? It's not okay for the police to spy on it's citizens but it's okay for Gothamist too?
stupid = this story
LMFAO! pure comedic gold!
How about these stupid girls being more mindful about how they sit when they wear a short skirt?
oh, fer crying out loud, when sitting down in a public place like union square wearing a short skirt, plenty of women desire to be peeped. they can very well choose to sit properly or choose a different location if it is so obvious and *really* bothers them.
other than that, the more "strategic" peeping is just plain sas and those (mostly) guys could just be laughed out of their their posts.
i'm a perv cause you won't cover up your snatch?
"many eyes can be on one person at one time, there's not much that can be done about it."
That's cause it's a non-fucking issue.
does this douche skateboard bob have a job?
spinal tap called they want their hairstyle back.
whoops, i mean "sad."
this is simultaneously hilarious and disturbing. peeping is gross, but seriously, WHAT are these girls thinking, sitting on stairs in a skirt with their legs wide open. lower your legs, ladies! or cross them! jesus, common sense.
Anyone stupid enough to sit like that in a short skirt in a public place is just asking to be "peeped". If you put it out there for people to look at, guess what? They might look.
I can't believe this moronic "story" is even on Gothamist. The writer should be ashamed for wasting our time with this nonsense.
If I'm one of those guys, I'm on the phone with my lawyer and figuring out how best to sue Gothamist right now. Especially the guy by the trashcan on the viewer's right side who looks like he's actually looking in some other direction!!
This is disgusting, slanderous, and unnecessary.
there's this thing called fabric, pull it down to cover your slit if you don't want to be looked at.
better yet, be a lady.
Gee Vallone, wouldn't it be easier to just require the women to wear Burqas? What do you really think those guys can see from 75 feet away anyway? This is the most ridiculous story - way to go Gothamist, for giving this drivel some press.
steve austin probably couldn't see anything, how could those "peepers"?
As many have said, this is ridiculous. Of course nothing can be done if people look at you in public. You're in public & people are looking - what exactly should be done? While it might seem unsettling that people look at eye you, I doubt you'd get a fraction of the attention if you weren't sitting with your privates in easy view. Wear pants or sit properly. End of story.
for a guy like me (dirtbag) it hard not to peep. its instinct mostly. But, if you think about it girls underwear is not much different than some bathing suit bottoms.
erm....the "skirt" is staring at those so called peepers too. If they are not allowed to, then nor should she.
This is beyond horseshit
Chicks that wear skirts WANT guys to peep. Or at least to try to peep. Or they want guys to think about it. Why else would you wear a skirt when you can wear shorts, or pants if you are worried about this? Girls love it and only pretend they don't so they can love it in secret and not look like some kinda slut. Imagine if a girl said she actually liked when guys do this.
And don't tell me, 'I only wear skirts just because I like the way they look.' You like how they look because by wearing the skirt, you get guys' attention. Don't lie. And if you are a lesbian, you'll get other lesbians' attentions.
'Peeping is gross' lol. That's a funny one. Everyone does it, just some take it to different levels. You know NYC sells the most binoculars per capita or somethin like that. Don't tell me everyone is birdwatching or goin to broadway shows. Everyone wants to be peeped at by someone they like. And even if its someone they don't like, the very fact that they are worthy to be peeped on probably excites them even though they won't admit it.
oh nice new whited out faces. fer christ sake!
There's nothing wrong with staring at someone from a distance, in public, as long as you're not bothering them.
I have to stop wasting my time reading this moronic news blog that hardly ever features any news.
i think it's telescopes that nyc sells the most per capita.
i remember peeping into a building across from me when i got my first pr of binoculars. the guy pointed a rifle at me. now that i think back, i should of called the cops.
Queens was on lock down the other week when someone thought she saw a guy with a gun inside a home. it turned out to be a bb gun.
Right on, #26, re: wasting my time with Gothamist.
At least the hack editors at this dipshit blog have some semblance of legal acumen and whited out the faces (after seeing in the comments how they were a crotch-scratch away from a lawsuit).
COME ON!!! It's nice to see a little skin. Maybe the offended should wear Hazmat suits around the city.
This of course flies in the face of "If you see something, say something."
Guest #1 is absolutely correct that this is a defamation suit ready to happen.
As for guest #24, a lot of women wear skirts(especially to work) because most places of employment ban shorts as casual wear and rightly so. And, this is America, so you can wear skirts or pants or shorts if wish to. Also, for thousands of years, skirts and dresses were the only acceptable attire for women and the past 60 years or so does not change that.
Common sense must dictate here. If you don't want to be peeped, cross your legs or wear pants. Otherwise, STFU!
Enter the term "vajay-jayhawk."
as a female, i actually think this is kind of hilarious.
what? you mean if i wear a short skirt and flash my lack of undies to the park folks might notice??? no way! who knew?
sigh . . . people . . . stop being stupid. women, cover it up, sit appropriately, or deal with the fact that not everyone can avert their eyes every second. for everything you're showing, someone will look.
forget this silliness and focus on something that is an actual problem, like real pervs who rub up against unwilling women on a bus or subway. now THAT is WRONG.
jesus jen, seriously, go write about the new radiohead or something, k?
Ix-nay on eeping-pay my va-ja-jay.
I'm going to try this later today.
Thanks for the heads up Gothamist!
hey how a picture of what they were peeping? i wanna see also from the comfort of my home.
trashiest "news" i've ever seen on gothamist. sure, you got a bunch of hits but killed your integrity.
i don't get it. Her knees are together. What's the show??
Has anyone else noticed how they only seem to be targeting people of color?
Don't assume women need to be protected by your cutting-edge journalism.
Maybe some women WANT to be peeped. Maybe some women don't give a FUCK if they are being peeped.
Either way, it's not up to some biased, unscientific not affiliated with law enforcement website to make the call.
Gothamist - first in promoting paternalistic slander!
The best part is that if you use an RSS reader to keep up with gothamist you have two images in the article. The original posting didn't have the peepers faces boxed out. Good Work!
Hey all's fair...
The chick actually has her knees touching in the photo and her hands holding them together. I've peeped at plenty of girls on those steps in Union Square and wouldn't waste my time with her because their are other babes letting it all hang out. She's practically a prude.
why'd you white out the peepers faces? i wanted to find them to shoot them in the face.
are we to now apply the same gender neutral standards to our lives that we apply in the workplace? this means that dress codes and codes of conduct are sure to follow. i'm loving this new anodyne version of new york city. it looks just like cleveland but without the winning baseball team.
she's a plant by the guys on the website.
notice all their peeping plants are asian, probably Japanese. except for the one in the blue plaid skirt she looks chinese because the guy she's hugging looks Jewish. she looks like the jealous needy type.
notice how she grabs her arms around the bf? she's telling all the other girls, yeah, I got a BF.
That girl sitting on the steps letting everything be seen is just plain stupid.
SUPER RATS! that is the real name of the peeps, harassers!!!
The city could pay many things by ticketing Super Rats In Favor!
Is it peeping if the peepee puts their peepee out on purpose?
How are there so many comments on this?
i like peeps. especially during easter.
I'm glad to read there are still some great sensible girls in this City.
jen carlson hates our freedom.
jen carlson, why do you hate america?
Congratulations on finding a way to make this site suck.
Even more.
That girl should be arrested and deported for indecent exposure.
Moral crimes like that are a deportable offense, and can automatically cancel her green card or student visa.
in one of those pictures an old lady appears to be peeing also...innocent pedestrian walking by and looking the wrong direction? i dont think so! lock that granny up!
#55: deported? how do you know that girl isn't american? you can tell a person's nationality just by looking at a picture of the back of their head? you my friend, have a gift...either that or you are just a douchebag
she's not american, even the guy's site made fun of her speech along with some misspellings.
think the me luv u long time type speak. even thought they are probably japanese.
What a bullshit non-story. And Peter Vallone should try to think of something useful to do. Like get another job.
This whole story is a train wreck.
Shouldn't this post be called "awesome views on display on Union Square steps"?
The girls who sit on the steps tend to be pretty hot since most of the old women and fatties stick to the benches. That dude with his foot on the lamppost is jacking my spot! Wtf!
I like to walk around the city with my penis hanging out. I am horrified that someone might actually be looking at me. These people need to be fined. Blah blah blah.
If you don't like the story why are you even looking for stories here? All probono editors should do their own news site...I'm find many articles irrelevant TO ME. That does not make those stories irrelevant to others.
This is the second tier even. Imagine the peeps girls get on the first level closer to the street!
the whole thing is meant as satire, i'd imagine. a clue:
"...City Councilman Peter Vallone's proposed (and ridiculous) anti -voyeurism bill ever..."
Jen had me at "and ridiculous"
Not news.
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Gothamist, it's amazing that year after year you continue to suck.
Most of You guys are being little bitches about this aren't you? Boohoo, we should be able to stare at a lady's crotch without being caught on camera, boohoo.
Guess what, if you're standing in one place for 10 minutes glaring up a womens' skirt, you're a dirt bag. Do you have the right to be a dirt bag? sure, as much as a woman has a right to sit down on a step when she's wearing a skirt. But don't go whining about it when you get caught in the act, peeping up some lady's skirt in a PUBLIC SQUARE, and some jerk posts the pictures all over his website and calls you out.
Though I have to agree, as hilarious as the original webpage is, which all of 4 people commenting on this post must have actually visited, the commentary offered by the article's author doesn't do it any justice. "Hey, I'll post a link to a webpage and graffiti it with with an alarmist overtone and my own inane and obvious observations. Gold!"
why am i looking at a picture of a girl shooting lazerbeams out of her vagina?
To Nick S.:
Because you're into henti?
Vagina laser beams to kill super rats!
what is a public square? don't you mean pubic square.
you're in New York City now. take your hear ye, hear ye stuff someplace else.
What's wrong with you? Hmmm, why would I call it a public square, hmmm. It's a big, open, public place, and it's called "Union SQUARE." It doesn't take Stephen Hawking to put 2 and 2 together. Putz.
Its really amazing that gothamist would take a satire and report it as news. Are they really this incompentent? Jen, I suggest the next time you need to dig around for leads you try "The Onion". Lots of interesting stuff in that one.
You've got to be kidding me. Go look at the page yourself! normalbobsmith.com/amazingstrangers
It's not trying to outlaw peeping. It's not singling out people of color. It's not trying to give you the latest breaking news that affects the nation! Hell, it's not even trying to say that girls hate it.
It's a comedy page pointing a finger as a funny/creeping thing that happens at Union Square which seems to go unnoticed (or unmentioned) by the surrounding crowds. And believe me, those guys are indeed peeping up girls' skirts, standing there for the entire duration of her stay. I'm talking 20, 30, 40 minutes of leaning on the garbage can in a trance! My buddy and I sit there and watch this display take place with a train of four or five or eight guys all mesmerized by a pair of panties, and you don't see the humor in that?!?!
It's comedy people! Free, available comedy that turns the mirror on ourselves to show how we've evolved and the things that concern us most in our daily lives as we graze this planet amongst the stars! Jesus Christ! Loosen up! You're supposed to be New Yorkers, for Christ's sake!
"Sorry folks, but you can't outlaw looking at girls' skirts - That's illegal! Doesn't this have the slightest little ring of racism to it? People in public are allowed to do this!This isn't important news! You're gonna get sued! You can't sue people for looking up your skirt! This is a trash news story and I hate you for publishing it! You can't make girls not wear skirts in public. That's called Taliban!"
That's you people.
Instead of charging these "peepers" (when really, if someone is sitting with their junk out, it is our responsibility to look), these girls should be charged with indecent exposure.
Honestly, if a man was sitting is short with his wanker and chewed bubble gum hanging out he would be called the perv and charged as a flasher.
dirty old men
i you go to the site you will see they have a picture of a bunch of peepers in a nighttime shot.
i guess the peeper creeper photo thinks that they have night vision eyeballs . in another photo on the site, they circle alleged peepers , but leave out a woman looking in the same direction.
this peeper site could just be a set up for page hits. there could be something else everybody is looking at to the side of that girl with her leg closed.. there could be a woman sitting there with her legs open and pantie less for all we know or a cute puppy. Or a dog peeing on someones leg or taking a crap with the owner not picking it up. street performers could be in the background. this is so wrong. women know to put their bags between their legs, or cross their legs if they don't want people to look at Union square park steps.
now if the site got pictures of people with a hidden camera in bags doing photo up-skirt shots, that would be newsworthy .
this post really cheapened gothamist journalist credibility.
"It's comedy people!...Jesus Christ! Loosen up! You're supposed to be New Yorkers, for Christ's sake!"
Dude, are you 16? Your utopian, blinders-on view suggests someone who either cannot see or admit that there might be deeper issues of power, race, and gender to this story, and that's what's provoking the discussion.
I bet you're one of the same people who go, "Why can't I call black people the N word? Other black people say the N word? WHY CAN'T I???? BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH..."
Ignorant.
Guest 81 - Before you call someone ignorant, visit the page this originated and all of the other pages there that point out the hilarity that can be found at Union Square.
"...deeper issues of power, race and gender.."
Are you serious? And do you really consider this a discussion? I would bet 10 to 1 that you're religious. Only a deluded, alarmist, sensitive, fundie would find this even mildly offensive. Even women should find it hilarious that there are men who spends hours a day trying to see what is readily available at any beach or Victoria's Secret catalogue.
Just visit the page.
Fortune Cookie Say: "Man who hide in bush to peep at bush get into hairy situation"
Fortune Cookie Say: "Man who peep at girl vagina probably strong supporter of Bush"
Have these guys heard of online porn...?
Making fun of an ethnically diverse crowd of dirt bags staring at a womens crotch all day without describing and specific or general attributes relating to the individuals outside of their actions. Yep, racism defined.
Did you all know that maker of that website was contacted by some of these people in person an by email? They've been to his site, where he also posted a link to this article. How much do you want to bet a good chunk of the bitchy little responses to this article are the pervs who stand around all day in Union Square, staring up women's dresses? Responses like "some women might want to be peeped", and "taking pictures of perverts is racism", mostly by guest posters, have the ring of someone trying to defend pervertedness, and demonize women who don't think their style of dress should have to pander to dirt-bags. Hey, don't get me wrong, it's your right to be a dirt-bag, but don't piss and moan when someone calls you out.
I've worked around real racist assholes, telling ignorant racist jokes and bitching about Mexicans taking their jobs. I've also seen subtle racism, like a loss prevention employee circling around the only black guy in the store. But do you know what's worse than a racist? Someone exploiting their own disenfranchised race's struggle for equality and using it as a smokescreen to cover up the fact that they're a dirt bag. Not only are they exploiting the suffering of their brothers and sisters, they're making it worse by marginalizing the issue of racism so that stupid rich white folks, with their token black friend, don't believe that racism is as big of a problem as it really is, and don't see it until it's really fucking obvious.
hate to break to you big boi,
but some women do like to get peeped.
Sure, and some women want you to take a dump on their chest. That still makes you an asshole if you go around indiscriminately shitting on chicks taking naps on a beach. So guess what, dude probably posing as a sexually liberated female, it's still hilarious to take pictures of these shameless dirt-bags crouching from twenty feet a way to look up a women's skirt.
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