Subway Flood-Fighting Street Furniture

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There was a bit in the MTA's August 8 Storm Report which mentioned that the MTA was working on some street furniture designs to "raise vent heights to prevent water inflow." As part of the recommendation to "Implement corrective action plan for top flood-prone locations," the MTA, with the Department of Transportation and Department of Environmental Protection, is developing short- and long-term solutions at the most flooding-vulnerable locations.

Perhaps a more promising and intriguing solution to the sidewalk grating and station entrance water inflow problem is already being pursued in conjunction with NYCDOT. In fact, in the last week the MTA, NYCT, and NYCDOT have co-sponsored a design charette with top urban designers to develop solutions to the problem. The three conceptual designs they came up with will hopefully lead to a more refined alternative that will address both pedestrian impact and neighborhood aesthetics.
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Essentially, by doing things like creating a step in front of subway entrances so water won't trickle down stairs or raising street grating, can help prevent flooding. There are renderings of possible street grate designs from Antenna Design, Grimshaw Architects, and Rogers Marvel Architects, and the designs were developed for the Queens Boulevard F Line on Hillside Avenue, which suffered terrible flooding. According to the storm report, the "MTA has already begun to work with the city and the Art Commission, which reviews all such street fixtures" and expects to follow the "more formal review process to come up with a final product that works for all" in the next 30 days.

What do you think of these designs? Some more storm report facts: The MTA will be embarking on $30 million worth of short-term improvements; the four stations with the most severe flooding are the 79th Street station in Manhattan and Parsons Boulevard, 65th Street and 36th Street, all in Queens; and flooding occurred at 26 locations, with six instances lasting between 3-8 hours and four others lasting more than 8 hours. NYC Transit president Howard Roberts Jr still said, "We did fantastically well in our recovery."

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"Wanted: Kids with thumbs. Some dike experience required."

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These are some of the worst looking street furniture designs I have ever seen. The MTA should stay out of the furniture-design business. Please don't let the MTA install these crappy things.

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marvel design is nice


#2 please grace us with your design ideas...can't wait to see them!

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Wait...These designs just invite people to sit on the vents and fart into the subway stations.

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I'm not sure about the designs, but it seems like (if effective) this would be a whole lot less expensive than improving the pumping/drainage system.

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Seems like a good idea until you picture them covered in snow, giant brown ice blobs, all winter long. Yum.

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Not sure how a tree would live or a person could relax with a constant flow of ass-stenched steam blowing up from the vent that surrounds the structure, but other than that, decent idea.

This will just make jaywalking between crosswalks that much harder.

One of the great benefits of the vents we have now, is that slow moving fat people and women in heels avoid them. It's like an express lane for the rest of us.

If they raise the vents, then nobody can walk on them, which makes the sidewalk that much more narrow.

I'd like them to think of other places to put the vents, instead of the sidewalk.

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Agree with #9, this makes the already crowded sidewalks much, much worse!

And while this helps the MTA, won't this make the flooding on the streets much worse by taking away a drain? What's the city going to do to mitigate that?

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get rid of lanes of traffic to make room for the new vents

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Awesome! Yet another raised surface for annoying skateboarders to slowly destroy while creating a noise and safety nuisance.

#9. That's what I came in here to say. That's a lot of lost sidewalk walking space. The 3 fat Nebraskans walking arm and arm will stop pedestrians for blocks.

people must be hung over, everybody is a hater today.

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though raising grates is a good idea, shrinking sidewalk space is an awful one. is there any way to re-route the water to the sewers instead?

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Yep re-route the water to the sewers should work. The only problem is the sewers can't handle the water which is causing the backups. OOps.

#15 How long have you worked for the MTA before you were fired from the planning department of DEP?

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