When They Were Seventeen . . .

seventeen.jpgThe New York Times's City Section this past Sunday had a special focus on seventeen-year-old New Yorkers. According to the paper, more children were born in 1990 than at any point since the Baby Boom. Now they're on the cusp of adulthood and the Times has a series of oral histories that one can read or listen to online. It's an interesting project; here are a few of the teens:

  • Neil Allicock lives in East New York. Although he was born in the United States, he spent several years growing up in Guyana, where his parents are from. Sometimes he wishes he could live in an actual house, like the ones his relatives in Guyana inhabit, instead of a small Brooklyn apartment. Allicock says that his parents and family are a rock upon which he depends. Somewhat alienated from his environment, he is a young man determined to make something of himself, unlike many of his peers who he feels are content to be blown through life without a clear purpose.
  • Sarah Mohess of Jamaica, Queens was in and out of foster homes before she ran away to Philadelphia and enrolled herself in a school there, which is difficult to do without a legal guardian. "Who did it? Me, myself and I. I pretended to be my grandmother." Mohess is back in New York now, struggling to finish high school. Although she is part of an anti-gang youth initiative, she remembers her days in the Bloods fondly and speaks highly of organizations like gangs that provide social structure and mentoring to young people who may have few other opportunities for guidance. She speaks from experience.
  • Katherine Pak lives in Riverdale in the Bronx, but goes to school at Brearley on Manhattan's Upper East Side. As a financial aid student at the school, Pak initially found the disparity in family wealth between her and some of her classmates daunting. When she first started at Brearley, someone had to explain what a summer home was to her. Like many teenagers, however, Pak's primary worries are keeping her grades up and getting into a good college. Also, the absence of boys at the all-girls Brearley is a source of constant frustration. "We’re always talking about how we all want to have boyfriends, and how we have so much love to give but no one to give it to."
  • David Helene grew up in Cobble Hill, Brooklyn and is a "lifer" at Packer, the school he's attended since he was three years old. He's a cosmopolitan kid and describes himself--like all his friends--as liberal, but concedes that it's a mindset he came to by default and is intent on reading more newspapers when he's not studying, playing sports, or hanging out with his friends. Still, the farther Helene observes beyond Packer and Cobble Hill, the more extreme the world seems. The students at Berkeley Carroll in Park Slope are cocky and drink a lot more than Packer kids. "Culturewise, the Upper East Side, or the Brearleys of the world, those kids do a lot of drugs. They do drugs that kids from Packer, where I go, don’t touch. Like heroin." Helene appreciates the hip-hop culture and slang that his friends are into, but he is a man with limits. "They were like, 'That’s dumb stupid.' I’m like, 'That’s redundant.'"

Almost all of the 17-year-olds' stories make for interesting reading.

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Cue Winger song. . . now.

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Living in Riverdale is now slumming?
owning 2 cars is considered poor?

"They were like, 'That’s dumb stupid.' I’m like, 'That’s redundant.'"

How thoughtful and literal! But not enough to jettison that awful way of expressing, "I/he/she/it said..."

David Helene has raised the fury of many Berkeley Carroll and Brearley kids, with his accusations of heroin use and widespread drug and alcohol use. Although there may be some truth to his comments, he has apparently posted some sort of mea culpa on his MySpace or Facebook page, accusing the Times of quoting him out of context. In the meanwhile, I have confiscated all of my daughter's needles, syringes and tourniquets.

I thought it was a nice feature - reading about the Staten Island teen who spends hours trying on clothes to Allicock, who doesn't have lunch so he can save money.

I think Helene is fairly typical among young people (and older people) who have spent their entire lives in the same milieu. It's not important whether B-C kids actually drink more or Brearley students are doing H. It's that the farther those environments and people are from Helene's experiences, the more pejorative and extreme they seem. I think that's an almost universal human instinct.

With all due respect to Mr. Hogarty, it's really not such a profound sociological phenomenon. This is a city filled with private schools and each school has a reputation, usually undeserved and usually an exaggeration of some basic characteristic of the neighborhood in which it is located. Helene just stated the rep BC and Brearley have among his classmates. He learned an important lesson, however: the press, no matter how well-meaning, will use your remarks out of context if it serves to advance their thesis. So, the next time the Grey Lady asks a private school kid for their opinions about other kids, he or she should just say "no comment." This goes ten times for New York magazine, which has specialized in sensational stories using quotes out of context.

Hey Katherine Pak, look me up. I've got so much love to give too, and I'll give it all over you.

[7] I agree completely, except with the characterization of my observation as profound. It's actually a mundane phenomena. As you said, all schools have a reputation "usually undeserved and usually an exaggeration of some basic characteristic..." But, I would change "some basic characteristic" to "some outlying characteristic." Most societies seize on the most salient difference of another culture (e.g. French people eat frogs, Korean people eat dogs, Japanese people eat whales, to use cuisine as an example) and use it as a characteristic to serve as a differentiator. I was just trying to cut the kid some slack for saying something he was getting beat up over.

As to speaking to the press before one is 25, I wouldn't recommend it. I cringe at the thought of what I would have said to the Times when I was 17, even if quoted verbatim and in context. Earnestness and inexperience are a sure guarantee of future (or immediate) embarassment.

Wow...that Katherine Pak is some together young woman. Very impressed, notwithstanding Rocknrope's pedophilia, with her poise and articulateness.

Geez, it's called a joke. Isn't there some wine you need to be arrogantly pontificating about on CH?

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Holy shit, we're getting old.

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