1 Train Brawl Leaves Two Stabbed, One Caned

2007_09_subwaystab.jpgTwo groups of teenagers on an northbound 1 train got into a fight that ended up with two teen slashed. The fight started around the 59th Street/Columbus Circle stop or the 96th Street stop, and then it spilled out onto the platform at 110th Street/Cathedral Parkway. Two were slashed with a knife and another teen was beaten with a cane; all were treated at St. Luke's Roosevelt. A witness told WABC 7, "I was in my car and I heard screaming ... from downstairs ... bunch of boys ran out and then this other guy ran up."

The stop is a few blocks south of Columbia University and the area is usually very busy. SubwayBlogger was on a 1 train while police were investigating at 110th: "The place was crawling with NYPD and rescue." And Newsday reported one resident as saying, "This is a grassroots problem. Anybody who rides the rails knows that the kids are a real menace."

The 110th Street/Cathedral Parkway station is no stranger to violence. In July of last year, a man took two construction workers' saws and "sliced open" the chest of a 64-year-old postal worker. The attacker, Tareyton Williams, was sentenced to 18 years in prison; his victim, Michael Steinberg, forgave him but doesn't forgive the MTA for allowing this to happen.

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Yeah, I ride the 1 train, and have always assumed that all the trains are crowded with kids at that hour of the day. Is it just the 1?
I avoid the 1 at the kid-rush hour. They're awful to ride with. I wish they'd have more cops on the train during those hours, to keep them a little more orderly -- they tend to overcrowd the train, thinking it's funny to pack themselves in, screaming and laughing. Which isn't exactly a pleasure for people coming home from work tired and frazzled.

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My goodness, what to do with these rascally ghetto kids!

Ethel from the UWS

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ghetto trash

oh yeah lets continue to subsidize more of them living in manhattan

and dont forget reparations

they're entitled!

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i love black people

The racial tolerance shown on this thread fills me with optimism and joy.

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I thought it happened around 1pm?

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why not make a car on the train for the black and latino school kids to ride in? they do it for women in Mexico!

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hey! make it the last car!

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excellent idea #7
there should also be no a/c in that car
and it should never be cleaned

will make the kids feel like home

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That's fine when they're killing each other in their own neighborhood, but us humans are trying to go to work! Keep it off the train!

Every time I turn off "hide guest comments" I am reminded why I turned it on in the first place.

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What about the big fat loud mama with the baby stroller and six little ones in tow?

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Full reporting on Gothamist should include the date and time things like this happen. It's been driving me crazy lately that you guys keep leaving those things out. In case you didn't go to journalism school, please always answer the following questions:

Who
What
WHEN
Where
Why
How

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#5 Please accept my apologies, but most of this racist diatribe is coming from entitled hipsters from the Midwest like myself. We are just not used to living amongst colored people in such close quarters!

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BTW even though I am 28yo and make $18 grand a year working in a record store, I am still better, MUCH better than these ghetto trash I am forced to face each day in the subway.

I take the train with these kids several days a week for the past 2 years and I have never felt nervous around them. Actually, I often hear then talking about school, their classes and their families. Sure they are loud, and show the average adolescent rudeness they are no different than any other neighborhood high school student. Which is to say they are not saints but they are not homicidal "ghetto trash" like some other careless commenters put it.

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i see a lot of white guilt on this board, typing lies disguised as "racial tolerance"

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Most teenagers are loud and annoying no matter where they are - regardless of race or color.

And not all ghetto kids are violent. But, growing up in violent surrounding, where their peers are involved in crime - you can hardly blame them. Until our government starts taking care of American ghettos, things like this will keep happening.

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sorry nishanna, but ur full of sh!t
these kids are VERY different than other high school students....whites & asians simply do not behave that way. to say otherwise is nonsense

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Caned? Really?

How... Singaporean.

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how about that immature overweight frat boy who uses your pizza box for his drum solo as another poster mentioned a few days ago?
don't write checks your body can't cash.

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Most teenagers are loud and annoying no matter where they are - regardless of race or color.
True.
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#18 & #22:

asian teens and white teens are not nearly as loud and annoying as blacks and latinos

u know its true. u just dont have the balls to say it

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#23.

It's true that in this city, black and latino teenagers are more annoying on the subways. But, I think that part of that has to do with black and latino teenagers riding the subways more than white and asian teenagers.

But, leave this city and go to a more suburban area, and it's gonna be the white teenagers who you notice to be more annoying.

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taking the 7 train is usually filled with Asian kids, their behavior is not even close to the kids on the 1 train

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asian teens and white teens are just as loud.
case in point, senior year when everyone has their yearbook in hand. I've even seen this young orthodox jew couple acting all lovey dovey. I'm guessing it was an exclusive private school. them jews are smart and they'll become lawyers, after they visit their motherland first. and, they want to get cracking on having a dozen kids. tout de suit.

Wow, this whole "who's louder on the subways?, Asian and White kids or Black and Latino kids?" debate is just captivating. You guys should really write up a paper and submit your findings to the American Journal of Sociology, or Urban Affairs. Top notch stuff guests. Can't wait to read your final results and analysis.

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u know what's funny? when I see asian kids calling each other the "n" word.

#19, you really have no clue, do you. Think about the reason why adolescents behave obnoxiously. To be precise, why teens who need attention act the way they do. The issues they face do not know race. However, your comments are raciest and have no factual evidence.


Teens in groups are indeed loud and annoying. City teens more so. City teens from tough/poor neighborhoods are more intimidating, because of how tough they feel they need to appear, in order to survive in their neighborhoods without getting a beatdown every day for being soft. 99% of them are utterly harmless, and yes, it's tough to tell which ones are truly thugs when all are wearing protective coloring.

The poorest parts of modern american cities tend to be filled with blacks and latinos. 100 years ago it was italians or irish. 100 years from now it may be swedes, and we'll be reading about how violent those damned lutefisk-eaters are.

You want scary white teens? Visit any UK city, and ride public transport.

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STFU Nishanna. Niggas and spics DO act differently in public than chinks and whitey. Its a fact due to the way that they were brought up and their sense of space. No is one BETTER than the other, its just how they act in public is different. And since this is a city that clumps us all together, we get to sit and say, "Gee Yuki, those brown children sure are loud and like to use their knives on the trains alot.

But this is why I live in the city. To be able to see and appreciate the differences between people. If you don't see it, open your eyes. Its a reality.

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I can't wait till they give another beat down to a female yuppie jogger. this time finish the job, guys.

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All the kids have to do is go to school and be good. Maybe if they were forced to wear uniforms? Mandatory community service for graduation? Increased after school programs? The kids today need to be more involved with their schools and communities.

Guests 7,8,and 9, please don't bring your stereotyped branding of racism here.

Amen #30. I second everything he said.

Oh and the Economist ran an article a few weeks ago about (white) English teens and their threatening, sometimes violent public behavior...same shit, different toilet.

Oh I'll wager money that guests 3,7,8,9,10,12 are one person.

white kids are just as violent... who do you think is plotting high school massacres? sadly we live a soceity that allows this behavior. it shows true in the manner we punish people—while i truely believe in justice, i think our sentencing needs to be redrawn.

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not only are white male teens violent, they add in some homo shit into the mix. ie, they'll beat you up and shove an object up your butt. usually a mini baseball bat.
and for fun, they'll take pictures of you naked when you're drunk.

I think theres a single racist lurker writing ALL the racist crap on this and all the comments on other posts. Sad. Poor guy. Must be awful to carry that shit around all the time. Racism appears as simply ignorant but also shows a lack of analytical thinking, not to mention deep seated self hatred.

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slappy hates black people, but cant let people know that or else his image would be tarnished

can't gothamist block IP addresses?

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school uniforms would help

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very perceptive #35. I wrote comments 7 & 8. AND I'm black. Just throwin' a little something in the mix.

ADDED BONUS: I'm a school teacher!!

What else do I have to do on my day off. HAPPY Rosh Hashanah!!!

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I don't know about the rest of you- but after 8 -12hrs. of time consuming/ boring meetings, useless conf. calls, dealing with superior attitudes, backstabbing, being excessively mindful of your speech/ behavior/ dress/ ect.
It's refreshing to witness folks living with such reckless abandon (ah, the ignorance of youth). As long as it has nothing to do with violence (wich it usualy does'nt).

Here's a tip: Next time it starts to annoy you, join in! not only will they alow you to do so, you'll find it very freeing- even relaxing. Instead of becoming annoyed, convers and connect!
How did we become so old so fast.

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Oh, and #30 is right on point. Teenagers are teenagers (you were there once). Let us practice tolerance (you will wish others to when your elderly!). We all tolerate our bosses and/or authority! What? we only tolerate those who pay us and/or can benefit us in some way?

Why does this site have the guest comment feature? You don't see this kind of garbage on Gawker, e.g.
And if somebody gets out of line, they are just called out, quickly.

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Gothamist can and does block IP addresses.

But you have to make an anti-asian or anti-jewish comment for that to happen. Gothamist happily allows racist comments, unless they are directed at asians or jews, then the comments promptly get deleted. That IP address then gets blocked.

I wonder if anyone notices Gothamist's strange obsession with blacks and hispanics? I've calculated almost 60% of their articles are about blacks or hispanics, and usually not in a good light.

When it comes to Jen Chung, about 80% of her articles feature blacks or hispanics.

That's fine with me, but it makes you wonder what "Gothamist's" obsession is about.

I want more articles about bars, nightlife, and bands. I miss those.

Personally, I wonder if anyone's noticed Gothamist's strange obsession with NYC. I've calculated almost all of their posts since the early 1970's, and they seem to weigh very, very heavily in favor of New Yrk material. Im not saying that they're being paid by Jews or anything, but I'm not a racist; I mean, I think they hate blacks. Or hispanics. I think. Hmm. Just a second. I'm pretty sure Jen Chung is at least partly Asian-american, so that would make her a racist. Or an anti-semite. Wait; that's me. Shoot. Now I'm confused.

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here's the part that makes me laugh at
all the race trolls who have decided that anyone black and brown is to be reviled. (Because when people who aren't black or brown commit crimes-- a whole race is never condemned.)

while you are typing from the safety of your abode so many people who are black and brown are putting their asses on the line in Iraq in the name of an America that lets you feel so secure to be a racist pig.

I know it won't make a bit of difference when people are feeling justified and righteous about being so prejudicial but just a thought.

Sign me,
I'm an American too

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Truth is the vast majority of white people in this country have never been appreciative of the efforts of others to enhance or maintain the lives they enjoy. Blacks, Hispanics, nor Native Americans! As a matter of fact, they seem to truly beleive that everyone else is on this earth soley for their benefit.

They have collectively stolen, raped, sabotaged, fill in the blank, even killed!- soley to benefit themselves. Then have the nerve to become annoyed, even angry when a small group of these people appear to return their tactics.

Don't be mad- your need and greed created these fools!

Let's all count how many responses this post gets from the sons/ daughters of slaveowners/ benefactors/ let's wait and see while others are being tortured crowd.

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