September 10, 2007
Misshapes Ends, Hipsters Divide
Some might say it's the end of an era, others may ask: "What's Misshapes?" -- either way, the weekly party ended this past weekend with Pulp's Disco 2000 providing the sonic fade-out.
The NY Times reported on the party, its attendees, its hosts and someone named Tommy Hottpants. The mood on the last night seemed to be celebratory, and the party-goers already have new plans for their Saturday nights. Mr. Jeremy Lipkin, a 23-year old gentleman from Williamsburg, declares: “The new hot party is the dinner party." Will all hipsters instantly transform in to New Victorians? Well, at least they can reminisce about their glory days by flipping through the Misshapes coffee table book.
Meanwhile, over at The Post, Joey Arak announces an "all-too-real, increasing divide between Manhattan hipsters and Brooklyn hipsters." Apparently the once singular group of "hipster" has split (someone should really start charting this species), though both temporarily coexisted on the former's turf that last night of Misshapes. The rivalry, we're assured, didn't result in violence, or even a Sharks vs Jets dance-off -- but we're guessing some rolls of the eye and up-down looks were given.
DJ Mike Nouveau explains the greatest difference in these two groups is that one shops at Barneys, the other at Beacon's Closet. What did our own Jeff Baum have to say about it? "Brooklyn hipsters are about the whole lifestyle. They have their own parties and events. Anyone who can afford to live in Manhattan these days and has the audacity to act poor and troubled is doing it for show." Brooklyn Hipsters: 1, Manhattan Hipsters: 0.
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The Misshapes are the biggest non-story to ever captivate the blogosphere. I dont know one person who gives a shit about them, outside of bloggers. Good riddance.
Are you kidding? You actually posted this? Brooklyn Hipsters v. Manhattan Hipsters? I can't believe you actually waste your time on this complete bullsh*t!
Jen Carlson - there is a whole other world that exists outside of the LES. I just want you to know.
Yeah, like the Brooklyn retards are really poor. Fucking retards.
Thank god for Williamsburg. Otherwise where would the poor people go?
"Are you kidding? You actually posted this? Brooklyn Hipsters v. Manhattan Hipsters? I can't believe you actually waste your time on this complete bullsh*t!"
This story is VERY relevant to Gothamist since Hipsters make up the majority of the readership
tried to care.
failed to care.
Charting the hipsters?!? Do I smell a Gothamist flowchart?!?! WOOHOO!
what is this dogshit? who the fuck cares about these assholes? get a fuckin life Carlson.
buy them all guns so they can kill themselves
"Anyone who can afford to live in Manhattan these days and has the audacity to act poor and troubled is doing it for show." Brooklyn Hipsters: 1, Manhattan Hipsters: 0."
Last time I checked, it cost just as much to live in Williamsburg as it does in Manhattan. But I guess you're more like to get robbed or stabbed in BK, which makes it alt.
Is this like the East Coast vs. West Coast rap wars?
That slide show in the times is pretty hilarious. What a weak, lame-ass (sort of)subculture. They're still better than meatheads and yuppies though.
Dear 'guests',
Lighten up.
k?
k.
Willie hears ya .... willie don't care.
How is making a trend your whole lifestyle winning?
why so much hate against gothamist? think what you want about new york "hipster" culture, but the fact that it exists is noteworthy. look at it as a sort of metropolitan sociological field of study.
Is a "hipster" like a "fanny pack?"
Wait a minute, I just got my trucker hat, ironic t-shirt, skinny jeans and big sunglasses. Also I haven't bathe nor shave for a week, and has been drinking PBR all month. What type of hipster am I?
oh, this is totally my favorite quote from the ny times article - it's from the 2nd photo in the slide show: "Since 2002, Misshapes has worn its mantle as the ur-hipster party."
ur-hipster.
HA HA HA.
Perhaps Gothamist missed the article in The Times last year that stated "parents or children with trust funds are buying about 25 percent of the inventory in Williamsburg," if you ask me that means its pretty pathetic if people in Manhattan and Williamsburg are trying to look poor and troubled. Perhaps the poster lives in Brooklyn and therefore is defensive?? Manhattan Hipsters: 0 Brooklyn Hipsters: 0
I'm all about the Bronx hipsters these days. Hair chests and Yankees caps are the new ironic fashion.
and an old time louisville slugger under the seat.
I'm glad they're getting mugged in billyburg. Now we know who has money.
Dang right, Guest #21, I'm a Bronx hardcore Clocktower hipster, so all ya'll can just suck it.
Or something like that...
I hear a lot about these "trust fund hipsters", yet I've never met one in person. I'm not entirely sure they exist.
that's cause you're not one of them. do you have a kato mask? is green hornet your sidekick?
Anyone who says it costs just as much to live in Williamsburg as it does to live in Manhattan is WRONG. There are more spaces, and bigger spaces to be found for cheaper in Williamsburg than in Manhattan (unless maybe you live in Morningside Heights). Sure, if you live in one of the new condos it's gonna cost you as much as in Manhattan. But most of us live in Williamsburg because it IS cheaper than living in the city.
hipsters are less anoying than the pointy shoes girls with the front of their hair pulled back, and short enough skirts too see hair. It's better to act poor than to act rich - if you have to act.
if you think you're not getting ripped off by your landlord, you live in bushwick.
a handy thing about headlines: if you don't feel like reading a particular post, you don't have to. apparently some readers haven't figured this out...
p.s. don't forget to send reactionary emails bitching to the NY post and NYT while you're at it!
#26.
Wrong.
This debate is consistently fueled by people so ignorant of Manhattan in general (read: people who have moved to Brooklyn from elsewhere and have pre-conceived notions about Manhattan that all their similar roots friends agree with ignorantly).
I laughed very loud at that quote ""Brooklyn hipsters are about the whole lifestyle. They have their own parties and events. Anyone who can afford to live in Manhattan these days and has the audacity to act poor and troubled is doing it for show." especially considering that most of the 'hipsters' I know in Brooklyn are trust fund brats shopping at Beacon's Closet for the kitsch factor, NOT because they cannot afford Barneys. Please.
- Native New Yorker glad to see this silly 'scene' die.
All the "native New Yorkers" who are constantly screaming "go back to X state where you came from" need to realize - NYC is ALL ABOUT people migrating here from elsewhere and always has been. Perhaps if you are sick of people coming to your beloved city and "ruining" it for you, you should move somewhere else, because people are not going to stop coming here.
Brooklyn gets to be the Sharks
I don't mind people moving here. I embrace it. What I don't embrace are self-indulgent 'scene' kiddies from elsewhere who spread their ignorance about NYC in general (like for example all the rumors about big, bad, expensive Manhattan *laugh*).
quoted for truth,
you come here full of ignorance, ruining everything in your wake.
why don't you get your hipster shit over with now then move back into your lily white gated community with your private security force keeping out the undesirables.
hey #31 you are a dope. i am a native new yorker and i never told people to go back to where they came from ever - until the hipsters came to town. there is a reason why they are so hated.
"...there is a reason why they are so hated."
Because they wear whatever the hell they want, and no one should ever be given that right. They should buy some regular clothes and fade in with the rest of the normal population.
Or at least look happy like the rest of New Yorkers in the subway do. Or move to a neighborhood they can't afford.
Why do people that hate hipsters give so much attention to them? Or talk like they regular check hipster bank statements?
why are they hated??
umm, did you see the NYT slideshow? Batman didn't even want that gay couple Green hornet and kato around. I've heard Green Hornet is a rice queen.
"Because they wear whatever the hell they want, and no one should ever be given that right. They should buy some regular clothes and fade in with the rest of the normal population."
That statement is amusing. Why? Mostly, it is amusing because once the trend is no longer to wear skinny leg pants and off the shoulder 1980's reject shirts in bad patterns, you really think half these hipsters will STILL be dressing like that? They are slaves to the trend of this little scene and they will most likely float on to the next crappy clothing trend du jour. If you want to say that is somehow wearing what they 'want' then I don't know what to say to you.
So, they are following a trend. let them, who cares? We all follow a trend at some point. I bet you most of the guests here own an iPod, does that make you brainless sheeple too? Want, got sucked into, enjoy, whatever it is, shouldn't they be able to do it?
Us natives have never had a problem with people moving here, ever, because we know 95% of people move here and then bounce back home to where they came from in a few years. We actually love it because then we take all your expensive possessions you abandon out of the garbage and keep them! Ha Ha! That's the real secret!
So....yuppies who have jobs are bad, whereas hipsters who just have cash but no jobs are better?
It still makes me laugh that the people who used to make fun of the worker bees by calling us bridge and tunnel now are B&T themselves.
It's all sad posturing till they need to get a real job. People will always come to NY, but usually they add something other than smugness to the mix.
while i have to like jeff baum because a quick googling of his name showed me that he, too, is a huge Friday Night Lights fan, i'm going to go out on a limb and say that his little quote is possibly the most ignorant, misguided thing i've ever read on this website...and that's really saying something.
..but hey, you guys got the thee click-throughs you wanted from me by posting this, so who is the real idiot here?
Are you people f'ing stupid, the majority of the people at these parties are HOMOSEXUALS (not saying there's anything wrong with that). Times quote: "It’s the end of an era, darling,” said Jonny Makeup! They're playing Cher, another guy's name is "Tommy Hottpants"! When did "hipster" transform to mean "gay"?!!? It's just 80s tranny druggie club kids you knobs!
Hipsters, hipsters EVERYWHERE!
The history of the Williamsburg-Lower East Side split:
'90s: People moved to Williamsburg because it was close to the East Village.
2000: Williamsburg got too expensive. So they spread to Bushwick to be close to Williamsburg which was close to the East Village.
2001: Terrorists attacked Manhattan. Poisonous gaseous dust cloud lingered for months. Rents in Manhattan dipped for about 5 months.
Artists figured out that living just below Delancey Street in early 2002 was the same exact price as living in Bushwick in early 2002. Just a little bit of toxic air, no big deal.
Then the toxic air,, cause the Lower East Siders to mutate and evolve superior artistic and fashion skills, able to supersede people of all income brackets and artistic ability. With only a single glance, they could render Williamsburgers angry and insecure, causing them to write entire blogs about how the LES is "full of it." Upon daybreak, the Lower East Siders simply return back into their dark caves of apartments, to be hidden from society, ready to do it all again the next night.
(sp) Then the toxic air caused the Lower East Siders....
Can we send the hipsters back to mom and dad in the suburbs?
that some biting, original commentary, #49.
I'm not here to say anything meaningful; I just want to contribute to the noise.
Everyone conforms in one way or another. Whether it be by wearing second hand 80s grandma clothes or shopping at abercrombie and fitch or wearing only adidas warm up suits. So I don't think anyone should pull the hipsters are conformists/nonconformists card. They are a subculture like any other subculture.
The haters are full of shit.
Like any of you would kick Leigh or Geordon out of bed.
Are you kidding? You actually posted this? Brooklyn Hipsters v. Manhattan Hipsters? I can't believe you actually waste your time on this complete bullsh*t!
Jen Carlson - there is a whole other world that exists outside of the LES. I just want you to know.
[2] Posted by: guest | September 10, 2007 3:39 PM
WORD UP.
Just a quick answer to the question no one is answering, ie. "why are they so hated"
I'm personally sick of hipsters because when I get out of work a little early and walk from the Bedford L stop back to my apartment the street are full of people who obviously didn't have to bother working that day, dressed "ironically", and when I walk by dressed in "work clothes" people look at me and sneer like I'm a fascist or something.
Hatin' goes both ways.
I am no hipster (more like a Geek sometimes mistaken for a Hipster).
I have no problems with them, I even find some of them hot and sexy.
Hipster Sex is the Best!
This entire comments section=double win.
Hipster-on- hipster hate is the best.
make fun of what hipsters are wearing all you like. you'll be wearing it two years from now!
(cases in point: dominicanas in leggings and skinny jeans. spring fashion collections producing graphic prints like it's something fresh. and everything at "suburban outfitters.")
it's pretty fruitless to write off an entire group of people by what they wear or listen to or where they live. you're missing out; believe it or not, people who dress similarly or ride the L can actually be quite different when you get to know them! the people that need to GET OUT OF NEW YORK are the ones so eager to stereotype and hate. i don't care if you're "native," you don't belong here if you can't see past stereotypes, or, if you simply can't let people be and refrain from flaming on a message board. GO STEP ON ONE OF THOSE METAL ZAPPER PLATES, thank you con-ed!
HOMOSEXUALS, not "hipsters". That's what Misshapes parties were. I'll keep saying it until you get it, cuz the article and most of you people are just plain wrong and are too caught up in yourselves. (PS the brooklyn vs manhattan vs staten island thing is old and tired).
when did staten island get into this fight??