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Ooh, Streetsblog glimpses what seems to be the first real-time information board at a bus shelter! Apparently the board was being installed at an M15 shelter at First and East 14th. Streetsblog also has some video and ruefully notes, "Unfortunately, for now it appears that the new displays can only be read and understood by bus riders fluent in Klingon." Well, it's only fitting that the board display the equivalent of garbled PA messages. Update: It turns out the messages are displaying smoothly/correctly (but it just couldn't be captured by cameraphone). Still, we'll expect some hiccups (the MTA is only...the MTA, right?).
For those of you who are keeping track, the MTA was looking into testing this technology on a few lines - the M15, M31, M35, M57, M66, M72 and M116 - starting back in June of 2005. The MTA has long been interested in using satellite tracking to let customers know when buses are coming, but in previous studies, the skyscrapers interfered!
And earlier this year, the MTA started to install real-time information boards at some subway stations.
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The reason why the sign looks like it's in Klingon is because of the mismatch between the refresh rates of the camera and the sign.
""Unfortunately, for now it appears that the new displays can only be read and understood by bus riders fluent in Klingon." Well, it's only fitting that the board display the equivalent of garbled PA messages."
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
LED Signs do not refresh.
um, sure they do. actually if these displays are anything like the one i've used, they're actually strobing, meaning only one vertical line is displayed at a time.
the problem here isn't a refresh mismatch, still images don't have a refresh rate. the picture just needs exposure time longer than the strobe cycle.
Yet another waste of funds by the MTA . At-least perfect the software first ! Geez !!! Posted by; "Still Not Amused"
Those will be stolen and/or vandalized and destroyed within days.
#4 you are correct. The frequency that the LED's pulse/draw are slower than the average shutter speed, hence garbled messages in photos. Just try to take a photo of the red LED route sign on the front of the newer subway cars and you'll get only a partial circle around the number/letter. Same issue.
I posted a correction on Streetsblog after talking to the person who submitted the camera phone photos:
Correction: The digital sign displays text smoothly. Our tipster's camera phone was unable to capture a clear image.
Call back the repair crews, MTA.
Wow, I recall it was only 10 years ago when I first saw these signs in many European cities. At least it didn't take 20 years to get here.
I first noticed one of these displays at an M116 stop (at Lenox, I think) earlier this summer. I was wondering how it worked.
The one at the M15 Ltd stop at 42nd & 1st works perfectly.
I'm getting tired of the comparison to Europe or other parts of the world. You're not in other parts of the world. You're in New York. Different places have different priorities. And these signs are a needless expense that provide little to no value to the consumer or the tax payer.
Agreed #12, priorities on thinks like having drinkable tap water. (though I still want electronic signs too)