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Karl Rove, the political mastermind who maneuvered George W. Bush to the White house twice, will be stepping down from his role as President Bush's political adviser at the end of the month. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Rove explained, "I just think it's time. There's always something that can keep you here, and as much as I'd like to be here, I've got to do this for the sake of my family." Rove will be returning to Texas and stay out of politics -for now.
Karl Rove, Adviser to President Bush, to Resign - washingtonpost.com
In his WSJ interview, he makes some predictions: The Democrats' 2008 presidential nomination will go to Senator Hillary Clinton ("tough, tenacious, fatally flawed candidate") but makes no predictions about the Republican nomination. From the WSJ:
Mr. Rove also said he expects the president's approval rating to rise again, and that conditions in Iraq will improve as the U.S. military surge continues. He said he expects Democrats to be divided this fall in the battle over warrantless wiretapping, while the budget battle -- and a series of presidential vetoes -- should help Republicans gain an edge on spending restraint and taxes.What's interesting is that Rove first considered leaving a year ago, but stayed because of the GOP's losses during the midterm elections. However, as the NY Times reports, expectation that senior White House aides that stayed through Labor Day "would...stay through the rest" of the Bush presidency "forced" Rove's hand.
The Washington Post notes that while many high-profile presidential aides have resigned recently, "None came close to Rove's stature or influence, however. His departure is the end of an era in modern GOP politics, the conclusion of 14 years that began with advising the son of the last Republican to hold the White House, then guiding that son first to the Texas governor's mansion and, ultimately, to the White House. Along the way, Rove became the most prominent political strategist of his generation and a bete noire for liberals and even a number of conservative critics".
Related: Here's commentary from the WSJ's Paul Gigot, who interviewed Rove, analysis from Politico ("He can claim credit for political victories of historic proportions, but also stands accused of policy failures and a strategy of divisiveness."), and this 2005 NY Times editorial about his possible role in the Plame leak ("While we like government officials who are willing to whisper vital information, we like even more government officials who tell the truth in public.").
Photograph of Bush and Rove by Ron Edmonds/AP
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Gothamist's liberal bias continues to shine through. What does this have to do with New York?
people who whine about "liberal bias" let their stupidity shine through. this is what i call a morning pick-me-up. thanks gothamist.
please lord, let the door hit him on the way out. hard.
good riddance. But, what hole will Karl Rove now crawl out of. Fred Thompson's office?
Oh and #1, quit your whining!
Too bad. I was hoping he'd be leaving the White House in handcuffs, along with the rest of his cronies.
so here comes the hypocrisy. All you can do is call me a whiner because none of you can explain what this has to do with Gotham. Why don't you guys go over to Daily Kos to get your fix?
he should have resigned after that video of him rapping and doing the cabbage patch surfaced on youtube.
now that bush's brain is flying the coop, all we need is for cheney to drop dead, and then bush will really be fucked—damned semi-literate yokel!
oh and re: all the whiners.
it affects new york, albeit indirectly, because it affects the country in which this fine city is located. remember, new york city hasn't seceded the union, even though it acts like it has. big fucking duh.
What it has to do with NYC is that Rove's dealings have affected the entire nation.
hi number 1. i'm a visitor, too. and conservative, as well. I'd like to agree, however, as much as it pains me, that you are whining. it seems that you are upset about something and are just pissy and striking out ad hominem in frustration.
what happens in the white house has everything to do with new york. last i checked, new york is part of the us.
here's hoping for a real conservative (a la goldwater) in 08. this administration has really soured me on republicans. i'm already soured on democrats. the whole government just needs a good bath and to be sent to bed without dinner.
I'd rather see him shot, but sometimes in life you have to settle.
I wonder what this will do to "executive privledge"?
Guest #1: Yeah, because we need more Fox News and Bill O'Reilly-types telling people to shut up *rolls eyes*. While we're at it, we really need to cut down on smart people- I think they have a liberal bias.
Anyway, good news.
What difference does it make now-he already got Bush 8 years in office to do his permanent damage to the USA (which, to the complaining guest, NYC is a part of) and Bush isnt running again. So, he's probably leaving because he's done his job, horrible as it is.
To commenter number 1: A lesson in basic journalism. Just because you are a "local" blog, does not mean you do not report a MAJOR story about a member of the President of the United States' cabinet. Last time I checked, New York was part of the United States. Why is it that you can't find a solid conservative rebuttal to a "liberal" story?? Conservatives, SMART Conservatives, where the hell are you?
Turdblossom says wants to spend more time with his family. That's what they all say when they run out with their tail between their legs.
It's not Liberal or Conservative to be glad this guy is out. It's American. There are plenty of Repubs that are sickened with this administration. Talk to one sometime.
Of course he's resigning now. There is nothing left to fuck up.
What it has to do with NYC is that Rove's dealings have affected the entire nation.
So do lots of things that you never report on. Did you report on Congress passing a wiretapping bill that directly contradicted the Democratic Party's 2006 campaign rhetoric? Do you ever report on New York's role in the subprime mortgage mess? Face it, Jen. You're just throwing red meat to the wolves to drive up your traffic. Your site has really gone downhill. I guess we can only be grateful that you haven't posted a Shakeshack plug in a long time.
Oh, poor guest, still can't face the fact that the Republican Party is a menace to American society. So sad. I like that "Daily Kos" reference too. Do you get all your talking points and marching orders from Bill O'Rielly?
He may be leaving so that he can work behind the scenes on whatever dirt the Republicans can dig up on the Democratic nominee and to figure out to poach the next election. Youve got to get started early!
What does it matter that he's gone? He went out on his own accord. Maybe there was some political pressure, but what's the difference? He's choosing to go. Also, if you think the President can't just call him up and get political advice, freely, I'm sure you're delusional.
Rove's departure means absolutely nothing. It's not a victory for Dems. It's not a loss for Repubs. It's just another bland bit of news.
It's not Liberal or Conservative to be glad this guy is out. It's American. There are plenty of Repubs that are sickened with this administration. Talk to one sometime.
Hey genius, not once have I said I am pro-Rove, pro-Bush, or even a Republican. All I call for is unbiased and relevent reporting. For the self-proclaimed "smart half" of America you guys all seem incapable of reading what's written as opposed to what you want to see.
Controlled Media never Gets it right unfortunately
because of the Illuminati and the freemasons con-
trolling the world. If politicians would stand up
and compel some backbone and control things in re-
spect to the forefathers and force the president
and his administrations to do their jobs honestly,
how nice would that be. The NWO is on a roll and
we're all suffering tremendously. The lies just
keep mounting and god knows how many sets of en-
cyclopedias we could produce and sell with just
lies and corruption, not to mention the black bud-
get and the underground projects.
Miles and miles of smiles! :)
Oh, and for those of you who are griping that the gothamist is way out there, reporting the most liberal stuff:
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1119355586&hl=en
Visit that link and tell me who isn't?
And there was much rejoicing.
we're all doomed ... and in denial about it.
Oh, and for those of you who are griping that the gothamist is way out there, reporting the most liberal stuff:
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1119355586&hl=en
Visit that link and tell me who isn't?
those links are all newspapers. This is a blog about New York, or at least it was. Now we're lucky if we get one decent story a day that isn't about Giuliani, Shakeshack, or grafiti.
Maybe it was just interesting to Jen Chung and she decided to post it on her website. No liberal conspiracy, just something that was interesting to the site's editor.
I'm sure Fox News is treating Rove's exit with a fair and balanced perspective on the man's career.
How exactly does one join the Illuminati? It sounds cool. I'll have to look into that.
Oh, poor guest, still can't face the fact that the Republican Party is a menace to American society. So sad. I like that "Daily Kos" reference too. Do you get all your talking points and marching orders from Bill O'Rielly?
You're such an idiot, Elderta. Could you be any more cliche? Talking points? O'Reilly? Please. you haven't the slightest idea what I believe. What's "sad" is that i called for unbiased reporting and you jumped all over me. That makes you as bad as anyone on the right. What are you afraid of?
FYI I don't watch O'Reilly because he's a piss poor journalist that mangles the facts. But if you had watched the bio on him on 60 Minutes you might be shocked to find out that you and he (and me for that matter) share the same opinions on lots of things.
ahh, i get to say it again. this is a blog. a blog that can report what it wants. if you don't like reading this blog, you should probably find a different blog to read.
it seems really, really simple.
Are conservative sycophants still allowed to whine endlessly about the "unfair treatment" they are getting? Seriously, their ilk has run this country temporiraly off the rails, and they still are allowed to play the victim? Pull yourself up the bootstraps and be a man (or woman)!
The Rats continue to flee the sinking ship?
I don't mind at all reading about these non-specifically NYC things on Gothamist.
But ... MY EYES! ... IT BURNS! ... that photo is too big
:)
It is good news; he'll take a much deserved rest for a few months and then go to work to get the next republican president elected. It's like the Red Sox fans hating on Arod; if he was playing for them he'd be a god and anything he did would be OK. The dems are clueless, and leaderless, and I'm ashamed to still be registered democrat.
Gothamist has posted non-NYC government politics news before, I don't see why everyones getting their panties in a bunch now. Considering how quickly everyone began arguing back and forth, and as a consequence generating more clicks for the blog, it was a good idea, lol.
Aww, poor guest. You're the one who shows your rightwing hand in "liberal bias" and "Daily Kos," and I'm the cliched idiot? Oh boy, that's rich.
First all, the words "liberal bias." Wow, where have I have that before? Oh right, every rightwing website and talk show host that attempts to lay on the smear. If you wanted an actual "answer" to your "question" regarding what this story has to do with Gothamist (whatever Gothamist wants it do with NY), you should never start out with the "liberal bias" crap. You show your hand in the first sentence and then complain when it's pointed out to you? Typical.
So, when people catch you out on your crap, it's time for another round: on to: "Daily Kos." So cute, this one. It's a talking point, my friend, and again shows your own bias. You don't want an answer to your "question." You want to throw out names and cover it up with a question. Very typical. Poor guest... you want to try and now ask the question without the insults? Maybe you'll get an answer!
Are conservative sycophants still allowed to whine endlessly about the "unfair treatment" they are getting? Seriously, their ilk has run this country temporiraly off the rails, and they still are allowed to play the victim? Pull yourself up the bootstraps and be a man (or woman)!
I'm not saying I am a victim. I don't know where that's coming from. Just saying that a blog called gothamist thinks Karl Rove is relevent to New Yorkers then maybe it could cover an actual "New Yorker" running for President e.g. Hillary Clinton. If the most intelligent political discussion on these boards begins and ends with "Giuliani sucks" it should come as no shock that it took the war in Iraq for the Democrats to finally take back Congress or that Congress has a 20% approval rating. They won by default and they are going to make the 2008 elections unnecessarily close.
#32 whines about the GOP "running the country off the rails" but what exactly have the Democrats in Congress done to get it back on the rails? As a voter is should offend you that their current position is that they don't have enough votes in the Senate so they're just going to wait until 2009.
the whining bitching guest is a regular gothamist whiner. he's the guy who bitches and complains and is a rudy backer.
yep, this is the same whining bitching guest who complains there isn't enough hillary dirt on this blog.
he's the same whining bitching whiner who says he's not a republican or democrat but is a whining bitching bitch.
see #38
38 - you're obviously as much of an actual NY'er as Hilary is! Fuckin douchebag hipster carpetbagging asshole!
TRUE: Rove does affect New York.
FALSE: Rove is a New York–centric figure.
TRUE: New York is located in the Milky Way galaxy.
FALSE: Outer-space is a New York–centric topic.
Get it now?
42-ny IS the center of the universe
the whining bitching guest is a regular gothamist whiner. he's the guy who bitches and complains and is a rudy backer.
Nope, not a rudy backer. nice try. I just think we should talk about issues and you guys think "Giuliani sucks" is intelligent discussion.
who says he's not a republican or democrat but is a whining bitching bitch.
I'm not registered with either party and have the registration card to prove it.
yep, this is the same whining bitching guest who complains there isn't enough hillary dirt on this blog.
Not looking for "dirt". When did talking about her positions become dirt? Why are you people so afraid of discussion? For the self-proclaimed smart half of America this crowd is pretty ignorant.
Fuckin douchebag hipster carpetbagging asshole!
Wow.
Thank God that fat fucking pig will be gone.
I just said the whining bitching bitch always mentions he's neither a democrat nor republican.
then goes on and bitches as to why aren't there any hillary "dirt".
He's a regular gothamist whining bitcher.
Well look at it this way, The assholes are going down one by one so that's reassuring ! Posted by; "Still Not Amused"
He's a regular gothamist whining bitcher.
You're as much as whiny bitch as anyone.
I only speak the truth and that guy's a regular gothamist whining bitching bitcher bitch.
just doing my job exposing the whining bitching bitches.
what no hillary story?
I only speak the truth and that guy's a regular gothamist whining bitching bitcher bitch.
Did you learn to talk like that at columbia university? were you on the debate team?
the truth finally comes out, you're jealous you didn't get into an ivy league school.
Number 37 got you pegged,
you whining bitching whiny bitching bitch.
More decietful window dressing and maneuvers calculated in rish management meetings. Guest #5 got it right. He should be exiting in handcuffs. It still might happen wherever he goes. Bunch of crooks.
Window dressing indeed. An oily exit "to spend time with my family" while a subpoena looms on possibly treasonous charges -- looks like a classic dictatorship move. Saving face like this is oddly right out of the Chinese Communist Party handbook -- proving that all ideologues eventually end as totalitarians.
Someday a rain's gonna come. . .
Hey Mr. WhineyGuest, if you are so involved and concerned with this blog and it's posts- why dont you signup, get a user name, etc- and allow those of us who mearly read the posts to ignore yours.
Thank you.
PS- I hope Rove, AbuG, Dickie C, Rummy and Bush all end up in Gitmo getting waterboarded- but this is a start.
#54
Before you criticize others for posting anonymously you might start by getting your own username... just sayin'.
he truth finally comes out, you're jealous you didn't get into an ivy league school.
Actually I got into three and went to one. But unlike most vocal internet liberals I don't pretend that simply graduating from a certain school makes me an expert all subjects. You have to keep reading and learning and listen to both sides. You guys wouldn't know anything about that. You guys are like Rove, my party right or wrong.
PS- I hope Rove, AbuG, Dickie C, Rummy and Bush all end up in Gitmo getting waterboarded- but this is a start.
Fine by me. I didn't vote for them. But who is AbuG?
And why don't I have a user name? Maybe the real question is why do you care? What does that have to do with anything? Nice try to change the topic but nobody has made a reasonable retort to my initial request for better standards of coverage. If I had a username would you guys actually answer my questions and engage in serious debate or would you just attack me name? I think it would be the latter.
gothamist can report on what it wants... much like the daily news, the times, the journal, or the post. every single piece of media has some manner of bias, gothamist isn't going to be any different. quit complaining.
I don't think this piece has a "liberal bias" at all- it's simply stating the facts. You can argue that it's not relevant to New York (which is a stupid argument too, but at least it would be possible to back that up with some evidence) but I don't see why you would say that it's biased.
In other news, was anyone else surprised to read that his son is an adult and no longer lives at home? Wouldn't it have made more sense if we were retiring to "spend more time with his family" while his kid was still a kid? Hmmm...
i have to agree with 42.
Hey genius #21, who said I was talking to you?
I like Karl Rove.
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