Rudy Makes Dumb Remarks as Rangel Rips Him

rangel.jpgRep. Charles Rangel spoke with WNBC newsman Gabe Pressman Friday evening for an interview that will air Sunday morning. He told Pressman that New Yorkers shouldn't favor Giuliani just because he's from their area or showed some type of leadership in the hours and days after 9/11/01. Rangel attributes Giuliani's positive impression as simply the product of filling a vacuum created by an absent-for-hours President Bush. While the Congressman appreciates that temporary performance, he hopes New Yorkers will recognize the larger impression he has of the current Republican candidate.

Rangel replied, "I don't think any federal prosecutor indicted more people that were subsequently acquitted than Giuliani. You know, he's a tough guy from the neighborhood that wants everyone to know how tough he is. He's the guy that calls the police to rally, cussing and fussing and bringing out the meanness in them as they drank beer and attacked David Dinkins. He polarized the city like no mayor's ever done."
When asked to account for Giuliani's popularity nationwide and among city voters, Rangel said that voters were deceived by a one-time event where non-partisanship held the day. The interview will appear on WNBC's News Forum, Sunday at 6:30 a.m.

Separately, and as if on cue to maximize political damage, Rudy Giuliani implied at a Thursday Reds-Dodgers game in Cincinnati that he spent as much time at Ground Zero, if not more, than uniformed rescue workers. Later, Giuliani backtracked on a national radio broadcast to say that he was speaking figuratively, more or less. The former mayor tried to explain that he was just identifying with Ground Zero workers and relating that he was "with them."

While some spent more time at Ground Zero than he did and others spent less, "I was there often enough so that every health consequence that people have suffered, I could also be suffering. People on my staff were there with me. Some of them weren't there as often as I was, and some of them have gotten sick already," he said.
Giuliani's association and reliance on 9/11 as a campaign issue is becoming a liability as much as an asset to the candidate. This video released last month features firefighters blaming Giuliani for the high loss of FDNY lives during the attacks.

(Image from AP photo, by Karel Navarro)

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what he said is true.
God Bless you Charlie Rangel.

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Maybe Rangel should try doing his job in Washington instead of wasting our time in his eight year crusade to get Hillary in the White House.

Congress has an approval rating worse than Bush's.

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he speaks the truth.

scum of the fucking earth.

well done, chuck.

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Thanks Charlie. It's long past the time we stand up to this bully. He's caused more then enough damage to this city and needs to be stopped.

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haha Keep shooting from the hip, Rudy - you should be done very soon...!

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Moderator: So, Mr Giuliani, how many other statements have you made in the past where you have stretched the truth a little...?

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I'd like to see not only his political career destroyed, but also his reputation - pass the popcorn , please.

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Rudy: he'll say anything (and marry anyone) just to get elected.

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rudy, mitt romney's beating ya.

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I can tell you this: In 1989, when the city was under the not so watchful watch of Mayor Dinkins, I was robbed by two young guys at five pm coming out of an exit on the C line at West 87th St. They made me get down on the ground and put a gun to my head. Luckily, all they took was my bag and not my life. But when I filed the complaint with the cops, they said there had been so many robberies on the subways with guns that it would be hard to catch the guys. The cops had no pride and very little motivation to do anything to stem the tide of crime I never heard from them again. Then in 1997 I was robbed by a crack addict in broad daylight at an ATM on West 86th. This was when Giuliani was mayor. The cops that helped me praised him for getting the force in shape and their pride up. Those cops found my robber within days and I picked him out of a lineup and he went to prison... Night and day difference between those two Mayors' attitudes towards crime. I will gladly vote for Giuliani. And Rangel has been in some sleazy undertakings himself - he is a bit of a snake oil saleseman and I don't believe a word of what he says.

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HA HA,
number 11 got mugged twice, hehehehehehehehe
God Bless You sir, Charlie Rangel, you keep doing what you're doing.
Fighting for our rights. I will gladly vote for you every November. Gladly, sir.

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too bad he didn't shoot your brains out.

Giuliani has zero qualifictions to be president. Narrow minded, mean spirited, and what the hell does he know about global politics or being commander in chief of the armed forces for chrissake. Just because the bar has been set at an all-time low with Bush doesn't mean that we shouldn't look to have some intelligent stewardship in the next presidency. He just doesn't have the right stuff. And I have said before that the guy is a prosecuter at heart. In the role of president, that's just one step away from some generalissimo fascist. I hope he doesn't get any further. Looks like he's slippin'. Good.

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Fighting for our rights.

Now that I'm done laughing at you I'd like to tell you that if you think Rangel gives a crap about you you're sadly delusional. In the list of things Rangel is interested in you're welfare comes in somewhere around 102.

And once again Gothamist, why the obsession with Giuliani and never an article on hillary clinton? What are you afraid of?

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Look! The liberal hypocrits are out in force today. Remember when Al Gore told complete fabrications during the 2000 campaign? Where was the outrage? Most of you are so partisan that all you care about is party first. And then you wonder why the state of American politics is so divisive. You're part of the problem, not the solution. If any of you actually gave a shit about the country you would actually want Giuliani to win the GOP nomination to at least break the stranglehold the religious right have on the party. But instead we'll probably end up with President Romney. Fuck you in advance.

signed,
the moderate 90% of the country

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We need more congressmen and congresswomen like Charlie Rangel. he's over 70 and still kicking it to the over 70 conservatives.
You keep fighting for our rights, mr. rangel.
we love you here in NY. we don't need another slimey wop dago wop wop wop politico.
God Bless you Charlie Rangel.

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oh please,
no way will America vote for a Dago wop.
Mitt Romney will get the nod and the win, crazy mormon or not a crazy mormon.
Now go make me a pizza.

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#11 - don't you think it was a bit easier to catch the criminal with footage from the ATM camera, instead of a robbery away from all surveillance? Perhaps that was why the cops felt they could help you.

Yes Giuliani cleaned up the city, but he is an arrogant 9/11 fanboi.

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If George Bush had flown right from Florida to DC or New York you would all have said he was showboating and trying to capitalize on a horrible situation. If Bill Clinton had flown from Florida to North Dakota you would all have praised him for being prudent. It just all depends on what color your glasses are when you view the world.

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me thinks 17 and 18 are the same dude.
Mitt Romney changed his campaign around, he let giuliani implode. he knew the closer it got to 9/11 the more bad dirt will come out. he's just sitting and enjoying it all and then letting rudy have it at the debates.

# 16, Amusing that you decry "partisanship" while seemingly being as partisan as possible.

"liberal hypocrits"?
"Fuck you in advance."?
You're a "Moderate"?
Riigggghhhhttttt, keep drinking the Kool Aid...

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Yeah, SD, I consider myself a moderate. I might be slightly right of center but I'm still a moderate. I'm not registered or affiliated with any political party. I did not vote for George W. Bush but I voted for Bloomberg. Maybe your problem is you, like most New Yorkers, surround yourself with only friends that think exactly like you. The "fuck you in advance" is not commentary on any particular belief when it comes to policy but as far as politics goes the fringes of the spectrum (i.e. the liberals and the neocons) are the problem in that they have hijacked the only two parties we have. If you are as well read as you no doubt think you are you would know that there have been plenty of studies on how most people have beliefs that don't match either political party 100%. In other words America is not red and blue. The problem is that certain people think anyone that doesn't agree with them must be the enemy. In short, people like you.

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number 23 sounds like a smart aleck dick.
his American is not red or blue schtick, yet giuliani is the most divisive mayor the city's ever seen.
no one will vote for him because he's a dago wop with a name that's hard to spell.

Well, Anonymous Guest, You certainly don't know me and I'm not the one who said "Fuck you in advance", you are.

Out of curiosity, when did I use meaningless terms like "liberal hypocrits" (Dude, Firefox has Spell check...) or "neocons"?

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The problem is that certain people think anyone that doesn't agree with them must be the enemy. In short, people like you.
(sigh)
I know this will require a little thought on your part but I hardly said you're an "enemy", but I will say that your acting like an Asshole with your "Fuck you in advance" nonsense.

Go look up my comments in the past. I'm not exactly a "Red Or Blue" person. I certainly appreciate differing and well stated opinions, I just haven't seen you express one yet.

Is "Fuck you in advance" is your idea of a well stated opinion?

If you are as well read as you no doubt think you are, You might not be so quick to say ignorant things like "people like you".

What amuses me is that based on what you originally wrote (assuming your the same "Guest"), you seem a lot more to the "right" than anything else.

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#11 I'm sure it's not a particular look that you have....hehehe

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#14 Well, he looks strong in the face of adversity...and tells everyone to go shopping! LOL

politics aside, it's spelled "cincinnati" (i know, i know, just one of my very few spelling pet peeves).

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11: I take absolute offense at that comment. No pride? What fucking planet are you living on. My father was a detective 1st grade back in 89 in the south bronx and I can't tell you how hard these guys worked to try to stem the tide of innocent people getting robbed, like you were, twice, every day the clocked in for their shifts.

The crime the city was experiencing back then had absolutely nothing to do with Dinkins and everything to do with the fact that America, at the time, considered urban areas to be shit-worthless in the scheme of things.

Thank God for the dot com boom and the ensuing real estate run up huh? Giuliani should be thanking silicon valley for giving Wall Street the city that he eventually ran.

Seriously, wake the fuck up.

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No. 11 is correct. What do people have against Giuliani, especially liberals, especially say, a black resident of Harlem like Rangel? Under Dinkins, about 2,000 people a year in NYC lost their lives to crime; 98% of them black or hispanic. Giulinai dropped that to less than 700. That is 1500 people, nearly all "minority" who are not dead. What is so bad about that? He didn't kotow to the usual liberal agenda? He didn't repeat the same vapid philosophy that had accomplished nothing? If Dinkins beats Giuliani, many of the people that Rangel represents today would be dead. For decades, Rangel has made a choice: his political agenda or the lives of his constiuents and he chose the former. This, in the end, is what liberals hate about Giuliani: he proved them wrong. But, think about: he did use government to solve problems; just not the social welfare crap of racisit liberals who cannot accept non-whites as their equals. Lives are not worth preserving your political and social philosophies. Even black and other minority lives.

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the moderate 90% of the country,

Just wondering what were some of the "complete fabrications during the 2000 campaign" that Al Gore made?

signed,
I Am Stumped

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