Shootings Across Brooklyn Leave 2 Dead, Many Injured

They're blacks. They're uneducated. They're poor. They're this or that and the range of comments about it are as old as America. I happen to think it's to only be expected in the conjestion and summer time and all must be weather related. That or something is in the drinking water. Sure I have more to say! It Must Be The Weather

Now the US is being compared to third world countries? I'd think it's better to compare us to first world countries where things are much better in terms of money, drugs and poverty.

central and south american nations are much worse with the money, drugs and poverty.

*Don't we keep hearing how New York is getting safer? Bullshit! *

it is getting safer, better and real estate is more than stable in the hard working blue collar and middle class neighborhoods. these daily killings are over two things: money and drugs—or more commonly known as poverty.

When the developers come in and gentrify a neighborhood, yes they see dollar signs, but the hoods get a good cleaning and high volume police patrol—get a good job or two and you too can live in a safer neighborhood.

I have seen much worse in arab nations... maybe not drug killings, but poverty breeds a lot more than drugs and guns.

What do black guys do all day?

#22 is trying to say knives don't kill people, people kill people. Right?

I wonder why there are far fewer folks in the Netherlands looking to kill each other?

Any ideas?

And yes, I do assume that America is civilized yet I know it's not, but don't tell that to the masses, they will rip your head off.

#21- Your assuming America is civilized. However, yes, we definitely need uniform gun control laws that actually get enforced by each and every state (including Virginia) so no can be free to kill you and me.

Of course the Netherlands (and most of Western Europe) has low homicide rates because of strict gun laws.

Actually I think that has a lot more to do with the fact there are far fewer folks in the Netherlands looking to kill each other. There are dozens of stabbings every week in Brooklyn as well. I doubt the Netherlands has that many stabbing occurrences in even a month or two, and they don't have stricter knife laws over there.

#19, let's compare apples to apples, which is what it is, two supposedly civilized counties. Basically, America needs to have strict gun laws and stop being the land of the free to kill you and me.

So, here's how you can dig up yearly crime stats by neighborhood:

http://gis.nyc.gov/ops/mmr/address.jsp?app=MMR

My neighborhood (Bay Ridge) had 2 murders in '06. Bensonhurst/Bath Beach, also 2. 79th precinct (which I'm taking to mean Bed-Stuy): 21

#15- What's your point? We live in America, land of the free, guns for all. Of course the Netherlands (and most of Western Europe) has low homicide rates because of strict gun laws. Let's not compare apples with oranges.

Brooklyn Sucks.

Last I heard there were 2 hits in Bath Beach, about 4 or 5 months ago. Not a mob war with dozens dead.

And, I have to say, the shootings in Bed-Stuy, East NY, and Brownsville seem commonplace. Pretty much every week on the Times web site I see the headline "Shooting in Brooklyn," click through to read that it is one of these three neighborhoods, and move on.

You wanna prove your point, #14? Cite murder stats by neighborhood. I think you'll be disappointed.

The only solution to this chronic drug/gang murders is to empty the ghettos, clear the land, and build upscale condo developments. Preferably flanked by a Basketball Stadium and upscale shopping....oh wait they are already doing this, GO RATNER!!!

* this has been a public announcement by ATLANTIC YARDS GHETTO CLEARANCE COMMITTEE

A sign of the times? A symptom of what is really wrong with society?

You know, Brooklyn is big, but I bet there weren't 10 shootings in all of The Netherlands last night or most likely all of last month, and it's even bigger.

2:00,

Newsflash

White people kill each other too...

isn't Bensonhurst where there were dozens of murders last year because of a mob war?

It's more disgusting to me that we still live in a time where people can actually feel comfortable making comments like the one you just made.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem...

Bensonhurst and Bay Ridge have always been pretty white areas.

I remember as a teen I would travel everywhere in the city by subway without knowing what neighborhood I would be in. Nothing happened to me.

I've been to Harlem, Bay Ridge, Bensonhurst, Crown Heights or where the Sears is (I don't know the neighborhood name) Flatbush, Far Rockaway etc.

In case you don't know, Brooklyn is really big. That's like saying "oh my god, there was a shooting in Harlem last night, I better move out of the West Village".

A shooting in Bed-Stuy or East New York (both east Brooklyn) isn't going to scare anyone in other parts of Brooklyn to go out and buy a gun for protection or move to Long Island. Unless, of course, they are from Ohio.

Maybe the police should stop being glorified traffic agents and not stop people for the horrible crime of not wearing a seatbelt (a easy $90 fine), expired registration or inspection sticket, or 'defective equipment'.

Einstein, that's actually how they find people wanted on warrants or who are driving around with AK47's in the car.

Fight Racism. yes, even racism in the media.

It isn't front page news until some white hipster (usually from some bumfuck state in the midwest or south) under the age of 30 is a victim of a crime in the trendy parts of Manhattan. Then newspapers like the NY Post do their scare tactics that work on outer boro whites.

Maybe the police should stop being glorified traffic agents and not stop people for the horrible crime of not wearing a seatbelt (a easy $90 fine), expired registration or inspection sticket, or 'defective equipment'.

NYC has become a socialist nanny state (at the middle class tax payers expense anyway).

Yes, indeed, go back to Ohio. And while your at it, sell me your Brownstone for 1/4 what you paid for it, thanks.

No reason for anyone anywhere to ever have a gun.

Welcome back to the 80s!

brooklyn represent!

if u dont like it, go back to ohio!

Don't we keep hearing how New York is getting safer? Bullshit! That Bloomberg is good at putting his spin on things, isn't he? Didn't Brooklyn experience another bunch of shootings recently, like a few days ago?

I would never move to Brooklyn aka Crooklyn