A new noise code will go into effect tonight/tomorrow morning when the clock strikes midnight, and that clock better have muffled bells. It's the first comprehensive overhaul of noise ordinances in about 30 years and was proposed by Mayor Bloomberg three and a half years ago. It's mostly oriented towards bars and clubs, where a growing nightlife presence in neighborhoods like the Lower East Side has left many residents sleepless. The New York Times notes that noisy cars and motorcycles will be completely banned from the city, there will be a limit on how long dogs can bark continuously, garbage trucks will be required to stay at least 50 feet from residential buildings between 11 p.m. and 7 a.m., construction noise must be mitigated (Adrienne Shelley was killed for complaining about construction noise), and ice cream trucks will have to go quiet when parked curbside. We wonder if this will have any effect on the creative siren-DJ stylings emanating from police cars. Either way, enforcement of the new code may be spotty because the Dept. of Environmental Protection only has 26 noise meters. The police have 80.
The New York Post reports that the stricter noise regulations are worrying Mr. Softee truck owners and drivers, whose livelihood is ensured by the incessant jingling siren call that beckons kids on summer vacation to their trucks. The Post's story quotes one ice cream distributor who predicted that the jingle-ban could melt ice cream sales by 30%.
The full and official new 25 page noise code can be viewed at New York City's site here (pdf). We didn't see anything about banning upstairs neighbors from clomping around in what sound like wooden clogs on hardwood floors very early in the morning.
(Noise pollution, by dM.nyc at flickr)




What's next...no loud belching in the bleachers at Yankee Stadium?
>upstairs neighbors from clomping around in what sound like >wooden clogs on hardwood floors very early in the morning
Actually NY law requires carpet covering 80% of the floor area, excluding kitchen and bathrooms. So complain to your landlord or coop/condo board about your idiot upstairs neighbors, and cite the law.
wtf does Adrienne Shelley's death have to do with a new noise ordinance? are you aiming for a prize for the most linked articles? stringing together the most minimally related events to increase awareness (and hits) for archived posts?
the noise ordinance might affect ice cream trucks, ice cream trucks serve ice cream, you can buy ice cream at the shake shack == link!
does this mean cars that park and blasts their stereos can now be ticketed? Hallelujah!
This new noise policy seems absurd.
Garbage trucks 50 feet from residential means there will be more garbage pickup during the day when it will block cars and pedestrians alike. Garbage will be sitting on the sidewalk a bit more during the day (which isn't so good what with it being hot in the summer and all, and that can block sidewalks for pedestrians as well). Not to mention, fifty feet won't prevent someone who is sensitive from hearing/being woken by the garbage truck.
Of course, that's if the law is enforced.
I love the bit about limits on how long dogs can bark. Good luck reasoning with the dogs. But the other stuff makes sense to me. I was awakened early this morning by some jerk in one of the buildings adjacent to mine cranking mariachi music at unbelievable volume. That's just ridiculous. I'd love to have seen him get shut down. Not that any new ordinances are going to do anything - I'm not even sure how that would work.
Ice cream trucks are the devil. Never mind how infernally annoying their songs are - something nobody ever mentions is how polluting they are, idling and spewing exhaust.
Garbage pickup during the day doesn't sound bad - right now for some reason, the trash is picked up on my block at 2 am, very loudly, which must be very frustrating for the people whose bedrooms overlook the street. But how much impact will any of this have?
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Good!!! Those Mr.Softee trucks sell overpriced, unhealthy crap anyway. The trucks are also filthy inside.
At least fast food has some type of Protein. These Ice Cream Products from the Mr. Softee trucks are just coloric shit filled with trans fats.
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The Shake Shack?? Ha Ha, overpriced chi chi yuppie crap. You probably think that they imported organic milk or the high priced stuff from Whole Foods. Not much better than the Mr. Softee Crap I spoke about above.
How can you prove how long someone's dog has been barking?
I am totally getting out of this city at the right time. I should have gotten out when my rent in the EV went up over a grand.......
this is just insane. This city is going down the tubes and fast.
The city can come up with numerous ordinances - but how will they actually be enforced?
I live across the street from a rental car office. On the next block is a hospital. Directly in front of my building are signs that say "No Horn Blowing." When people return their cars on Sunday nights after a long weekend, there's lots of double-parking and a line of cars waiting to be returned. Traffic gets backed up all the way down the block. For some strange reason, drivers believe that leaning on their horns will make a difference. On a Sunday night, in a residential neighborhood, they are leaning on their horns. One does it, they all do it. I have run downstairs and yelled at the drivers, pointing out the "No Honking" sign to them. They usually react with surprise. After I go upstairs, they do it again.
Next to the rental care agency is a gym which is open until around 10pm. Many of its employees have friends come and pick them up after their shifts end, which is sometimes past 11pm or later. They sit outside in their cars and wait with their music blasting. Blasting! Then the gym has a truck come around and pick up huge bins of towels, using a lift-gate which makes an incredible amount of noise. The truck plays music and the workers often create traffic jams and argue (loudly) with drivers who want to pass. They used to come at 2 or 3am, but I complained so much (and I'm sure other of my neighbors have as well), that now they usually do it before 11pm. But it's not always the case. They spend about a half-hour doing this.
How about the bikers with their loud pipes in the summertime? They drive down my block to go to a bar around teh corner, and set off all the car alarms while doing so.
These events may not seem like much, and don't last long, but they are incredibly irritating and, over time, erode quality of life. I think the anti-noise ordinances appear on paper to be a good thing, but I sincerely doubt it will change anything. If I called the cops about a car honking their horn under my bedroom window, I'm sure they would laugh at me. Am I supposed to get their license plate numbers and file a complaint?
There's a neighbour a couple of buildings away that puts his stereo speakers on the window for all of us to enjoy his fucking music!!! What's up with him?!? Fortunately I don't live right in front of him... I'm sure this won't have any effect on Dominican or Puerto Rican neighborhoods... If you've been there (here), you know what I mean...
And the people with music so loud you can hear them from blocks away?!? Are they so deaf already because of the loud music, that they have to turn it much louder so they can hear it again?!? Morons!
So what can you do? I guess call the cops... and have your neighbors call the cops too... right?
mocanlagunas: You don't line on 10th street do you?
Ditto with #13.
How is anyone able to report neighbors who are too loud for their own good? Often you hear people who live doors or blocks away and you can still hear their inferno (i.e., car stereos, groups of teens) late at night...How much does backyard noise count, anyway?
I recently had to deal with a group of kids who had this "graduation" party (quotes because I wasn't sure, they certainly yelled about it, though), and they had the radio up all night at the backyard that disturbed the entire backyard community all the way until 4-ish, AM (obnoxious f***ers). Telling them to stop, 311 and calling the police station certainly didn't help; most neighbors probably didn't know how to approach it either, but it wasn't something to shrug off. How much effort are the police willing to go through in order to keep this law in check? To me, the law has already failed even before it goes in effect, and has me left disappointed.
Shouldn't the headline read: "NYC About to Become Just Like Every Other Sad Little Place in the World?"
"NYC About to Become Just Like Every Other Sad Little Place in the World?"
The reality is that thanks to globalization and the internet you can get the same crap in Kansas or New Mexico that you can get in New York. And the people are always nicer. New York has always been overrated. If it weren't the world class museums there would be no reason to visit. Even Broadway and the off-Broadway theater scene sucks now.
Speaking of noise regulation, has anyone ever gotten a ticket for honking their horn on a block with those "No honking, $350 fine" signs? I always thought they were pretty useless.
"The reality is that thanks to globalization and the internet you can get the same crap in Kansas or New Mexico that you can get in New York. And the people are always nicer. New York has always been overrated. If it weren't the world class museums there would be no reason to visit. Even Broadway and the off-Broadway theater scene sucks now."
New York was great because New Yorkers were great. They were tough, they could deal. They didn't whine about fucking ice cream trucks. This is just unenforceable legislation that cries out, "Waaaaaaaaaaaaah."
#19 hit the nail on the head.
The city has become a haven for the trust-fund, midwest, average Joe that feels that the world revolves around them.
All the grit and charachter that made this city great is all but gone. When you talk about Anywhere, USA, add NYC to the list.
Bring back Fireworks for everyone.
M80's for all. Blockbusters, too.
Swimming pools killed more kids than fireworks.
Hmm, actually, most lifelong New Yorkers will tell you how much more civilized (words of one of them, a friend of my mom's who grew up with her in the Bronx) it was back when they were growing up. This idea of the city as a gritty, tough place where only the strong survive is an out-of-towner's fantasy. We natives are just like anyone else - we don't like to be woken up by booming mariachi music in the early hours of Saturday morning. We gotta get our beauty sleep too, you know. Being a New Yorker doesn't mean you don't need sleep, and it doesn't mean you forfeit your right to a little peace and quiet in your own home.
That said, the next time those guys wake me up with their stupid tuba music, I'm putting the speakers in the window, cranking the Butthole Surfers, and leaving the house.
thank you #22
so sick of bullsh!t fake new yorkers trying to tell us what new york is "supposed" to be like
NYC was a MUCH MUCH more civilized place 20, 30 years ago
Well, I have only been here for 11 years out of my 29 on this earth...and I have to say I miss the olde days. When NY was full of NYers. It is the people that came here because of Friends and Sex and the City that make the need for these laws in the first place..
i know previous legislation or code failed in the past regarding car alarms - anything new with this ordinance? i was awaken in the middle of the night just last week by a car alarm (one that took more than just a minute or so to shut off, too). i can hear the BQE when i sleep with the windows open but it's a nicer, steady noise - not difficult to fall asleep with. but car alarms drive me crazy.
Oh this I got to see the cops enforce ! I tell you that Bloomberg guy is really going to change shit in this city one way or the other . The dogs barking thing is not going to work unless a preventative measure involves sedating the animal . Everything else is a semi-must in my opinion . Posted by; "Still Not Amused"