Gothamist: Extra, Extra

steveo

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 13:27:49 -0500

I think we agree, stupid. It doesn't really matter what state the carbon is generated in -- what matters is which state's residents are using it, since without the demand, it wouldn't be generated at all. (And, yes, living densely requires less energy per capita, so if we're talking about superior efficiency, New Yorkers have good reason to feel smug.)

Brightliner

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 12:38:39 -0500

No big deal, Dave. A simple "Oops. I goofed," would have sufficed. We're all human and Gothamist is often about just ragging on each other.

stupid stupid stupid

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:40:04 -0500

If the study makes any sense, it's based on per capita consumption of carbon-based energy of the individual residents, not on where it comes from. If you are using electricity generated from a polluting power plant you have totake some responsibility for the pollution. It's that simple. If Wyoming want to reduce its emissions they could simply cut the transmission lines out of the state and turn off the power plants. California would feel the plain, not Wyoming. Oil refining consumes lots of energy but there aren't any oil refineries in New York State that I am aware of. They are in New Jersey and Texas and Louisiana. Are there any steel plants in New York? How about alumnum smelters. This is another stupid study that New Yorkers are going twist to make themselves feel superior. w ww.casperstartribune.net/articles/2007/06/04/news/wyoming/ebff5af7c4298489872572ee007f33f3.txt

steveo

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:54:37 -0500

Poor reporting -- If the study makes any sense, it's based on per capita consumption of carbon-based energy of the individual residents, not on where it comes from. Can anyone find the original study? Because the Post piece does leave a lot of unanswered questions (like what are the 4 states which are "better"?). I'm a bit surprised that New York isn't the state with the smallest carbon footprint, considering how relatively little NYC residents drive, and how our dwelling spaces are much smaller and packed together for more efficient heating. (Something like half of the NYS population lives in NYC -- more or less.)

or perhaps

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 09:36:32 -0500

Body Guards: perhaps they should look at raising the salary of fresh recruits. I make more money answering phones than new cops do.

BODY GUARDS

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 05:12:00 -0500

NYPD recruiting only one third of its goal. Will they attempt to offer more incentives to keep patrolmen on the force about to retire, from doing so? Or will there be cutbacks in policing from certain projects and areas? Thankfully, NYC is experiencing its lowest point in crime rate in several decades, and strong economy.

DaveH

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 01:04:45 -0500

[2] Indeed we did. I accept all blame for the repeat, given that I was monitoring all the stories Friday. When I added that to Extra, Extra, Sunday, I though to myself "I could've sworn we've posted on this already," and I paged backwards until I found the Holland Tunnel bus post that we wrote yesterday. Occasionally, in the fog of blog with a good number of emails every day, all with links, and good story ideas, things get mixed up. Also, both stories we checked to make sure that story was fresher were dated 6/3, so we figured our recollections were mistaken. This is certainly a lame rationalization against a repeated link, but all I can do is apologize.

poor reporting

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 00:35:39 -0500

The Post got the greenhouse emission story almost completely wrong. Looking at individual states is almost completely meaningless because power generation and power consumption don't always happen in the same place. Wyoming produces lots of greenhouse gas emissions from coal fired power plants but it exports most of the electricity. Vermont has more people than Wyoming but produces far less gas - because they don't produce their own energy. Much of it is transmitted from Canada. And when Vermont's nuclear power plants are decommissioned, they are screwed. And as for New York, we have little power generation locally and we produce almost nothing that we consume from steel and cars to food and clothes. It's easy to consume little power if all you do is sit in a room trading securities.

Brightliner

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 23:55:30 -0500

Um, Dave, you do know Gothamist already covered the tractor-trailer story on Friday morning? www.gothamist.com/2007/06/01/guess_the_truck.php

Peter

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 19:06:36 -0500

Amputations? Weird.