Gothamist: How the Lower East Was Won, or Lost

baruch

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 17:51:35 -0500

ahem. you hear NO ONE going "oh yeah i live ON the LES.." the LES is a neighborhood that is named after where it is, on the lower east side of Manhattan. how about if you went I live ON the East Village, ON UES, ON Harlem, etc.. NO BITCH. you're wrong. and who the hell are you calling me a faker, cunt ass mothafuckka imma slit yo throat bitch

nyer

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 14:01:43 -0500

eyo im like mad how all these condos and shxt are rising and mad white ppl (no offense) are like thinkin they all cool and shxt cause they livin in the LES. they should try living in the REAL LES: the pjs.[12] Posted by: baruch | June 2, 2007 10:33 PM On the LES, faker.

SeatotheE

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 01:37:42 -0500

that hotel is completely out of sync with that particular street you'd have to see it to understand how ghastly that thing is. I don't know how anyone allowed it to be built- it defies logic.

Gwin

Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:25:28 -0500

storefront: yes, some Asians still live on Ludlow, but not many (same with Orchard). My building on lower Allen Street used to be 100% Chinese; now it's just 25% Chinese (I am not part of that percentage). The thing is, the building I live in is pretty crappy - and yet my rent has gone up $300 in the last three years. I would like to buy a place in the next 2 years or so, but even though "BelDel" is primarily lower-middle-class (due to the tenements, the housing projects and general lack of amenities), I won't be able to buy down here because it's either rental properties or newly-built luxury condos and co-ops. Again, it's greedy property owners who are to blame for that (and no, I am not a newly-arrived hipster adding to the problem).

baruch

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:33:01 -0500

storefront available

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 22:12:26 -0500

So that's the Misrahi of Misrahi Realty who's signs I see all over the place. wow, col. kurtz, TNT that's a blast from the eighties. Any Asians still live on Ludlow Street? Seward Park High School was the zone school. I think the juxtaposition term changed to the income gap. Like it's a small gap, we are all equal.

Giuseppe

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:00:16 -0500

This juxtapositon of rich and poor is nothing new here, especially in Manhattan (is this term used anymore?). Look at the housing projects near Lincoln Center and Chelsea - not to mention those east of Amsterdam on the UWS and north of E 96st.

Col. Kurtz

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 19:53:55 -0500

Point taken - I am just tired of drunk hipster shits and no - no one can say no to the stupid amount of $$$. No one owns real estate for altruistic purposes. Who are these people who buy these things? How can I get one of the jobs that pays me for my million dollar condo on Delancey St.? Oh, I forgot - it's their parents $$$

Literate

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 18:45:20 -0500

Uh, you guys missed the point. "Little hipster shits" can't move mountains; they're too drunk, anyway. Place your blame on the building owners who sell their buildings to Misrahi or luxury developers, because they love money more than anything. The drunks and meatheads are merely the symptom. The cause is GREED. Speaking of greed--the Astroland people? They could've said "no." Really. Read this, and tell me that someone can't simply say "no" when having millions dangled in front of their face: www.nzherald.co.nz/section/3/story.cfm?c_id=3&ObjectID=10403945

Col. Kurtz

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 17:59:14 -0500

Pianos used to sell pianos. Children played in the streets and there was credit at the bodegas. I knew my neighbors (3 were at my wedding). Regular Tactical Narcotics Team busts. My aprtment had been a shooting gallery one tenant before me. I could afford it and no one ever made me feel unwelcome. Ludlow Street was my first adult home. Little hipster shits ruined it all to have an alcoholic theme park.

aggmo

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:11:23 -0500

Wow...thanks for this. I remember a girlfriend of mine who had an apartment on Rivington...tons of roaches, scary halls, and scary streets downstairs. But it was only $94 a month. This was 1977 or so.

segregation celebration

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 15:19:04 -0500

Only thing is, the hispanics and the poor live in housing projects all along the LES. You don't see many poor living in the tenements proper of the LES anymore. The tenements of immigrants and of historic nature. I remember hanging out in the roofs of those tenements dropping M80's down the shaftway. should of seen the look of the transplants from the next building look at us. can't do nuthin because my friend was on the job.

JAS

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:46:25 -0500

It seems that the LES is two seperate entities. You have your super-rich whites and your super-poor hispanics occupying the same stretch of land. It's really bewildering to see such unbelievable decadence and delapidation sitting shoulder to shoulder with one another. It's like super williamsburg.

downtrodden and tired

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:06:18 -0500

The dam broke when the longtime Lower East Side artist space Collective Unconscious was forced to leave Ludlow Street three years ago. There is a noticeable "before" and "after."

hew town

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 13:17:14 -0500

any mention of how the Essex market is becoming smaller and smaller every year with less vendors? any mention of who used to be the customers of the market and where are they now? sorry but the area is still dingier.

will.xls

Sat, 02 Jun 2007 11:16:04 -0500

These good times we live in will not last. It is an unfortunate truth. A friend lives in a studio that was created when a luxury hotel room from the 1920's was cleaved into four parts during the depression. Feast now, the dingier everything is just around the corner.