Gothamist: Triple-Murder, Suicide In Cambria Heights

Charles Grlock

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:42:46 -0500

#7, orders of protection are not easy to get. You need a lawyer, and you need to spend time in court. Also, even if an order of protection exists, actually getting the police to enforce it is nearly impossible. It's not something you can just go down to the DMV and take care of in a few hours.

pat

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:27:34 -0500

If he was such a danger to her and feared for her life, why didn't she take out an order of protection against him??

Samantha T

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:10:20 -0500

"when will people stop expecting authorities - doctors, cops, judges - to be able to see the future?" The woman called the police at least three times about her son! Doesn't take a huge leap to see what could very well happen. Unreal. The police could also simply have stopped by to see what was up - there's lots they can do short of arresting somebody.

dhex

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:34:18 -0500

and if we could magically make all weapons disappear everyone would love one another. in all seriousness, the denial of agency and personal responsibility is just as dangerous as an inflated sense of ability. or even perhaps moreso, as it invites governmental overreach and invasion into our private lives because everyone expects someone else to be responsible. it's like a societal-level version of the bystander effect.

Ben

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:20:11 -0500

Ha, well you know if all the victims were armed this wouldn't have happened. One of them would have shot the perp dead. =p

Jen Chung

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:05:14 -0500

I think both incidents show the difficulties is trying to get mental health treatment for people. Sigh, it's such a tragic story.

dhex

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:02:35 -0500

when will people stop expecting authorities - doctors, cops, judges - to be able to see the future? for every crazed gunman, for every murder-suicide, there are hundreds of people who fit the profile but won't ever actually hurt anyone.

Charles Grlock

Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:52:07 -0500

This is another sad case where the authorities ignored violence towards women and a brutal murder spree occurs. Memories of VT? When will the police ever take domestic violence seriously?