Gothamist: "What A Dangerous Man"

Still Not Amused

Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:25:29 -0500

Oh, & thanks for the Play by Play #[16] . Always enjoy my work being cataloged !

Still Not Amused

Tue, 03 Apr 2007 18:23:25 -0500

#[16] That's my point ! In the past the police exam was criticized by "Various Groups" as being to tough, Not representing of all those taking the exam . Look at what happened with the FDNY ? They were criticized for decades that they were unfairly omitting Minorities . They said the same thing that the test was unfair, That they didn't want Minorities too be able to take the exam . (In reality it's not the FDNY's problem if you can lift your own body weight)So what did the FDNY do, They rewrote their exam and aggressively recruited more minorities . The result, The bitches complained that the exam wasn't up to standard . That some of the questions were odd, and inappropriate . [2] Yes I feel that the way to stop all the unnecessary shootings is to severely limit the number of bad candidates the NYPD hires . These people are being trusted too guard your safety, Wouldn't you want to know that the cop patrolling the block is competent in their ability too do the job ? [3] As far as the shootings, What rock have you been hiding under ? What you think the Sean Bell shooting was the only police shooting in the five boroughs ! I was referring too all police shootings within the last twenty years or so . You don't have to be a cop to understand that it's one of the hardest jobs in the world . It takes a special individual to be a cop . I just want the best possible person to carry the authority . We don't need someone with a fragile psyche, Or an insecure jerk that in high school was a bully . We need really people to be cops, Not someone that couldn't cut it in whatever job they had prior to law enforcement !

no_slappz

Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:55:51 -0500

Still Not Amused, you wrote: "Maybe if some people in this State that complained the Police Dept. was being to strict with there hiring practices had actually taken the test, Maybe things like this wouldn't happen." Too strict? You've got to be kidding. What's strict about hiring for the Police Department? If there's any problem it's that hiring standards are too loose. But it's tough to find enough people to join the force. Standards have gone down for years. To boost the percentage of blacks and hispanics on the force the academic standards have been lowered. The NYPD is also willing to overlook a history of juvenile delinquency. If the standards go much lower, the NYPD will start recruitment efforts among people recently released from jail -- if they're still young enough to join the force. You said: "Personally, Everyone the files for the exam to be a cop should be subject to random psychological exams for the duration of there time as cops." Cops are members of a union. You'll have to fight the union, not the leadership of the NYPD, if you want to see this change occur. You dreamed: "All of these shooting could have been avoided if these burnt out/ Emotionally disturbed cops were put on leave to get their heads together." All what shootings?

no_slappz

Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:45:29 -0500

James, you asked: "Should a police officer ever have to face consequences for his/her mistake?" Cops do face "consequences" for their mistakes. Cops also belong to a union. Meanwhile, cops seldom shoot anyone. How often are innocent people killed by cops? In the cases of death, how often are the victims killed by gunfire? There's always room for improvement, but cops rarely kill anyone. If you want to know the ways in which cops perturb citizens, check statistics from the Civilian Complaint Revew Board. You asked: "What do you think should happen to the officers in this case?" Obviously the Grand Jury understands there are differences in the culpability of each cop at the scene of the Bell shooting. Moreover, the new witness, who claims there was another shooter at the scene, appears to be credible. Therefore, NOTHING about the shooting incident is known beyond a shadow of a doubt except for which cop's bullets hit each civilian. But you can be sure none of the cops went on duty that night hoping to kill someone. State of mind counts for a lot in a criminal investigation and trial.

l0b0t

Mon, 02 Apr 2007 22:39:39 -0500

To poster Heyo. He fired 31 shots, that means he emptied his magazine, reloaded, and kept firing. Please learn something about proper firearms training before gainsaying others.

Heiyo

Mon, 02 Apr 2007 18:47:57 -0500

To poster l0b0t : Oliver fired at all three suspects, not just Sean Bell who was shot 3 TIMES ONLY. Read the indictment before spouting off.

Still Not Amused

Mon, 02 Apr 2007 17:53:50 -0500

Too all that have something extra to say about this clown . Maybe if some people in this State that complained the Police Dept. was being to strict with there hiring practices had actually taken the test, Maybe things like this wouldn't happen . Personally, Everyone the files for the exam to be a cop should be subject to random psychological exams for the duration of there time as cops . I know it's a stressful job and all, Which is why they should be tested randomly . All of these shooting could have been avoided if these burnt out/ Emotionally disturbed cops were put on leave to get their heads together . Alast, That's something that will never happen .

James

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:39:26 -0500

Jared, Okay. Point taken. Should a police officer ever have to face consequences for his/her mistake? What do you think should happen to the officers in this case?

In the know

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 20:17:34 -0500

You people have only seen the tip of the iceberg. If you're going to completely villify someone, make sure you do a thorough job. I heard that he singlehandedly planned and executed the anthrax attacks in 2001 and is also the grafitti artist know as the splasher. Furthermore, there is a rumor he was involved in the kidnapping of the Lindberg baby.

not da blo jobb again

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 17:44:40 -0500

Oh please, it's just a JOB. No one put a gun to their head to take it. This guy was a high school drop out, heavy partier, bully. Being a cop was his only option. And, he took a job in the City. Many people in this city make less than $25K and no benefits. If you add in all the benefits, the annual salary is MUCH MUCH more than $26K.

edEx

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:48:56 -0500

Regardless of his past, none of it will come into play in the courtroom unless Oliver testisfy's, which is unlikely.

jared

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:47:51 -0500

I find intresting that we seem to hold cops to some superhuman standard/....but I bet nobody here has ever been in that position/ have u ever been in a situation where a car was trying to run you over,,,have u ever shot at it? does a mistake at your job cause somebody's life? it's a hard job mistakes are made, cops are human, but when mistakes do happen they are called subhuman. Continue paying cops 25K and expect to see even more mistakes happen, continue to categorize those who make mistakes as monsters and murderers guess what...eventually that's what you'll get cuse no decent human being will want to work in the city. :)

Rickster

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 16:39:26 -0500

To make it more balanced they should interview his mommy and let her reveal he tortured defenseless animals

Migs

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:19:05 -0500

a: I don't see anything wrong with balancing a news story, for in a situation like this, even when properly balanced, he's not gonna look good. If the article paints him as a crazy, then there is nothing wrong with reporting that the article does that. I find it funny that the daily news put so much effort into the negativity that is there without them. Also, I think its important to note that people with anger problems do exist... what to do?

Peter

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:18:43 -0500

two words come to mind...douche and bag

a

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:11:25 -0500

Why are the Gothamist editors trying to balance this news story - he murdered someone - he's obviously a violent person

bums rush

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 13:38:59 -0500

Cops always do that. I remember seeing a cop the size of a linebacker in a subway station getting a running start to knock this guy down. and, in a recent incident, a cop shoved a vendor so hard against a restaurant front glass that it shattered. Someone should knock that smirk off his face. that's not a good PR photo for the NYPD.

l0b0t

Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:49:52 -0500

I've said it before and I'll say it again. He fired 31 shots to subdue 1 suspect. That kind of incompetent assholery needs to be prosecuted. These Keystone Cops need to be jailed and the entire pistol training cadre at the NYPD should be fired. That kind of "spray and pray" shooting should not be tolerated from our police force.