Ladies and gentlemen, let us design a new game called "Catch the College Republicans." President Bush wants a surge in troop levels in Iraq, right? Let us round these clowns, give them each weapons, men and women alike, and send them to Iraq to fight for the country. The nation's College Republicans can keep us supplied with troops for surge six or seven times larger.

What are these College Republicans doing in NYC, wasting time on silly games? Don't they support their pResident?? Don't they realize there is a WAR ON TERROR happening right before their eyes?!! Get thee to Iraq, pronto!!

"The last time a college Republican organization tried to have an open dialogue about illegal immigration, liberal maniacs stormed the stage."

independent Said:

SD, so you're basically saying your side is no better than the Republicans. Thought so. Thanks!

"Your Side"? What side would that be? Feel free to continue to make ignorant assumptions as to my "side"...

Despite what many people on both "sides" think, Illegal Immigration is not a simple black and white issue. At the least, it requires dialog and compromise which all parties seem to be lacking.

To put it mildly, this "Hunt the Illegal Alien" nonsense, oversimplifies the issue and paints a misleading portrait of Illegal Aliens. You hunt animals, not people, but these College Republicans seem to have no problem lowering their fellow human beings to the level of dumb animals. Nice way to demonstrate "Family Values".

So basically, from your comment, you seem to think this is a Simple Black and White Issue. Thought so. Thanks!

Ironically, the conservative former Governor of New York and possible presidential candidate admited his Grandmother from Hungary was an illegal immigrant

http://www.indypressny.org/article.php3?ArticleID=3085

Republicans? Democrats? YOU'RE BOTH DICKHEADS!!!!!!!

The person who was the most violent at the Columbia/Minutemen incident was actually someone who was WITH the Minutemen, and not the student groups who were protesting them.

#56 Frank Burns: What the hell is your problem? The left wing protestors are just as spoiled as the Republican students. I hate people like you that think your shit doesn't stink, too. Go live in a third world country? What the fuck does that have to do with anything? I'd like to go live in London but they have laws that say I can't just move there by choice. I'd have to be sponsored by a company. Rules are rules. If you want to change the rules make a fucking suggestion that is plausible. Counter-protesting is good for about five minutes. You can't keep running against things forever. Sooner or later you have to lead.

The game didn't have many participants,

they charge $50 per entry. That cuts into the beer fund for St. Patrick's day.

Gotta know your priorities.

The solution? Make them legal. Then they are legal immigrants, and both sides like them, right? End of issue. I say let them come -- foreigners add life and culture to a real wasteland of spoiled brats like that insipid looking girl republican student president that organized it. Get real -- go live in a third world country for a year instead of getting bankrolled by your republican daddy at NYU, learn about real life, and maybe you could finally see how disgusting you are. You stink, like rotten flesh, and deodorant will not help you.

"The problem with young, smug republicans is that their "activism" comes not from the heart, but from a series of hate-filled nooks and crannies within the heart."

Do you have any idea how much a comment like this makes you sound like a total fanboy activist parrot? Take the time to concoct an original thought that doesn't sound like bad dialogue from Lord of the Rings.

The NYU college republics are generally inflamatory and should probably be ignored.

To their defense, they do exist in a rather 'liberal' university and therefore almost have to be inflamatory to get their point across.

For example, a year or two ago, they had a booth out for the club fair where they sold cookies -- with differential pricing depending on your race and gender (the minorities/women got the cheaper cookies) to try to bring a debate up about affirmative action. Now, I'm not saying that was smart, or right and I certainly don't agree with the METHOD (here or with this new example) but in a way, its the only way they can get their point across.

I don’t have time for this shit.

I have strawberries that need to be picked.

Ah, the "jobs Americans don't want to do" argument.

When the government raided the Swift Premium sausage plant and the company was forced to get rid of its illegal immigrant workers and rehire, there was a long, long line of legally-employable people applying for the jobs. How about the line for Hershey's Times Square store?

Think about it this way - almost anyone will do any job if you pay them enough. What's your price? If you're not supposed to be here and someone can pull out the deportation card anytime you complain, you will shut up real fast and take what you can get.

For instance, take scraping gum off a sidewalk, a task not requiring much skill. Do you think many Americans want to come to work and do that job? Probably not. But if that job is with the MTA scraping gum off the subway platform, you can bet people will clamor for the job, since it's a unionized gig with steady raises, nice benefits and a pension plan.

And it's a fallacy that illegal immigrants get paid much less then minimum wage. On Long Island, the going rate for a day laborer working for a landscaper is $100/day. It's cheap for the landscaper because he gets paid in cash and does haven't to pay payroll taxes on the worker's wages, and also isn't a risk for worker's comp if the guy gets injured on the job. Another article during last May's illegal immigrant rallies profiled a woman who worked in a Manhattan deli for $7.

The reason why the illegal immigrants get work is because there's no incentive for some (lazy) Americans to go to work for $7 an hour if they can just get welfare, Section 8 housing, food stamps, etc. instead. It will be interesting to see what dynamics will change if an increase in the minimum wage is implemented.

It's all relative. Illegal immigrants think they are getting a good deal, when they are really just getting EXPLOITED! And shame on the people who exploit them and benefit for their exploitation, including you and me.

Just like there was an organic food movement, there should be anti-exploitation movement for goods and services, although right now I don't think I would be able to buy anything. But if you offered it, some people would pay extra.

Don't they mean "Republican'ts"?

Can't lead,

can't govern,

can't balance the budget,

can't keep a single campaign promise,

can't find Ossama binLaden,

can't decide which reason for going to war is the real reason,

can't take responsibility without saying: "But, Clinton..."

can't adequaltely armor our troops,

can't elect a President who's not an idiot...

The list goes on and on. They childishly say "Democrat Party", I say "Republican't", and boy, do they get pissed off.

Can't hear "Republican'ts" without getting angry.

This shows once again that "compassionate conservative" is an oxymoron.

Mihow,

What can be done is to stop Illegal immigrants AND bust the people who employ them.

all this free market comparison is unsupported by logic. Tax dollars are expended to care for illegals and fund a welfare state that keeps idle individuals who could work jobs held by illegals. Both live lives of subterranean indignity. We need to tend our own garden to the exclusion of most others. Our largess is all that keeps this issue from the laughable category.

from Carnegie's "Gospel of Wealth":

One man or woman who succeeds in living comfortably by begging is more dangerous to society, and a greater obstacle to the progress of humanity, than a score of wordy socialists.

Marci,

Your suggestion is incongruent with my point and somewhat immature. You see my point was that there are americans who are available to do those jobs but can't because they are priced out.

owellian,

who says I'm left-wing... far from it. I was actaully responding to someone who asked me if it was wrong to pay less for something. The use of china and wal-mart was an expample of how it may be wrong to do so in certain circumstances. We DO have to think about the consequences of our actions. My position is Anti ILLEGAL immigration AND Anti Free Trade. You see those two ideas happen to stand on opposite sides of a traditional political spectrum because I actually think.