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Columbia students and faculty walked out of classes to rally and march against the war in Iraq. In fact, the Columbia Coalition Against the War called the protest a "strike" and asked professors "to either cancel or allow students to miss class unpunished" so students would be able to participate, according to the Columbia Spectator. The group did request a police permit for 200 people, but expected up to 600 people.
Many students support the strike, although some question what purpose the strike is serving, but Student Governing Board Chair Sakib Khan relayed one atagonistic incident:
"David Judd, Samantha Stanton, and I dorm-stormed Carman [residence hall] on Sunday night. We finished by 7:35 and I had some extra fliers so we're standing outside Carman, handing them out to passer-bys. I extended my arm, holding a flier, to a 6-foot-4-inch Caucasian male wearing a gray hoodie and said 'strike against the war.' He slapped the flier out of my hand, pushed me in the chest and then pushed me in the face. The desk guard at Carman saw the whole thing but thought he [the aggressor] was a friend of mine screwing around."The Spectator also had an opinion piece about why students should strike. Other colleges and universities also had walk outs and rallies protesting the war today.
Photograph of the walk-out protest at Columbia by Frank Franklin II/AP
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oh my god...a college student pushed another one and slapped the flier out of his hand!?! get this to the media pronto!
ok, so a dude pushed you...why are you "striking"?
When I was at NYU, people tried to organize these "strikes" all the time. What I don't understand is, how does a student strike do anything? You're only affecting yourselves. The professors get paid whether or not you show up. No services are disrupted. No shortages are created. As much as I am against this police action in Iraq, you're not striking, you're protesting.
If a professor of mine cancelled a class I was in to march against the war I'd demand a refund of that portion of my tuition from Columbia. Might not be much, but it's still my money they are using to pursue their own private politics.
WOW, CU still has those tough guys. I remember their losing streak in the eighties and they were still acting like tough guys.
Should of taken out your camera phone and work in pairs or Fox OC him. Tough guys don't fare well with OC spray.
Yes, "striking against the war" several years after the fact.
Really gets the point across.
Of course, we could always have more of those animals we're fighting over there come here instead.
That'd work, right? And it's also a good thing many of the things that have changed for the better over in Iraq and Afghanistan hardly ever gets any press time. American casualties make for better "news" than anything else, huh?
I was in Butler Library today (CU's main library) and a funny thing happened five minutes before the scheduled start of the protest right outside -- the fire alarm went off and the building was evacuated. I've spent MANY days in that library and have never experienced a fire alarm. Is this just a coincidence? Hmmmmmmm.
[4] Posted by: kende
..and you'd be running off to Canada if there was a draft then whose "Private" politics would they be?
The guy shouldn't have physically touched the protester but considering the insults these types usually hurl at you when you ignore them I think the moral outrage is a bit much.
I got insulted by a bunch of do-gooder college Democrats in 2004 when I wouldn't give them money on the streets on midtown. I was already going to vote for Kerry and they really turned me off from doing much more than that. I have a policy of not giving money to people on the street. How do I know where it's really going?
#4, it would likely be your parents' money, not yours. Does mom and pop agree with your politics, too?
Are they marching to stop the civil war in Iraq?..wouldn't we would all like that.
Unless terrorists bomb the private equity funds in Connecticut that they will work at/marry into those CU kids are going to be just fine.
This protest was ridiculous. I talked to some of the people involved, and none of them know anything about what they are protesting. This quote from the president of the Veterans of Columbia (quoted in today's Spectator) sums the problem with the protesters up magnificently:
"[The protester's aims are] very vague to me," he said. "It's important that we be more specific about what we're advocating for. Everybody wants to end the war, they're not exactly clear about how they're advocating ending the war. ... they have a responsibility [to make their position more clear]. It's not productive for people to just advocate for these very vague notions."
That's precisely it - everybody wants to end the war, and these people are just like everybody else - they have no idea how to do it, but they will stand outside with signs no matter for what cause as long as they get publicity for there commie causes. If you talk to these completely ignorant commies and socialists, they start to shake and tremble in fear at a simple question like "How do you think the war could be brought to an end?". It's really rather sad. These people bring Columbia to shame.
squidfly, if there -were- a draft, you mean. and a draft is -almost- as likely as a war against reanimated dinosaurs.
as usual, counterproductive.
squidfly - despite rangel's antics, a draft isn't exactly likely.
Strike against war... read: Excuse to skip class.
Not that I mind protesting. Heck even if I didn't agree with them I wouldn't mind the protesting. What I mind is bothering students, disrupting the campus, and getting in people's way when none of them did anything wrong. Or is Dick Cheney living in Low Library Now?
If your going to protest, for goodness sake go to DC where someone important might actually hear you.
Protesting on campus is just a self congratulatory slap on the back for some perceived (and completely undeserved) sense of moral superiority.
"Oh look at us, we're protesting the war" Stop talking about it and go DO SOMETHING about it.
(Personally I'd suggest more Columbia students become military officers so that, eventually, the those Colonels and Generals who advise the president will come from Columbia rather than Central Michigan, or Bob Jones U...just an idea...)
Strike against war... read: Excuse to skip class.
Not that I mind protesting. Heck even if I didn't agree with them I wouldn't mind the protesting. What I mind is bothering students, disrupting the campus, and getting in people's way when none of them did anything wrong. Or is Dick Cheney living in Low Library Now?
If your going to protest, for goodness sake go to DC where someone important might actually hear you.
Protesting on campus is just a self congratulatory slap on the back for some perceived (and completely undeserved) sense of moral superiority.
"Oh look at us, we're protesting the war" Stop talking about it and go DO SOMETHING about it.
(Personally I'd suggest more Columbia students become military officers so that, eventually, the those Colonels and Generals who advise the president will come from Columbia rather than Central Michigan, or Bob Jones U...just an idea...)
squidfly: Draft isn't coming back no matter how much Rangel wants it. I wouldn't be running off to Canada if there were one. Surprised you haven't run north of the border already. Good way to totally ignore the substance of an argument. Whatever money paid for your tuition it sure was well spent.
#10: Father is dead, mother might as well be. So no, that would be my money, not my parents or anyone elses. Go ahead, turn that into raw material for another snarky trolling response. It suits you I'm sure.
Point being, the professors are wasting the money of the students whose classes they are cancelling. Whether it's the students paying their own tuition, their parents, or the taxpayers through financial aid, it's the same waste. The professors can shout to the mountaintops about their politics (even if it is 4 years late) on their own time and their own dime.
Oooh, a war-protest at an Ivy League university. How gloriously edgy!
2003 called, it wants its entitled brat feel-good strike back.
why are they striking against the war? this war is awesome! All the midwestern children are dying. You know the children of the fucknuts who voted for bush. They wanted it, they got it.
dear gothamist llc,
please make your comments section in other ist sites actually work before tackling "the big issues."
-matty
p.s you people are lazy and have other people do work for you for free and you can't even get an mt blog working correctly.
oh hey shitheads who rag on the midwest - you have equally as many illiterate goomba piece of shit long islanders/NJers/Bronx/Harlem people dying out there as we do. go fuck yourselves, you're nothing special and new yorkers die just as easily as cow huggers.
love,
chicago.
seriously, this shit is pissing me off. New York was the impetus for Iraq, tragic as it was, yet New Yorkers blame the midwest for its problems. You have had at least 2 consecutive REPUBLICAN mayors in office - yet you call yourself jewish - and somehow it's the midwest's fault. I get the feeling half the people who post about the midwest are from here and hate their frathead older brothers so they hate on it.
We are the heart of the nation, we are not the dirt evangelistic south you might be confusing us with, we are boring christians, consistently democratic and were once the industrial mainstay of the nation.
Yeah, so you know, f all of you and all that. Quit blaming us for your bullshit problems that you fucking started. Dipshits.
my 4 years at columbia proved to me that every time a bunch of ivy league kids stand in the cold with oak tag handing out flyers it really does make a huge difference
my 4 years at columbia proved to me that every time a bunch of ivy league kids stand in the cold with oak tag handing out flyers it really does make a huge difference
Personally I'd suggest more Columbia students become military officers so that, eventually, the those Colonels and Generals who advise the president will come from Columbia rather than Central Michigan, or Bob Jones U...just an idea...)
And here I thought the generals came from Weat Point. And too bad half the Ivy League bans ROTC. Freedom of speech and academia and assembly indeed.
"...you're nothing special and new yorkers die just as easily as cow huggers.
love,
chicago."
We ALL die easily but you yokles from Chicago squeal like PIGS while doin' it.
love,
NYC
"...you're nothing special and new yorkers die just as easily as cow huggers.
love,
chicago."
We ALL die easily but you yokles from Chicago squeal like PIGS while doin' it.
love,
NYC
"...you're nothing special and new yorkers die just as easily as cow huggers.
love,
chicago."
We ALL die easily but you yokles from Chicago squeal like PIGS while doin' it.
love,
NYC
Stupid self-absorbed baby boomer's kids think it is some kind of rite of passage to protest. I don't understand how this war affects them.
No one really cares if Columbia students strike. Why not just take the rest of the semester off? Better yet, go volunteer in Darfur or something.
Interesting about the divestment; why not ban investments in companies that make tobacco products, recreational firearms, soda, managed health care, Jennifer Lopez CDs, fast food, gasoline, pornography, candy, credit cards, video games, alcohol, and any for-profit drug company. Someone in the world and at least one Columbia student must think that all of these products are either immoral or hurtful too.
In fact, why doesn't Columbia just secede from the U.S? They can tell the world that since they are against war and fully embrace pacifism, they will be helpless should anyone decide to attack them. Within a year, it would be overrun by Muslim fundamentalists and its students would be wearing burkas or sticking their ass up in the air to pray 5 times a day. And they will only be allowed to read the Koran. Then they call all live in the empty library and have as many children as possible since abortions and birth control won't be legal.
Better yet, the civil liberties-obsessed hypocrite a**hole protestors pulled fire alarms in FIVE buildings just before the protest yesterday. In other words, just in case you wanted to go to CLASS or to the LIBRARY instead of attending their protest, you couldn't. Thanks, jerks. I feel so much more empathy for your struggle now that my right to LEARN was deemed secondary to your right to stand on a soapbox in the snow.
PS: Bush doesn't care if you skip out on your Comparative Ethnic Studies class.
matty - NYC was not the impetus for Iraq. 9/11 preceded the war with Afghanistan - the Iraq segway was political misdirection. And if you look back on footage of NYC gatherings around 2001, there were many vocal protests about letting 9/11 be impetus for war.
Two consecutive Republican mayors - one of whom switched parties before the election to run in a less crowded field, and the other who is considered a moderate on the national scale (pro-choice, etc.).
I certainly do not consider myself Jewish, nor do I think "we" as a city consider ourselves Jewish. One of the joys of NYC is it's not any particular ethnicity, it's everything. So hock mir nisht kein chainik.
Dear New York,
Something to think about before you start going all self-righteous on the city of Chicago:
Which city has the Scrooge McDuck billionaire Republican mayor, and which city has a Democratic machine instead?
Which city does Barack Obama represent?
Yeah but where did Obama get his degree?
Yeah thats right... COLUMBIA! :-p
As for number 27:
Some Generals come from West Point. Some come from the state schools. Either way neither my Alma Mater nor any of the other Ivies seem to be producing many (though I do personally know of 3 Columbia grad Generals in the Army Medical Corps...) Still...whether the Ivies ban ROTC or not, students there can still become officers. I did it. I know tons of others who did too.
THEY WANT THE US OUT OF IRAQ? Great! Then they need to get of their asses and come join the Army, and show President Bush what hes doing wrong and how to fix it.