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When a Band Name Is Also Considered a Slur

2007_02_ccsprot.jpgLast right, NYU's Asian Heritage Club protested the selection of a Valentine's Day concert band whose name is The Ching Chong Song. NYU junior and AHC member Frederick Wong told the Washington Square News that 20 students had gathered for the protest because "The name, Ching Chong Song, did not really relate to any of the lyrics in their songs. So we thought it was completely unnecessary to have a racist name."

The band apologized to the student group and said they would be called "Church of Lurch." While Ching Chong Song/Church of Lurch band members said they didn't know it was a racist slur, the band had caused a controversy when they were scheduled to play Bryn Mawr last year. Bryn Mawr students protested and their appearance was canceled. Band member Julia LaMendola wrote this letter to the Bryn Mawr's college paper:

If we allow the things that we question to fuel anger, guilt, jealousy, hate, or revenge, then we are dismissing layers of truth. Growing up a child of a gay parent in a tiny town, a poor second-generation Italian girl, I also have experience with the nuances of language. And give me a break you stupid twats.

Let’s not use misunderstanding as armor against the complicated nature of life. Don’t polarize shit when there are so many shades of sexuality and ethnicity to appreciate. I am mad that I was asked to back out, just another way the small-scale mirrors the large-scale of “shut-your-mouth-you’re-scaring-me” tactics are infiltrating our f’d up sweet spunky youth. By the way, “ching chang chong” is what people in Germany call the game rock paper scissors, and stupid petty retards is what I’m calling you.

Bi-College News (the paper for Bryn Mawr and Haverford) managing editor Andrea Milne wrote an opinion piece titled "Ching Chong, this Witch is Dead; Or, Why the Bi-Co Had to Publish an Offensive Letter to the Editor," that explained,"I didn’t publish the letter because I agree with Ching Chong Song; I published it because I want that letter it to become the biggest public relations nightmare this band will ever see." Well, even though NYU Program Board chair David Kinniburgh knew of the cancellation, he still booked the band because its music is "full of love." Kinniburgh did meet with the AHC to listen to their complaints.

Apparently the band is only changing its name now because of the complaints - we guess they don't watch the View! And a tangential blast from the past: City employee David Langlieb was skewered when he wrote a "satire" about Greenpoint for the Haverford Alumni magazine.

Photograph from the Washington Square News

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  • GHYardy

    >>perryair is absolutely correct. names can only hurt if you asign too much meaning to them. the best way to disarm a racist is to laugh at their stupidity. whining about how much their words hurt you only gives more tools for them to manipulate you.

    You don't "assign" meaning stupid. Asking someone of a racial group not to be offended by a slur toward his groups is about as stupid as me asking you not to think of a white bear by telling to "not think of a white bear."

  • crackersaretrash

    crackers are at it again. is it any wonder that the african slave trade, genocide of the native americans, nazi germany, imperialism, aparteid, jim crow, etc etc all happened to be perpetrated by these subhumans?

  • ECHO

    Liu should just chill out. sometimes mandarin/cantonese SOUNDS like that to me and i speak mandarin also. is he that insecure of how others may still perceive the asian language ?

  • ching this

    perryair is clearly chinese-american and not chinese. Probably born here, probably wore Abercrombie in high school, probably thinks she's white.

    Some of the posters on this thread should form a band and call it the Polyphonic Faggots.

  • otomboy

    garbage man,

    "perryair is absolutely correct. names can only hurt if you asign too much meaning to them. the best way to disarm a racist is to laugh at their stupidity."

    I can't help assigning a meaning to ching chong, just as black people can't help assigning a meaning to nigger. Would you really tell your black friend to disarm a rascist by laughing? or "stop whining about how much their words hurt you, it only gives more tools for them to manipulate you"

    I think your friend would politely say to you "are you a moron?"

  • nyc_dp

    Years ago, I remember the Italian community being offended by an ad that showed Italian women to be either very beautiful or very haggardly old and ugly. No inbetweens. As a non-Italian I can see how that ad was offensible. So come-on people, ching chong song IS offensible.

    When minorities of color voice discontent over these subtle yet provocative slurs, jokes, mishaps, etc, there's a leaning towards belittling or downright ridiculing their concerns (as is the case here). This is not right, and certainly not something you respond with "a laugh".



  • laughing won't make you white

    Wrong, laughing means acceptance. No other race would accept it, why Asians?

    sorry ole boy, laughing won't get you into the club.

    I believe otomboy was making fun of giggle boy and giggle boy was accepting the slurs given to him like a pig to slop.

  • garbage man

    perryair is absolutely correct. names can only hurt if you asign too much meaning to them. the best way to disarm a racist is to laugh at their stupidity. whining about how much their words hurt you only gives more tools for them to manipulate you.

    anyway otomboy, did you really want to give your money to a racist deli? at least you know now.

  • hmmm

    coincidentally, david langlieb used to be the editor of the bi-co newspaper when he attended haverford.

  • red drum

    I can't believe perryair mentioned sarah silverman.

    Now I know the Chinese are doomed if they like her.

    you're unoriginal and you're not white, mr. perryair. and, for spite, God or whomever will make your offsprings have the tinyest eyes ever.

    Ever notice how the one's who shun their heritage get's the tinyest eyes, where the mainlanders have larger eyes. That's kharma. and, if you really do giggle when people call you that, that's pretty sad.

    konichiwa perryair.

  • otomboy

    perryair at the deli

    perryair: hi can i get a ham samwich?

    deliman: ching chong chong?

    perryair: giggle that sounds funny... can i get my ham samwich?

    deliman: ching ching... chong chong?

    perryair: dude i'm speaking english

    deliman: ching, getthefuckoutofmystore chong?

    perryair: Is that the best thing that you could come up with? really?

    deliman: sayanora!

    perryair: ...

    Walks down the street and sees a flyer: "TONIGHT ONLY, CHING CHONG SONG!!"



    You're right perryair that was "Harmless. Language, like knowledge, can only be used to hurt when it is bottled up and made 'taboo'".

  • perryair

    I think everyone needs to watch some Sarah Silverman stand-up and calm down. I'm chinese and my first repsonse was to giggle at the fact that a band named themselves ching chong song.

    I mean, just think of the usage of 'ching chong' as an actual racial slur:

    1) just plain sounds funny

    2) oooh, why don't you prove to me how sheltered you are that you don't understand the language pattern of a full 20% of the world population?

    3) Is that the best thing that you could come up with? really?

    See? Harmless. Language, like knowledge, can only be used to hurt when it is bottled up and made 'taboo'.

  • UES

    "there seems to be an increasing number of people who come to New York and sequester themselves in little circles re-creating their pasty-white communities from PA or WI or whatever. It's a shame because NY has so much more to offer."

    Yes, it's called Upper East Side.

  • asiangirl

    I hate it how LaMendola is TELLING others how to react to her insensitive, ignorant slander. Hey - listen - people are offended. Stop being defensive and listen for a minute to what people are saying.

    If we tell you that we were taunted and ostracized as children, and this language is still deeply painful today, why in the world would you not heed that?

    We expected that as adults, we wouldn't have to face this type of language anymore. We don't want to be constantly reminded that people view us as outsiders. Can it be true that things haven't changed since the playground 20 years ago?

    Unfortunately, there seems to be an increasing number of people who come to New York and sequester themselves in little circles re-creating their pasty-white communities from PA or WI or whatever. It's a shame because NY has so much more to offer.

  • stewart

    I wonder how many of the responders here are hypocrites - I'll bet most of you have some misogynistic anti-white gangsta rap music on your ipod right now.

    And isn't this comment ethnically insensitive:

    "And if any people are known for their sensitivity towards minorities, it's the Germans!"

    What if I replaced it with:

    "And if any people are known for their tolerance, it's Muslim fundamentalists!"

    or

    "If any people are known for their appreciation of baby girls, it's the Chinese!"

    I bet you'd be angry - and these are quite tame.

    ==> The whole concept of predjudice is in applying stereotypical ehtnic or racial attributes to individuals soley because of their belonging to said group, instead of judging them on their individual merits or deficiencies.

  • so there

    Call a white woman a fat pig and she will get the picture. Call a white man bald and he will also get the picture.

  • USA

    Forgot to mention this band too, theyre pretty good.

    "Racist Imperialist Pasty White people who all died (some burned, some jumped, some choked) when planes hit the twin towers and they still cant get over it"

  • USA

    Ching Chong Song? Never heard of em. You should check out"

    "Smelly Ass Monkey Nigger from Africa about to be hanged by Whites Like Me" best band ever.

  • it-was-a-joke

    Geez, it must be great to be white! You can make fun of other people and when they get offended, just say that it was a joke AND complain that they need to chill out, and how there's no respect for freedom anymore.

  • otomboy

    Let's make this clear for the non-minorities.

    "Ching Chong Song".... "Nigger Song"

    Same effect, one is more obvious.

    People will get upset and rightfully so.

    and re post #30

    "But still. Things like this have to be considered in context. Is Ching Chong Song the band in any way making light of or encouraging racial discrimination or violence?

    The answer is clearly no."

    You don't need any kind of context, replace "Ching Chong Song" with "Nigger song" and the answer is clearly yes.

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