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<title>Gothamist: Trouble in Clubland:  Man Killed At Chelsea&apos;s BED</title>
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<title>formerNortonemployee2</title>
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<pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 10:40:40 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I worked with Orlando at Norton and he was a wonderful, caring, hard-working person--full of life and positive energy.  I was shocked and saddened to hear about his death, especially that it was so tragic and violent. 

I&apos;m really disgusted by some of the posts here by small-minded people calling him a &quot;thug&quot; and a &quot;drug-dealer&quot; and that he should&apos;ve minded his own business, (from that ridiculous first post).  He stepped in because he was a peace-maker and he was trying to protect his friend.  That is the kind of person he was and a real man would do the same thing. 

The newspaper reports in the Post and Daily News have a lot of misinformation, just to sensationalize the story.  Regardless of his past, what is true today is that Orlando was a great guy, a good friend, a good father and many people will miss him.  He died way too young. 

I sincerely hope that the manager at Bed is held accountable for his actions. He will have to live with the fact that he killed a man.

May Orlando rest in peace. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Norton employee</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 13:16:08 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Orlando worked at W. W. Norton (a publishing company) and he was a great guy.  Whether or not he ever served time has nothing to do with the story of his death.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Valorie Luther</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 11:09:13 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I planned an event there and Granville was the perfect professional....BED&apos;s elevator and management are another story...go to my blog for my take: www.creative-conceptsllc.com/blog&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Smart</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:56:49 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;The Chelsea club scene is a toilet.  &quot;Guests&quot; of all these places have been raped, shot, beaten, maimed, paralyzed and killed, even women. 

Take your $500-1000 and go to a 5 star restaurant uptown or hotel suite, your date will like it better and these bottle service-clubs will be out of business.  Don&apos;t laugh.....Studio 54, Area, Xenon and all the rest of the club-vomit had the same fate; then 20 yrs later we all want more abuse!!!  

Get smart, its your money.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Rugga Mugga</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:16:31 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Dover, chill---&gt;

What ya dont ya can be ya undoing, rembember that when Bloomberg pays $104 a vote, and that doesn&apos;t allow buidling inspectors to monitor elevator safety.

The City now allows private elevator contractors to verify the quality of the elevators you are on. the question, is an elevator repair company easier to corrupt then a City offical I wonder.

That kid Oly was from Bronx (uptown), his friend ( a female with whom he was indirectly related)flirted wuth a club manager and his girlfriend got pissed. Oly&apos;s friend and this girl go at it and security proceeds to surpress the fight and gain physical control of Oly&apos;s girl by puttting her tn the floor. Security is empowered by the establishment to surpress threats to the safety of the patrons, part of admission fee to the establishment is directly applied to security provided.

Oly intervenes as he sees his girl go down and is now a threat to public safety, security moves to control the threat and Oly is forced to wall. The wall being the doors to the elevator, the door collapse under the pressure and Oly falls through to the shaft and  is fatally injured.

Once again, Oly&apos;s friend and her flirtaious interaction led to this debacle, however the club and the city are soleresponsible for this death.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Former Norton employee</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:51:47 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Orlando Valle was an employee at W.W. Norton &amp; Company. He was an extremely warm and pleasant person and wonderful employee. There is not a bad thing you can say about this man. Although this may sound cliche, all those who met him really did love him. In various newspaper accounts, he has been identified as a drug dealer or criminal, but in the years I knew him as a fellow employee he was nothing if not generous, kind, respectful, and affable. My fear is that readers are judging him based on those words. I will miss him dearly and I pray his name is not tarnished.  He was most proud of being a good father to his son whom he loved and adored. He always did what he had to to take care of him. His son can be proud of the man his father was.

I am thoroughly disappointed and disgusted by previous posts about &quot;another thug&quot; being offed when you know nothing about him. THESE people who are so quick to judge should have tried walking a day in his shoes.
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<title>Vern Schillinger</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 05 Feb 2007 00:42:44 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder if Granville Adams is going to convert to Islam in prison...I [heart] irony.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Ben Dover</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 22:06:03 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;&quot;Dude, those from Harlem World know you mind your own, ya dont and what happens is all your own fault. From DECEPT to Dow Low, you keep ya nose to your own and it dont get broke.&quot;

That must be the lyrics to some rap tune, because it makes no freakin&apos; sense at all. 

Besides, only COWARDS keep their &quot;nose to their own&quot; when a woman is being abused in their presence. Kinda SPECIALLY when she&apos;s with YOU. 

If THAT&apos;S the freakin&apos; &apos;courage&apos; of your &apos;Harlem World&apos; then I&apos;m coming up there to kick your sorry asses and take over that shithole. 
Start running NOW.
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<title>Peace</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:54:30 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;One less criminal thug.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>dumb</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:21:28 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Number 1 obviously a white guy pretending to be a street black. How many hood rats use the word gentrification?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>let everyone in</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 16:09:28 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I thought BED was exclusive.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Jamil Hussein, al-AP</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:52:47 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Valle, who had served time for a drug dealing conviction,

Great news. One Harlem drug dealer is permanently out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Taka Naka</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:24:56 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Orlando aka &quot;Oly&quot;, we wish to offer our prayers for the circles that you leave behind, as well our best Mr Adams. At best Adams is guilty of Involuntary manslaughter and will without previous felony will get a plea that is at most Probation. The financial burden remains upon the BED as Mr Adams was acting as an agent of the establishment.in attempting to remove Mr Valle. The Elevator doors, are the true reason for the loss of life &amp; Freedom for Mr Valle and Mr Adams.......
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<title>Meredith</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:20:24 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh no!  Arif!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>jojo</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 14:17:12 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess the old adage &quot;Never get into BED with your enemies&quot; was never more apropos.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Lou</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:34:19 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;He has disgraced the memory of Kareem Said...&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>anomalous</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:25:55 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Huh?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>boys will be boys</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:23:23 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Sounds like the incident at the GM building on St. Patrick&apos;s day where two workers got into a shoving match and one was pushed through a plate glass window. Only it wasn&apos;t a confrontation, they were rough housing to celebrate the holiday of drinking.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>matty</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:12:19 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;can i quote you on that?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>TPO</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2007 13:05:44 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Dude, those from Harlem World know you mind your own, ya dont and what happens is all your own fault. From DECEPT to Dow Low, you keep ya nose to your own and it dont get broke.

That kid was Harlem huh, Funny that kid that pushed him into a closed set of doors was from Brooklyn, and yeah, I aint never met a harlem mutha that I had any respect for.

Used to be Brothers were smarter then that. Must be the gentrification of those others, like brothers thinking they can get involved in something that aint that thier own nevermind...

Act like ya know....nothing happens&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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