Microsoft Hopes You Enjoy the Vista

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At the Nokia Theater in Time Square last night, Microsoft officially launched Vista and Office 2007 to the US masses. It was here in New York City, twenty-four years ago, that the software behemoth first announced their commitment to a GUI interface. Last night, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer rattled off stats and spiel in a setting where even the escalator bolts were Vista branded!

The much often-delayed and joked-about OS comes with 1.5 million drivers out of the box and is being released in 70 countries. Microsoft had over 5 million beta testers, so they're hoping you have the confidence and security to buy it now. Vista's slick new Aero UI with advanced parental controls and security protection hopes to usher in a new era of Windows domination.

Our advice would be to wait a bit and see how everyone else does first. Standing on line in the freezing January cold for this release party, one thing was very clear - we're just glad Apple isn't launching its OS till Spring. Or perhaps it's fitting that Microsoft that has its users waiting in the bitter cold.

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Wait a few months, or until Service Pack I, then I'll think about rolling it out on my PC and company wide.

I have good reasons for my skepticism as Windows ME screwed me in so many ways.

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I'd wait much more than a week. Probably wait forever, considering the DRM in there.

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Your advice is to wait a week and see how everyone else does first???

That's bad advice.

If you are going to bite the bullet and downgrade to Vista, I'd wait *at least* until SP1 is out. And once that's out, I'd wait another 6 months until they fix the bugs with that.

The DRM stuff is going to make Vista suck real bad. If you can, avoid it for as long as possible...

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Silly Question: What exactly is the DRM Issue?
Won't it still play MP3's?

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it's simple really. Don't buy it at all. XP will be in use till 2011. Buy a new computer in 2009-10 when you need to upgrade with a widescreen lcd 1080p and vista will be included. It will be cheap then and have all the bugs kinked out. XP with Firefox is alright for now.

Vista's "issues"
www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality

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Wow, if half of that is true, my next compter may be a Mac...

"Standing on line in the freezing January cold for this release party..."

The correct wording is standing "in line", NOT "on line"...you New Yorkers, I don't get it!!

Don't be ridiculous, eyeroll. Tiger is passé. Wait for Leopard.

I can't believe Kojak wants to put Vista in his company even after a service pack. If XP works fine, why would you want to risk all the possible problems with Vista? There's really not a single compelling reason to go from corporate XP to Vista and tons of reasons not to. Haven't you seen all those stories in the computer magazines about columnists having to spend hours tracking down the right drivers (the "1.5 million" included in Vista notwithstanding) and still not having it work 100%? I'd give it at least 2 years before putting anything mission-critical on it.

Don't be ridiculous, eyeroll. Tiger is passé. Wait for Leopard.

I can't believe Kojak wants to put Vista in his company even after a service pack. If XP works fine, why would you want to risk all the possible problems with Vista? There's really not a single compelling reason to go from corporate XP to Vista and tons of reasons not to. Haven't you seen all those stories in the computer magazines about columnists having to spend hours tracking down the right drivers (the "1.5 million" included in Vista notwithstanding) and still not having it work 100%? I'd give it at least 2 years before putting anything mission-critical on it.

Apologies if this is a duplicate post. Gothamist's far-famed comments submissions system is up to its usual tricks.

#9, here is the logic behind "on line":

It's a state of waiting on a queue. For example, note the states of being "on time" or "on fire." Or, it's a location, such as being "on this side" or "on that thing."

Trust me, "on line" the correct wording here in New York.

#9, here is the logic behind "on line":

It's a state of waiting on a queue. For example, note the states of being "on time" or "on fire." Or, it's a location, such as being "on this side" or "on that thing."

Trust me, "on line" the correct wording here in New York.

"Oh, I'm 'Concerned Citizen'..." "I'll point out a type-o, because I have nothing interesting to contribute; and as we all know, blogs are always a perfect grammar platform..."

One word: Linux

Using Windows is like being handcuffed to a ticking time bomb...

And yet no one has posted any response to the question, "what DRM"? May I suggest you guys are all fricking geeks?

Toby,
just google it or look in wikipedia.. why would you wait for someone here to explain it? It would take like a second to find the info yourself

Thanks for that link, Schad. The guy asking for more info about DRM need only read that article. It's long, but it's comprehensive and careful from a technical standpoint.

My favorite snippet from that writeup:

Vista includes various requirements for “robustness” in which the content industry, through “hardware robustness rules”, dictates design requirements to hardware manufacturers. The level of control the content producers have over technical design details is nothing short of amazing. As security researcher Ed Felten quoted from Microsoft documents on his freedom-to-tinker web site about a year ago:

“The evidence [of security] must be presented to Hollywood and other content owners, and they must agree that it provides the required level of security. Written proof from at least three of the major Hollywood studios is required”.

So if you design a new security system, you can't get it supported in Windows Vista until well-known computer security experts like MGM, 20th Century-Fox, and Disney give you the go-ahead (this gives a whole new meaning to the term “Mickey-Mouse security”). It's absolutely astonishing to find paragraphs like this in what are supposed to be Windows technical documents, since it gives Hollywood studios veto rights over Windows security mechanisms.

Good luck with that!

- a happy Mac user since 1984

I would say that Microsoft getting security sign-off from Disney is likely an improvement in their current security policies. Lets face it, MS has never really been known for their stellar security. Internet Explorer was even flagged by the Dept of Homeland Security.

Also, not sure how much Apple users can brag really about DRM. Wasn't the iTunes store just declared illegal in Norway due to DRM concerns?

Aren't you guys tired of the Mac versus PC argument? Hasn't this been going on for over two decades? Get over it already, they're just computers for christ sake!

Hey, gotta be passionate about something.

For some, it's hot chocolate (see 6 articles up). For others, it's technology.

The DRM issue with iTunes is that Apple isn't allowing content purchased through its iTunes store to work on non-Apple products. It has nothing to do with the Mac OS. Huge difference.

I'm not a big fan of that policy, but it in no way affects my ability to record music, moving images, or photos to my own computer, all of which are going to be increasingly difficult and expensive to do in Vista.

That "DRM concern" in Norway is a non-issue. It's hogwash. Anybody who repeats that doesn't know what he's talking about, which, alas, is typical of Apple-bashers. Fairplay does not keep you from sharing your music or making additional copies. Just convert to CD and reconvert to mp3 if you want to play it on any other player on the market or even give it to a friend. It's not completely ethical, but it's completely within the terms of use and Apple knows it and allows it. Let your conscience be your guide. In fact, there are plenty of programs that can do that for you in one step. The Norwegian government just has nothing better to do. When was the last time Norway was a player in the world technological market? It never was and it never will be.

WHAT HAPPENED AFTERWARDS:
The kid was taken to a back room where he was being held by a campus security guy and my Blackwater Bodyguard #6.
I told the university staff that I was concerned about him and wanted to speak to him personally. He was handcuffed and tied down to a chair. As everyone left so I could have my little "talk" with this poor troubled soul, I instructed BWBG#6, "Nobody gets in here for the next 45 seconds!", he said, "I understand sir."

The rest of my story goes like this:
"I approached the kid and he became irrational! He screamed, tipped his chair over backwards, slammed his head into the wall several times! I tried helping him up by the neck, but he tried to bite me! I released him and he fell to the floor hitting his head on my shoe (several times)! Boy was I glad to get out of there! That guy was crazy."

The Hungarian authorities have assured me that he will never do anything like this again.

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