Gothamist: New for 2007: Tax-Cutting Bloomberg

join the real world.

Thu, 18 Jan 2007 11:15:32 -0500

If this guy is in fact a real police officer he should thank his older coworkers for the low pay. The union negotiated and accepted the deal precisely because people like you get the short end of the stick. They take the bulk of the pay increase and shaft the rookies. They get away with it because next year's rookies aren't in the union and can't vote on the deal! Sports leagues do the same thing. Of course the veterans will sign off on a rookie salary cap. They aren't rookies!!! Say the city decided to give an extra billion to be split amongst all the police officers. The veterans would make sure you got about a $0.05 extra per paycheck. And if you stick with the job you'll be making huge amounts of money later. And we all know cops game the system to get extra overtime. Plus you get a sweet pension after 20 years and you can go start a second career. Cry me a river. Nobody I know chose their career path based on first year salary.

edEx

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:42:21 -0500

I value the police, but do not value the BS you're throwing down on this thread. Academy is 25K... So you're training and legally cannot make an arrest or pack your firearm. Way to wiggle around that one. The page I cited was recently updated as it references the year "2007" several times and matches your link to base salary as a first year officer. I know a few cops in the department who started 25K a year in the academy, been on the force for several years and have been bumped up to over 60K+. Some are making even more doing Intel and Nexus Ops. The cops I know that take the train ride free. Why? They're cops. If they drive, they park for free. And I'm a little hazy on this: You say you made 70K at your old job (Military?), how do you not have a dime in savings? If you're my age (late 20’s–30's) at 70K for even 3 years should net you 20-30K savings (3-4% interest incl.)... Also, your "other equipment" could have been a bank loan paid back to the bank over a period of time and is also a tax right-off... Tell your accountant. I’m curious. Can you buy your equipment from anyone like Chief supply, or is there a special NYPD place to buy “other equip”?

grammar police

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:11:29 -0500

Stop whining, you should of stuck with your old job. Should have, not should of

say it ain't sew

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:06:08 -0500

There's a new one, a cop taking the train to work. Almost all the ones I know drive in, ain't no way would they want to ride with use regular citizens. And besides, don't you get on the MTA for free? Stop whining, you should of stuck with your old job.

jhu nypd

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:59:44 -0500

>money can be saved much easier. Hah. Aside from one gun and one bullet-resistant vest, the city expects you to buy ALL your equipment, which you can expect to cost between $1500-$3000 dollars all told. The dress uniform alone is around $600 which is about two weeks pay after taxes. Factor in living outside the city, and I'll lowball the train ticket costs at $12 round trip, and you've just thrown in another %20 of your take home. Every single other cop I work with was only able to make it through the academy because either our spouses worked, they were just out of college, or they had savings. The supposed pay raise after the academy also takes a while to actually start showing up in our checks. Like I said, nobody joined this job to become rich (hell, I took a 70k pay cut) but it's becoming pretty clear how much the city values the police (and fire, and ems).

jhu nypd

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:29:30 -0500

Trust me. I know exactly how much I make a year, and I'm currently making 25,100 as my base salary. Your page seems to be slightly out of date, this one is more accurate: http://www.nypd2.org/html/recruit/salary.html

edEx

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:23:52 -0500

#5... you're a little off base: $34,970 Starting salary (including holiday pay, uniform pay and night differential) Excellent Promotional Opportunities A choice of paid medical and dental programs 20 paid vacation days 27 paid vacation days after 5 years Unlimited sick leave with full pay Annuity Fund Optional Retirement at one half salary after 20 years of service Source: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/html/misc/pdfaq2.html The starting salary is really no different than a junior art director's starting salary and since most NYPD officers do not live in manhattan, expenses are far less and money can be saved much easier. in any case, the clothing tax cut was coming, that should should not be a surprise. property tax cut is good, but #4 seems to know nothing about the real estate market in nyc; believing that every landlord is scum. HA! that really made me laugh.

jhu nypd

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:02:08 -0500

Police Officer starting salary: 25,100 City surplus: 2.9 billion. I didn't take this job to get rich, but this is just ludicrous.

warren the great

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:00:02 -0500

also, why give a break to property owners? do greedy, scummy landlords really need a tax break? how about something to ease the burden on the middle-class people paying inflated rents to live in small apartments.

gayle

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:45:06 -0500

Better yet, let's use it to bring library service up to 6 days again, what we had before Sept. 11.

fiscal responsibility

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 13:01:22 -0500

Rather than spend the money as Benjamin Kabek suggests I would rather see the city either pay down debt or put the money into some sort of rainy day fund. Plenty of newspaper articles of late have suggested that the federal government's lesser than expected deficits are a result of unexpected increases in taxes collected from the wealthy, mostly through stock market and other investment gains. These revenues can be very tricky to forecast, certainly trickier than payroll taxes. Once you start spending it is hard to cut it the budget later.

Benjamin Kabak

Wed, 17 Jan 2007 12:02:38 -0500

I guess this is the so-called tax-and-spend liberal in me, but when I hear about budget surpluses and healthy economies, I would rather see the city investing in much-needed infrastructure upgrades than in giving the money back to the taxpayers. Build us our 2nd Ave. Subway. Upgrade the roads and river crossings. I'm okay not getting back a few hundred dollars if life in the city is improved as a result of that sacrifice.