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Forget the Ni Hao Ma's, It's John Liu Vs. Rosie O'Donnell

Where the hell is Lisa Ling when Barbara Walters needs her? Last week, Rosie O'Donnell commented about the whole Danny DeVito drunk as a skunk on The View by imagining what people in China were hearing:

"The fact is that it's news all over the world. You can imagine in China, it's like, ching chong ching chong ching chong Danny DeVito ching ching chong chong ching drunk The View chong."
Of course, Rosie's riff has upset City Councilman John Liu, who sent a letter to Barbara Walters to complain. From Room 8, here's the letter:
Asian Americans across the country are very offended by remarks made by Rosie O'Donnell this past week on your program "The View." Her caricature of the Chinese language hits a raw nerve in our community. For your information, a clip of the relevant December 7, 2006 program
is available at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuTspbPmV_g.

As a well-traveled and experienced journalist who has gained respect from many people around the world, you better than anyone should know that these types of derogatory remarks have consequences beyond the stupidity of the person who made them. Yet, you more than anyone
stands to profit handsomely from the pumped-up ratings generated by this type of controversy.

I do not believe the production and broadcast of these remarks reflects the high standards of excellence held by you or the American Broadcasting Company. But, what will you do to hold yourself and those who host the program accountable for such offensive remarks? I and the many Asian Americans offended by "The View" look forward to your response.

Hmm, ABC does deserve credit for green-lighting the short-lived Margaret Cho sitcom All-American Girl, which is known as being the first sitcom with an all-Asian cast... but it sucked. (Maybe ABC will line up Daniel Dae Kim and Yunjin Kim from Lost - they're Korean, but at least they're Asian! - for some good will.) Liu told Fox News, "It really hits a raw nerve for many people in the community — many like myself, who grew up with these kinds of taunts. We all know that it never ends at the taunts." It's so true, but at least Rosie didn't squint or use her fingers to make her eyes slanted.

Gawker has the clip, to which they thoughtfully added a gong (a sound effect that confused the Daily News, which thought the gong was added by The View producers).

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  • someone

    If it's so offensive, why then, are chinese NAMED Ching-Chong?

    I refer you to this report:

    http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:dN_gZ2uk3ZQJ:www2.nsysu.edu.tw/econo/Mrlai.pdf+ching+chong&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=93&client=firefox-a

    Chang, Juin-jen, Ching-chong Lai and Chung-cheng Lin, 2003. 3, "Profit Sharing, Worker Effort, and

    Double-Sided Moral Hazard in an Efficiency Wage Model," Journal of Comparative Economics, Vol. 31, No. 1, pp.

    75-93. (SSCI, EconLit)

  • Fred

    The problem isn't that she made the whole stupid ching chong joke, but that she went ape-shit over Kelly Ripa's joke when Clay Aiken tried to cover her mouth. So explain to me how Kelly Ripa is homophobic, but Rosie, well, that's just her sense of humor?

  • 1 tv viewer

    It shows "The View" is not a family show. Rosie would not do that on her previous talk show. What happened to the "Queen of Nice"? Where is Lisa Ling?

  • Jim

    These guys wrote a great song about Rosie's ching-chong activities:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywgxa5ORyIU

    Great stuff!!!

  • Yao kuei

    I can clearly see from the posts above that Asians were offended and Non Asians were indifferent about the whole thing.

    I am an Asian and I was offended when I watched the video. Was her comment racist? Probably not. Was it offensive? Yes, if you are Asian. NO if you are not Asian.

    SO I can only say to the people in this post that they weren't offended because they weren't the target of the joke.

    ANd yes! Finaly, an Asian is willing to stand for his own people. John Liu you have my vote!

  • Guest

    what do you call a racist black person? nigger

    what do you call a racist hispanic person? spic

    what do you call a racist asian person? chink

    what do you call a racist white person? nazi

    what does a spic/nigger call an asian person? chinese

    what does a spic/nigger call a white person? whitie, sometimes redneck/cracker

    what does a chink call a black/hispanic person? a monkey

    what does a nazi call a black/hispanic person? a monkey, sometimes niggers/spics

    by the way in nyc, there're far more spics and niggers than chinks and nazis on the streets. and blacks and hispanics always deny that there are. it makes me giggle.

    have a nice day :)

  • jd taipei

    living in Taiwan, if i got as bent out of shape as some of these guys every time some stupid kid said "HELLLOOOOO" to me or some fat hog made fun of the way I spoke Chinese, i would have had 8 coronaries by now, lol.

    get over it, i got news for you to people who don't speak Chinese it sounds like that. if imitating a chinese announcer what was she supposed to say. oooh! no no! don't make a joke about the way Chinese sounds to me! too funny.

  • madison & 5th

    The "View" these days is narrow minded and a big joke masquerading as a open minded, diverse perspective talk show.

    First they got rid of Lisa Ling, then Star Jones, and now they only have 4 ignorant women left, with the occasional token guest minority to sit in and co-host the show, whom they barely ever allow to speak on the show. Am i the only one who sees this?

    I'm going to write to ABC's advertisers and have them pull ads and money away from this network and the show. Any network or show that allows for this kind of stupity and ignorance to persist doesn't deserve any of our money, patronage or respect. I urge all of you to do the same, get them where it counts, so they will listen. Money speaks to the networks, and if they lose advertisers/ big accounts they will finally care to do something to stop this discrimination.

    Who will be "The View's" if we can even call it that any more, next token minority co-host? Did you think we wouldn't notice? We are not all stupid as you think ABC, producers of the "View". they throw 1 in so that the show won't be considered racist or narrow minded. The show should really be called "3 narrow minded ignorant women's view", that's more accurate!

    Lisa, Star and Meredith were the only ones that were interesting, smart, decent and non- haters on the show. They got rid of 2 of them and 1 had the smarts to move up in the business and leave on her own while she was ahead.

    I have loss all respect for Barbara W., what were you thinking? What have you stooped to? We obviously had you pegged wrong.

    Is it just me, or does other people think Joy, Rosie, Elizabeth and Barbara have the most annoying voices? they are all so squeeky and/or whinny, just my observation. watch them try to sound less squeeky after they read this posting. how can anyone even understand what they are muttering after all that chirping noises out their mouths? they need to give themselves a reality check before making fun of anyone else.

    I've already stopped watching the show, it's pathetic and so are they, too cowardly to even give a genuine full apology and donate money to a charitable organization of our choosing that reaches out to our Asian American community that is so vastly neglected and under-funded. That's a good start.

  • K&M 4 ever

    you tell em Charlie Chow, Mae D., councilman Liu, and everyone who are finally speaking out! Don't allow anyone, no matter how crafty they are to make you stop speaking out, speaking loud, or lessen the severity of this issue. Thanks for your bravery and perseverance! You are making a difference! Don;t stop, don't give up!

  • Mae D., SB, LA NYC

    here! here! to all of you who are speaking out and speaking up about Rosie's racist jargon. Thank you! It's long overdue that we have a discourse on this social injustice that we've been attacked with, since the 1800's, long before the Chinese exclusion act of 1882.

    Unfortunately, not much has changed for us, we still face the same ignorance and prejudices our ancestors who came before us have faced. They were not treated as equally as the other settlers of their time, and no matter how much they contributed to society, their taxes provided more than 50% of california's total revenue, they were the only immigrants who were taxed so heavily, then what were they slapped with? their homes they built were burnt down, their businesses burnt down and forced to live a lonely existence after the Chinese Exclusion Act stopped allowing their wives and kids to join them.

    The men who weren't married and didn't have kids, died childless and alone. This is what happened to my friend's grand mother's great great great...(and so on) grand father's friend. My friend's family were one of the few fortunate ones who already had their wife and/or kids here. She was told their story, and I wished that more people knew these true stories in our American history.

    We are still treated as second class citizens the same way our ancestors were treated, even after 200 yrs.! the exact same way, like we don't belong here, as if we are less American, less worthy, less human...

    Obviously, 200 yrs of keeping quiet, being respectful, kind, obedient, non confrontational, and treating people the way we want to be treated hasn't done us any good, so it's time to speak up, stop biting our tongue, be angry, give as much as we receive, and treat others the way we are treated (not vice versa for a change).

    Lets stop being so respectful if the other person hasn't given the same, be loud, give what you get, get upset when someone commits hate and disrespect you. Don't give up until we are given equal treatment and respect.

    Silence does equal death. No one will care, and wont know, and will continue to treat us unfairly if we allow them to by doing nothing and saying nothing. Fight back, yell back, complain, confront them , otherwise others will continue to consider us weak and walk all over us.

    Teach your kids to always stand up for themselves, listen to your kids, be open with them, never limit their potential, make them fearless, and always have faith in them. Each one of us are responsible to do something, we can promote change for the better, we are each only 1 person, but each one of us can add up to millions and make a huge difference that could last a lifetime for our future and the future of our kids and our kid's kids, and for the rest of humanity.

    The brave supporters who marched, protested and/or fought back with the Great Martin Luther King, and Gandhi did, and each one of those millions of people were just 1 person; imagine if they said they couldn't make a difference? Lets learn from them, don't EVER give up, there can be a better tomorrow for all of us if you keep at it, until it stops and changes for the better COMPLETELY, DON'T accept anything less, we would be foolish to.

    Teach our kids the complete American history we weren't taught, and tell them about the unsung heroes who came before us and risked their lives to help build America, who never were justly compensated for their hard labor, devotion, knowledge and loyalty. But instead, lost their lives, others lost their homes, businesses, and/or families or never even had the opportunity to have a family at all. This is their story, and one of our history.

  • LA NYC

    Rosie is the modern day Hitler, who propagates hate and perpetuates ignorance. If she could she'd have us killed, segregated/ Ostracized & tortured too. Having a Jewish mother Rosie, you should know better than to target any one race or anyone else for that matter, it's wrong, it's evil, it's unacceptable.

    I seriously doubt your mother taught you to hate like Hitler. You are a disgrace just like Hitler is to his ancestors. The show the "View", and ABC, by standing behind her are no better. It's unacceptable and underlies her deeper ignorance and hatred towards Asian Americans and yours if you allow these racial rants/comments, and don't do anything appropriate immediately to remedy this situation.

    My family have lived here for 11 generations and yet our children still experience the same taunts. This is outrageous! We are still made to feel as if we are second class citizens. We are just as American as anyone else, but haven't been given the same respect as other Americans.

    No matter if you are a 1st or 11th generation American, we are all the same, our families came here in hopes of a better life. We all want love, respect, a good life and happiness, regardless of race. All of us, when it comes down to the core of who and what we are as human beings essentially are the same.

    Just b/c my Chinese family came here in the 1800's, doesn't make me think we're superior, or entitled more than anyone or any people of any race or religion who came here after us. We don't discriminate, why do some feel it's okay to spread ignorance, hate, and think they are superior? Why is there a double standard? Don't take this lightly, racism in ANY FORM to ANY DEGREE is RACISM and EVIL, it only leads to more racism. It propagates and fosters further ignorance and discrimination.

    Make the Rosies(anti-Asian American) and Michael Richards (anti-Black/African American) in the world liable for their racial rants/comments by donating their money where their mouths are to organizations that help fight racism and/or promotes awareness and education.

    Silence=Death, if you don't speak out, speak up and take action, it's as if you don't exist...and no one will care. No one will care if you, yourself don't care and don't take it seriously and brush it off as it's not a big deal. To these Asians I say, stop the self-hate.

    Asians who have experienced racism on a regular basis first hand understands, and those who haven't, you've been VERY lucky and perhaps haven't traveled as much as I have in our country, America, or abroad extensively- Believe me, it's exist on a large scale even if some of you haven't experienced it or don't realize it.

    Anyone who is racist & propagate it should get out of America, b/c we are a beautiful country with supreme diversity that is unmatched anywhere else, we should be proud and praise it instead of hating one another and causing a divide for whatever stupid and ignorant reason. Great Americans exist, Asian, Black, Latino, White, etc... It's not limited to just 1 particular race, we all bring a magnitude of contributions, wisdom, creativity, intelligence that better the lives of all of us in this world. Ignorant people are the evil seeds that spoil it for the rest of us.

  • nycguy

    whenever I read comments about race on this site, i feel like I am dealing with a bunch of dumbasses.

  • mo

    just because you fart, spit, pick your nose, and shove your momma at home and not in public doesn't make you better. then again, you're not afraid to be ignorant in public. kudos to all.

  • Kojak

    100th Post!

  • GHYardy

    jeesus this pig is a monster.

    http://thetrack.bostonherald.com/images/more_track/rosieltp12132006.jpg

    look at this disgusting hog!

  • ???

    To all you non-Asians - specifically the caucasians - who are complaining about the double standard:

    You have to stop talking as if we live in some sort of a utopia. There is a double standard within racial jokes and comedy because, frankly, there is a double standard in society with whites and minorities. If you deny this, you are blind.

    When whites are made fun of, it is much easier for them to shrug it off because they are the MAJORITY. Even if "white stereotypes" are being pulled, there are plenty of white people in the media, politics, sports, EVERYWHERE to prove that they aren't always true. The same cannot be said for certain minorities.

    Case in point: Asian Americans. Despite being the fastest growing minority group in the US, we are still a small one - and severely underrepresented in all aspects. If we are stereotyped or marginalized in any way, people subconsciously accept these stereotypes or images. There aren't Asian Americans EVERYWHERE like there are whites.

    Therefore, you cannot expect people to give caucasians the same sort of racial "protection" as minorities receive, because caucasians NEVER need it in the real world. White people own the world, practically. To deny your own advantage would be foolish.

  • ???

    Ben Dover:

    "1) Rosie's imitation of an asian language was no more disrepestful than if she had imitated German, Russian, French or Spanish sounds. It's not HER fault asian is such a ridiculously-sounding language.

    Asiatics: LIVE W IT. Or, as you guys like to say; "ching chong chu cha ching cho hu"."

    seriously, STFU. way to defend ignorance with ignorance.

    first off, "asian" is not a language.

    second, like someone else here has already stated, the imitation of spanish, italian, etc. languages can be denigrating. however, that kind of silliness has NEVER been as offensive as "ching chong" talk.

  • JC

    I think the thing that is offensive, is not that she is doing a poor imitation of a chinese accent, but that she repeatedly uses the word "ching chong" which has long been a racial slur.

    Look it up. No wonder it hits a raw nerve.

  • yayness

    "if rosie had done it using a "zany" french or british accent, no one would have cried racism. why is it only racist if you imitate a chinese person, yet not someone from, say, germany?"

    good question. i don't know. why don't you ask the white people of english/french/german/irish/russian descent who mock the english/french/german/irish/russian accent if they ever received any hate mail from offended english/french/german/irish/russian descents.

  • yayness

    "if rosie had done it using a "zany" french or british accent, no one would have cried racism. why is it only racist if you imitate a chinese person, yet not someone from, say, germany?"

    good question. i don't know. why don't you ask the white people of english/french/german/irish/russian descent who mock the english/french/german/irish/russian accent if they ever received any hate mail from offended english/french/german/irish/russian descents.

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