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Greyhound Prices Drop to Chinatown Bus Levels

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That bus exhaust fume you smell is that sound of a bus price war! Greyhound has entered the fray of discount bus routes, dropping their prices as low as $15 for one way and $30 for round-trip for the NYC-Boston route that the Chinatown buses have dominated with their low low prices. Fung Wah currently charges $15 for a one-way ticket.

Are you more likely to ride Greyhound at these price? Or will you stick to Chinatown buses? The bus line price wars now offers customers a choice for where they might want to wait. We think that some riders will still head to Chinatown, as it's convenient for downtown and Brooklyn residents, but riders who can get on 7 line might as well take it to the Port Authority.

Lately, Chinatown buses have been under more scrutiny after some bus accidents. And the congestion caused by the Chinatown bus lines' "sidewalk terminals" has prompted suggestions like opening up terminals for the bus lines at the Port Authority and in Queens.

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  • andy thompson

    cheapest fare to atlanta

  • Mohamed Barry

    New York to Atlanta.What is the price of one way ticket?

  • anonymass

    Sorry, philly, but your math is off.

    There's no way a round trip fare from NYC-Philly using NJT+SEPTA is more than $40, which is what Peter Pan (and I'm assuming Greyhound) charges. I don't know what Apex is.

    It may take a bit longer - that much is true - but it's in no way less expensive.

  • Bus is still bus

    Under the new ownership in 1987, led by Currey, Greyhound Lines shortly thereafter acquired the former Continental Trailways company, the largest member of the rival National Trailways Bus System, effectively eliminating a large portion of the bus competition. Although Greyhound negotiated cooperative schedules with Carolina Coach Company and Southeastern Trailways, two of the larger members of the Trailways system, many smaller Trailways carriers were effectively forced out of business.

    Three years later there was another costly strike. This, combined with the loss of diversification and strength of the former parent company, and labor-law violations, forced the company to file for bankruptcy, from which it emerged in the early 1990s. At the same time, Greyhound had to contend with the rise of low-cost airlines like Southwest Airlines, which reduced further the market for long-distance inter-city bus transportation.

    In 1997, Greyhound Lines acquired Carolina Trailways, one of the largest members of the National Trailways Bus System. Though today Carolina Trailways still operates as a brand name, most of the other independent members of the Trailways System fell into line and began interlining cooperatively with Greyhound. Some discontinued regular route services, diversified into charters and tours, or went out of business.

  • trailways = Greyhound

    Trailways is Greyhound.

    Like one of the early posts mentioned above, all these bus companies were swallowed up by Greyhound.

    This is like your Delta/Delta connection or US airways/chatauqua airlines relationships.

  • GiGi

    The second-to-last time I rode Greyhound, it broke down just minutes after leaving Port Authority. The bus crossed the state line into NJ and died. The last time I took Greyhound, the driver got lost in the destination city and an extra half-hour was added to my trip because he wasn't sure where the bus terminal was.

    Greyhound drastically lowering its fares is not going to make me stop taking Amtrak home for the holidays. Yes, Amtrak has its drawbacks, including overpricing and overbooking (everyone who paid should have a seat), but it shaves 2 hours off my trip, it's a smoother ride, there's a cafe car, and my fellow passengers are more civilized. Lower bus fares = more low-class riff-raff riding Greyound. No way.

  • wumanjoo

    Hm, well, I also looked at the Peter Pan site and didn't see that it had merged with Greyhound. I'm glad it hasn't! I wonder if it's still a better option than Greyound...not that that would be too hard. Has anyone had a more recent experience with Peter Pan/Trailways? I can't get myself to trust the Chinatown buses.

  • philly

    my husband and i take p2p/apex bus to philly ALL the time. it's cheaper than nj/septa- quicker and more comfortable. why take njt then a septa and then another connecting train- when the chinatown buses/and even greyhound drop you off right in center city....

    all i'm saying is- buses to philly are soooo much easier than the train. save a few bucks.

    btw- amtrak is a complete rip off. delays and the prices don't make up for anything.

  • just saying

    I believe that Greyhound and Peter Pan merged. I used to go back and forth to Boston fairly regularly. To save money, I'd take Amtrak up and the Greyhound/Peter Pan bus back. Oddly enough, there is little difference in travel time between the bus and the train. But the train is a lot more comfortable and has a nicer view along the coast, but it is a lot more expensive. I have serious doubts about the so-called Chinatown buses. See the below article (hope you can access it) from the Washington Post that evaluates the composite driver safety and maintenance ratings of the various buses. The Chinatown buses apparently have some serious problems. If you value your safety, you'd be better off taking Greyhound/Peter Pan.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/15/AR2006091500557.html?nav=hcmodule

  • ewww

    The bathroom in the Trenton train station is hell on earth.

  • anonymass

    Looks like I spoke out of turn. I could have sworn that Peter Pan was bought by Greyhound, but they have a website that says otherwise.

    Rather, it looks as if they just colluded with Greyhound to price fix. (Click the "Who We Are" link and check the 1999 milestone.)

    Seems perfectly legal.

    So, for $40 you get the 'privilege' of riding the bus round trip from Philly-NYC, or you can take SEPTA + NJT for about half the price.

  • uncommon sense

    And for those worried about jurisdictional problems: NJ Transit will end up not running into PA because SEPTA (South Easter Penn. Transit Authority) already has the rights to the Trenton-Philly and West Trenton-Philly lines.

  • uncommon sense

    I don't know if someone already pointed this out to Toby, but if you want to get to Philly, switch at Trenton from NJ Transit to SEPTA, rather than switching to the River Line and having to switch again.

  • jmchez

    Are the Chinatown buses large and comfortable with reclining seats and decent (relative term) restrooms on board? Otherwise, forget it! I'd pay for the Limoliner but they don't seem to have too many trips per day and you can't just hop on one at the last minute like Peter Pan or Greyhound.

    Darn! I remember the 80s when during a price war the Eastern Shuttle was only $10 more than a Greyhound to Boston. That was a great summer!

  • speed chim chim

    God help us, #17 has a car.

    Warn me when you're driving, please.

  • Yvo

    Hey- I'm a downtown resident and I am thrilled to hear this. Okay, it's been a while since I took any short bus rides like this (after getting a car), but back in the days, I would have jumped to take Greyhound over the Chinatown buses. Are you guys forgetting about the gang wars that occurred over the Chinatown buses for a while? And how aggravating it is when those old ladies with the clipboards push you away when they realize you've already got a ticket to a competitor? Also, plenty of those Chinatown buses DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE, so god forbid something happens, you're SOL. No thanks. Greyhound has its share of problems, but I arrive ALIVE and I won't have to have smelled someone else's dinner for a few hours.

  • anonymass

    wumanjoo,

    Peter Pan was eaten whole by Greyhound, thus my comment regarding Greyhound's past history of buying competition then raising prices to astronomical levels once they have a monopoly in place.

  • nisey79

    typo: jurisdictional

  • nisey79

    #10, don't think that there's a jurisdictonal problem regarding NJ transit traveling into Philly, PA--NJ transit already runs trains into NY-Penn Station and into Rockland County and Orange County, NY along the Bergen/Main Line.

  • ryan

    I've been a rider on Vamoose a few times, which has been pretty nice. Greyhound could be okay, but given the less-than-palatable bus station, and some of the extremely sketchy individuals...nevermind.

    I mean, to see folks fight over *places in line* while waiting for buses on more than one occasion...yeah, I'm good with Vamoose. Or Amtrak.

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