Dogs on Leash Lead to Lawsuit!

2006_12_dogleash.jpgSee, not all dog fights have to do with dogs off-leash. Some dog owners on the Upper East Side are arguing about an incident where leashes were problematic. The Post reports that Alida Rubin is suing Eva Karasthasis for "ignoring her warnings and approaching her and Punim, her Shih Tzu, causing the dog to tangle her in the leash and landing her on the sidewalk on Sutton Place."

Rubin said she told Karastathis to keep her dog away from Punim, who is not canine-friendly. "My dog thinks she's number one in the neighborhood," said Rubin.

But Karastathis allegedly ignored the warnings and let her dog wander all the way out to the end of her extendable leash.

Punim went into a fit and entangled Rubin's legs in the leash, causing her to fall, according to a lawsuit filed in Manhattan Supreme Court last week.

It's not like Rubin's dog was at fault at all, huh. Karasthasis's husband says there's a doorman that saw the incident and thought Rubin's dog wanted to play.

At any rate, dogs are not allowed to be further than 6 feet when on a leash - we learned that from the health code!

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*sigh*, the troubled life of richer Upper East Siders! It's not like there's anything actually important going on in this City.

oh, i had the same thought. what else can one do at tea time?

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Yet another frivolous lawsuit to waste the court's time.

Civil suits are a waste of everyone's time, especially anyone that has had the misfortune of being seated on a civil suit jury only to have the case settle before testimony begins. Of course, the helpful video they show you at jury duty says you have played an important role in the justice system because your presence probably forced the sides to compromise. Yeah, how about the lawyers reach a compromise without wasting three days of my time AND driving up their own fees in the process.

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I used to have this problem all the time when I lived in NYC - my dog is not friendly to other dogs, I would ask other dog owners politely not to allow their dogs to come near her, they would ignore me because their dog was such an angel, and they were just shocked when the two dogs got into a vicious fight. The best part was when they would then verbally berate me about it after I had repeatedly warned them not to allow it.

OK John, now you think you're entitled to some sort of bubble of space around you and your dog? People like you make this city unliveable. I hope your dog eats you in your sleep.

"I hope your dog eats you in your sleep."

Phrase of the week.

Can we just ban dogs in this city already?

The waste left by these animals on the sidewalk is borderline third world.

Disgusting.

Two issues here:
1. Generally speaking, extendable leashes are promblematic since they afford less control over our dogs. Irresponsible dog owners (and yes, there are some) fail to pay attention to their dogs while talking on cell phones, etc. Fortunately most dog owners ARE responsible. However, for safety of your dogs and out of respect for fellow pedestrians, extendable leashes should be locked at 6' or less whenever others are around.
2. People who have dogs that cannot be socialized around other dogs have a responsibility to get training for themselves and their dogs. Almost every dog can be trained. A socialized dog is a better, happier dog.

Finally, as to this incident and lawsuit, we only know what has been printed. I am not qualified to render a verdict as to anyone's guilt. It is a shame that these things end up in court. As one who has spent time on jury duty, I appreciate the frustration and annoyance others have expressed.

RESPONSIBLE DOG OWNERSHIP begins with "responsible."

Not being picky, but Sutton Place is in East Midtown, not the Upper East Side.

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Hehehe. Not at all. When I politely ask another dog owner not to allow their dog to closely investigate mine, I'm doing so for the protection of both people and both dogs. It's not entitlement - they're welcome to do it if they like. They just shouldn't be surprised when my dog does exactly what I said it would do. I can and do easily control her within a reasonable area - say, right next to me on a short leash, hand near her collar (I don't use extendable leashes for obvious reasons.) I don't really see the problem with that. I'm not sure why you standards of personal space and public behavior are different for people and animals in the city - I'm sure you would never consider jumping on a stranger's back on the street, or sticking your nose in their crotch. Why do people allow their dogs to do it without at least asking if it's all right?

Bob-
My dog is a product of abuse by both people and other dogs. She's as socialized as she will ever get, but not being exposed to other dogs as a puppy and then being bullied by them as an adult has left her with some trauma that can't be erased through training or exposure - she's made huge strides and this is pretty much her at her best. She's fine as long as strangers don't allow their dogs to dive into her genitals, which I think is a pretty reasonable request. Other people obviously disagree.

Bent-
Hehehe. Not at all. When I politely ask another dog owner not to allow their dog to closely investigate mine, I'm doing so for the protection of both people and both dogs. It's not entitlement - they're welcome to do it if they like. They just shouldn't be surprised when my dog does exactly what I said it would do. I can and do easily control her within a reasonable area - say, right next to me on a short leash, hand near her collar (I don't use extendable leashes for obvious reasons.) I don't really see the problem with that. I'm not sure why you believe that the standards of personal space and public behavior are different for people and animals in the city - I'm sure you would never consider jumping on a stranger's back on the street, or sticking your nose in their crotch. Why do people allow their dogs to do it without at least asking if it's all right?

Bob-
My dog is a product of abuse by both people and other dogs. She's as socialized as she will ever get, but not being exposed to other dogs as a puppy and then being bullied by them as an adult has left her with some trauma that can't be erased through training or exposure - she's made huge strides and this is pretty much her at her best. She's fine as long as strangers don't allow their dogs to dive into her genitals, which I think is a pretty reasonable request. Other people obviously disagree.

You know who love dogs fighting and taking up the whole damn sidewalk the most? Those of us who do not own pets who are simply trying to get where we need to go and have to either walk into the street or wait until the two Fidos stop biting each other while their owners gaze upon them beatifically.

I have a big scar on my arm from a retractable leash, because some idiot had his German Shepherd a good 10 or 12 feet out on the leash in a crowd and the dog took off running and clotheslined me. Left me with an extremely painful friction burn so deep the scar is half an inch wide; it took months to heal. Whether this lawsuit is frivolous is debatable, but retractable leashes ARE dangerous.

The leashes aren't dangerous, Chris, it's the owner. Maybe that sounds like "guns don't kill people, people kill people" but it's true. Retractable leashes aren't a good idea when you're on the sidewalk of the city. It makes much better sense for someone walking in a suburban or rural environment. If your dog needs his freedom to roam wait until you get to the park or dog run.

someone should feed alida to the dogs. she can't control her own dogs. so she sues other person.

""I hope your dog eats you in your sleep."

Phrase of the week."

Agreed. Absolutely hysterical.

what ever happened to using a thick choke chain.
You do not reinforce bad behavior. a quick jerk of the chain with enough force to get fido's paws off the ground is all that's needed.
I rarely see that anymore. when I do, I'll compliment the dog owner for a job well done and to keep up the good job.

Sounds like Rubin's dog shouldn't live in the city anymore...and probably shouldn't live with Rubin.

What would she have done if a loud noise frightened her dog with the same results?

BTW, I heard that when people with pets die at home, before the body is found, the pets gnaw on the facial features, especially the eyeballs since they are somewhat gelatinous.


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