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It looks like Donald Trump will get to build his 45-story Trump SoHo Hotel Condominium at 246 Spring Street. Though the city hasn't officially issued construction permits, the Greenwich Village Society of Historic Preservation heard from city officials that the hotel would be allowed, and made its grievances known.
The Trump SoHo would be part hotel, where owners only stay there for a certain number of days during the year and the apartments/rooms are rented out (like a hotel) during the other part. Thus it is a transient hotel, a convenient loophole in an area that isn't zoned for residential. Community groups opposing the project gave the Sun some good zingers:
"How can you say someplace where the owner of the room can stay there for 150 days a year is a transient hotel? Either they are totally disingenuous, or they have their heads in the sand on this one." - Andrew Berman of the GVSHPPoliticians are looking to restrict the maximum number of days an owner can stay; the Villager reports one proposal is owners can live there for 29-30 days, must leave for 5-10 days before returning, maxing out at 90-150 days a year. But Berman says that it's hard to enforce the number of days owners are present, and says, "We feel the city is using the restrictive declaration to shield itself from a legal challenge.""When Trump comes downtown, that's when its time to leave,. We don't want his tacky buildings down here. Donald Trump is an uptown guy." - Sean Sweeney of the SoHo Alliance
Here's the Trump SoHo website. When the project was announced months ago, Donald Trump Jr told the Post, "You're going to get incredible 360-degree views from about the 12th floor up. They're almost like the views in Jersey City of Manhattan, but you're still in New York."
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Who cares if its a hotel or a condotel? If it were a straight hotel, these nimbys would find something else to latch on to as the "crime of the century". Nimbys, get over yourselves.
dear anonymous,
i sincerely hope that our (unchecked) "free market" economy smashes you like the cockroach you are.
Transient hotel, my ass. Like some rich person is going to pay for a "condo" and then rent it out to other people when they aren't there. Yea, right.
I don't understand why NIMBY is such a bad thing? Are people not allowed to have a say about what happens to their community anymore? Should we just passively accept any development no matter how big and ridiculous? NIMBY is just a quick and easy retort used by people who don't know what they are talking about.
I think high density development makes sense for a middle class condo, where most people take the subway, but this is a car centered rich person's condo.
Not to mention, the people who at these developments probably will all have a parking space in the basement garage. These are rich people, they drive everywhere or take car services everywhere! They will clog up the street with long lines of SUVS entering and exiting the basement parking garage and taxicabs idling out front.
I don't understand why NIMBY is such a bad thing? Are people not allowed to have a say about what happens to their community anymore? Should we just passively accept any development no matter how big and ridiculous? NIMBY is just a quick and easy retort used by people who don't know what they are talking about.
NIMBYism is a pain in the ass when the projects in question are things people DO want (i.e. not another Trump project). People want criminals off the streets but they want the prisons built elsewhere. They want trash and recycling but the transfer stations have to be "somewhere else". They want convenient public transportation but they don't want the bus depots or subway construction on their block.
#2: this isn't "unchecked". If there were the slightest case for anything to hold this up, the nimbots would find it. The "transient" claim is the best example of this.
You anti-NIMBYists would be singing a different tune if it were a shelter...
captalista-imperialista
Alas! Will Misshapes ever be the same again with this monument to poor taste at our doorstep?
This is Gawker, right?
I walked past 246 Spring St. earlier today and construction has already started.
#7
will you die of cancer already?
thanks
#2/11: cockroach? die of cancer? Check yourself into therapy. This is a discussion about a development, those words you use are unnecessary.
This will get built and all of you will buy the entire Apprentice back catalog on blue ray DVD.
I feel bad for the folks who work on the west side of 155 6th Avenue. I used to work there and we would see the most beautiful sunsets.
Now the lucky ones will be in the new building. I hope they appreciate those views more than the overpriced restaurants and shops a few blocks away.
The company I work for is going to be moving into the building on the NW corner of that intersection. Needless to say, I'm not psyched about the mostrosity they're going to be throwing up there. You can see from the picture how much taller it is than anything else in the neighborhood.
I'm also curious to see how the traffic is going to work there, what with all the tunnel traffic that will be going right by the building. I can only assume the building is going to make a bad situation worse.
Aren't there zoning laws in New York City anymore?!!! If you live in this neighorhood and allow crap like this to go up, you deserve it.