Gothamist: "My Name is Rachel Corrie" Discussion

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Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:32:37 -0500

I have to say , It takes balls to stand infront of a bulldozer like that . See what you crazy ass peacnik's don't get is that some people in this world if given the chance will kill you . Do you seriously think that the person operating the bulldozer considered that they would kill this woman . What she did was admirable, It didn't serve it's purpose . So what was the point again ? It escapes me !

inquiring mind

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 12:09:25 -0500

To zk, Take a look at this link, and then explain how Israel is such a great "occupier," as you call it. Seems to me that one of the dozens of surrounding Arab countries could afford to give the Palestinians a fraction of their land...and never even notice the difference. http://www.iris.org.il/images/arabwld3.gif [18] Posted by: Shayna | November 15, 2006 10:23 AM _________________________________ You just made a BIG contradiction. You just admitted that someone should give the Palestinians land. Therefore, if you want to use that argument, it is Israel that should give up all the land and become aliens. The way you stated it, the Palestinians have every right to fight for what was theirs at one time. If you were to go by Judeo history (christianity,) the first son was given all rights to the land that Israel has "occupatho of." The birthright is the right of the firstborn to inherit the family estate. (Jacob and Esau again) "Two nations are in your womb"--they are stories of national conflict. "These tales prefigure the later antagonism of Israel and Edom." Look at the map.

mh

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:52:12 -0500

[16] Posted by: Samantha T: to answer your question, I have helped the world by letting go of childhood and growing up. See the world as it is, not as you wish it were. Nicy Nice works in pee wee land. Promoting a woman's stupidity does nothing for world peace. It only holds things up by creating more unncessary agruments regarding issues that have nothing to do with what the people of Israel and Palestine may need. She (Corrie) brought nothing to the cause that a Palestinian woman couldn't have brought. The Palstinians are still just as misunderstood as they were before she marched in with a cause.

stone cold

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:32:01 -0500

[11] Posted by: Lilitu : so what if the play does not make her a marytr. The producers are trying to make her a marytr. Let's see, the fact that her name is plastered together will the attack from the evil Israelites; the fact that she was killed by a bull dozer while fighting for the Palestinian cause is so clearly stated; the fact that she has become a poster child has made her a potential martyr. "the play does not glorify Corrie" It was said that her journal was used for the play. Hello! The whole thing stinks of a cry for: give her sympathy make her a marytr.

Shayna

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:23:46 -0500

nola

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 10:14:11 -0500

Samantha T, you are brilliant! So it doesn't matter what someone's politics are as long as they "give a shit and do something about it"? So I assume you admire Stalin, Hitler, bin Lade, McVeigh and other great men who gave a shit and did something about it? Not that this dingbat did anything as bad as those guys, but you do seem to be setting the bar pretty low. And as for advancing justice, can I do that without assisting Palestinian terrorist?

Samantha T

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 07:43:55 -0500

"It is hard not to laugh when Valley Girl activists meet such an appropriate end." By all means, tell us what the hell you have done to advance justice lately. I'm not saying that I agree with Rachel's politics, but at least she gave a shit and was doing something about it.

ghghgb

Wed, 15 Nov 2006 01:24:28 -0500

and those jews who keep crying victim (and they are a very loud minority) may be identified as having "holocaust complex" which for its stupidity and problem causing has got the so-called jesus complex beat hands down!!!!!

zk

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:03:00 -0500

What is the difference between Israel's intent on destroying its neighboring countries, and those countries intent on destroying Israel? Billion of US dollars. Israel has murdered hundreds, if not thousands, more innocent people than all attacks they themselves have suffered. Yet their PR machine always has them as victims, not the aggressors and occupiers that they are.

Doctortd

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:31:48 -0500

The Forgotten Rachels: http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/TheForgottenRachels.html

wtf

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:02:53 -0500

"She played little-girl games in the real world and got what she deserved while fronting for terrorists." "when Valley Girl activists meet such an appropriate end." What is wrong with you people?

Lilitu

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:41:03 -0500

It's my understanding that the play does not glorify Corrie or turn her into some sort of martyr. In fact, I read--though damned if I can remember where, so I apologize for not citing my source--that she comes off as naive and misguided.

nola

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:31:43 -0500

It is hard not to laugh when Valley Girl activists meet such an appropriate end. But it is too bad she didn't live long enough to grow up - then again Tony Kushner still hasn't grown up. And why are these phony "talk back" panels always composed of people with identical viewpoints? Talk about staid and subservient...

diluded marder

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:17:08 -0500

this topic brings out commenters that make the baby spell-check cry

mh

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:01:52 -0500

SNm: that was funny.

Izzy

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:48:31 -0500

She was a diluded and parent-indulged American-princess. She knew the objectives of the ISM. She knew that the IDF was on an arms-sumuggling tunnel search&destroy mission. She was repeatedly warned to stay-clear of the giant D9 bulldozer. The classic picture of her is the AFP one making the rounds showing her face contorted in rage as she and her PAL buddies burnt and tore-apart an America flag. She played little-girl games in the real world and got what she deserved while fronting for terrorists. Typical of the Brit Leftists to glorify an idiot.

SNm

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:22:44 -0500

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_current_rachel_corrie.php Now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to jump in front of a speeding garbage truck to become a martyr for the cause against waste management.

matty

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 15:12:18 -0500

by jesus complex I meant martyr, joan of arc, etc... yeah I think her energies were misled. I mean, she wasn't muslim and didn't die a martyr (even worse that she was american from the palestinian perspective) nor was she israeli wherein maybe her protests would have more resonance with someone from there demanding the agression stop. She also wasn't particularly patriotic to her own country so it's almost as if she died for a cause that will go completely unappreciated by all parties involved. maybe the feminist-liberal-anti-israeli-party will pick up her legacy in the future. she's kind of as embarassing as that one kid who went to afghanistan and joined the taliban to fight against american soldiers. what was his name again? is he even still in jail?

mh

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:44:13 -0500

What does Jesus have to do with it? What does religion have to do with it? It is political. As far as Israel in concerned, they were in their rights to attack Palestine. The United Nations didn't stop them. I don't support the idea of a theatrical play. We don't have the full story. We only have her perspective and that was enough for the Isrealites to ignore her. She was not Joan of Ark. Stop trying to make her a marter. Besides, if they wanted to help anyones cause, they would do a one woman show from a Palestinian women's perspective. Someone who has lived the conflict. She is not the only casualty. Now she is dead. There is no person with her energy to help fight the cause of the Palestinians. What was the point of what she did? She is dead. She will be buried in history in years to come. No body will know her or her cause and the conflict will continue. If there is a play, then it should be free to the public with a request for donations.

SNm

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:42:45 -0500

Exactly - defending civilian lives from neighbors who have openly expressed their interest in murdering all the Jews - gotta hate that. Total non-existent threat too - it's not like anyone has tried to invade Israel or kill Jews before. I wonder if the play shows the part where she hysterically screams anti-American slogans in front of a news camera. I love that part.

Karensfo

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:40:52 -0500

death wish?

matty

Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:06:16 -0500

Though I hate what israel is dooing out there, it takes a serious jesus complex to stand in front of a bulldozer.