Gothamist: Would-Be Terror Plot Snarls Travelers - and Their Packing

anado

Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:59:55 -0500

I flew out of Laguardia yesterday at noon. A friend had told me that it would take me 5 hours to get through security. From the time that I got to the check-in line, till I was walking away from security it took me 20 minutes. I was so happy about that.

nola

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 18:36:55 -0500

Apparently the only thing you learned while in Amsterdam is that they have lots of dope and nudity. Typical of a lefty. So you advocate changing our policies to accommodate Muslim fascists? Nice. And also typical of our craven left.

Bob

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:00:56 -0500

Isn't Amsterdam one of the "most free" countries in the world, with liberals laws regarding drug use and sex, basically a very permissive society. Yet if these terrorists "hate our freedom" (at least that is the verbal garbage coming out of our favorite Conservative talking heads) so much, how come Amsterdam hasn't been blown up or faced major terrorist attacks? Such a free country, yet they have escaped major damage...so odd. Maybe cause the "terrorists" actually don't hate our freedom, they just hate our government's policies? (I have been to Amsterdam, I know enough about the place, thank you.)

nola

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:53:01 -0500

The plot was discovered because UK police can engage in the kind of aggressive investigations that liberals whine about. It is easier for UK police to grab phone and bank records than police over here. Fortunately Bush is doing everything he can to make such investigations possible over here and sniveling liberals will live to lose another election. And Bob should quit talking about Amsterdam since he clearly knows nothing about the place.

g

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:26:50 -0500

Right, mod. This plot was discovered because of intelligence, police work, and good investigation. Fighting a war in Iraq had nothing to do with it. Just shows the fallacy of the "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" idea. These were UK nationals, brought up in a democracy, who still were plotting to blow up planes. No ties to Sadaam, no meetings with Osama as far as anyone can tell. Better intelligence, not more war, will win this fight.

Bob

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:23:29 -0500

Want to know the truth? The US aided in the busting up of this ring because they legally obtained wiretaps. Not illegially, LEGALLY. That is where the outrage from the "loony left" comes from, the fact that King Bush decides to do things unconstitional. Liberals want our country to be safe, but we are not willing to shit on the Constitution to do it. And oddly enough, this bust was aided by the US by not shitting on the Constitution. Amazing what one can do, and still be considered "Pro-America" And last I looked, Amsterdam hasn't been blown up. Yeah, some kook killed an artist, does that equal 3000 dead?

moderate

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:16:10 -0500

No, disaster was averted because of good, old fashioned policework. Just another misconception of the fundamentalist right.

what's the freq

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:09:18 -0500

OK, what's Mr. Van Gogh's number? Thank God, this plot was Foiled, Foiled I say. Go Lamont.

nola

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:58:11 -0500

Bob - Ask Theo van Gogh if the Muslims are "conveniently ignoring Amsterdam." And speaking of scare tactics - why do liberals keep howling about wiretaps and bank records? A disaster was just averted because Blair and Bush had the good sense to ignore the loony left.

calm

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:43:55 -0500

I'm disturbed by the panicked, wild-eyed overreaction to this foiled plot. How much are we willing to give up for the illusion of a totally safe world? Is nobody (cough, government, cough) going to suggest that we take a more rational approach to dealing with the threats of the modern world?

will

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:16:10 -0500

can the conspiracy talk, bob. if They were as competent and ruthless and cynical as you believe, why aren't you in a re-education camp? but anyway, i have my doubts to the viability of their plan anyway -- i'm no expert but anything this big and this complicated is bound to break somewhere. as it obviously did. but where were they testing the mixing of the explosives and their detonation? from what's been released it just seems that everything had to be a little too just so for it to ever have worked out fully. (granted, a 10% success rate would still be awful, and seeing that 10 747s do carry more passengers than were murdered on 9/11 the consequences of success would be grave indeed.)

Bob

Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:54:11 -0500

Know what time it is, kids? Its time to be scared again!!!! Mid-Term elections are coming up in a few months, so get ready for a rollicking good time!!! Willie Horton is safely in jail, but this time, it is the evil Muslims who hate our freedom!!! (yet why do they conveniently ignore Amsterdam?) So be very afraid!!!