Oliver Stone's New Flick: Lousy or Cathartic?

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I am insulted that this NYU alum has made this movie. My first day at NYU, my first film class, was on Sept. 11. I would like to add to that I was a medic from NJ at the time and I was down there. The fact that there are individuals who are profiting off of what happened on those days is sick and a pathetic example of what Hollywood is willing to do to earn a buck. Mr. Stone... 10% of the profits of the first opening days?? To hell with you. And Nicolas Cage. In fact, to hell with all those involved with that movie. I saw things down at Ground Zero that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy and here are a bunch of opportunistic greedy insensitive individuals exploiting this. Shameful.

fight for what's right

fight for your life

Not drowning pool but pretty close

10 percent openning week is not enough? that's five days. more than the other film which only gave openning WEEKEND profits.

"American,"

A link to littlegreenfootballs?

Puh-leeze. Go jerk off to Ann Coulter somewhere.

drowning poolers, you don't by any chance write poetic spam for a living, do you?

Don't the families of 9/11 have enough money?

How bout giving less to the one relative who went through her millions?

Bodies though loud are not as loud as booms. Maybe a million bodies hitting the floor at once.

I've heard a neighbor above me jump out the window and it sounded like a loud crash, not boom.

He landed on a wrought iron fence, maybe that was the metallic sound.

And, besides I thought everything was "muffled".

PS. I love Maggie G.

Alex -- The clip in that link you refer to does indeed have loud booms, but I'm pretty sure those are bodies hitting the building as people jumped or debris coming off the tower.

As for the movie, I won't see it. It's just too hard. That being said, I live in Indiana now and none of my friends here plan on seeing the movie either. It's just still too much for most people at this point.

apparently the movie mogul is donating some money to the 9/11 funds, but in my eyes it's not enough. 10% on opening weekend alone? what an insult:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5219494.stm

"How the fuck can they live with themselves when their pink ferraris are funded by the blood of the dead?"

Welcome to Hollywood

Like I said, Cage is a douche bag. Oliver Stone is just the twat.

i'm pissed off that Nicolas Cage an Oliver Stone are profiting from this movie!!! How the fuck can they live with themselves when their pink ferraris are funded by the blood of the dead?

maggie gyllenhall thinks 9/11 was our fault.

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=15592

Gothamist editor Jen hobnobbing with film critic David Edelstein here.

And if Cindy Adams was making that "tweezer" reference to the miniscule nature of 9/11 body parts--to complete her overly graphic metaphor--not only has she gone further than I thought before, but she needs to be beaten. And her little dog too.

"I'll never forget knowing that I was breathing in the remnants of people's lives while I was trying to save my own."

Absolutely. Try working that into a film. Try showing an audience outside of the city what it's like to literally inhale human ash. Try showing people what it's like to go home and wash the remains of people from their bodies.

I'm getting worked up, which probably why it's best for me to stay away from the movie.

looks like 9-11 porn for the out of towners. What could be more clueless and creepy than joining the images to a coldplay soundtrack.

Somehow I doubt a feature film could ever communicate the horror of walking through lower Manhattan through inch-deep ash after the towers had fallen and noticing how everything was so silent and muffled. It was like a macabre snowfall. I'll never forget knowing that I was breathing in the remnants of people's lives while I was trying to save my own.

What bothers me about the "every generation has a defining moment, this was ours" is wtf is it supposed to mean? 9/11 had nothing to do with a specific generation....various age groups died and were effected by it. So which generation of people are we talking about?

Defining moment of a decade maybe?

Made no f*cking sense to me.

"rips at our entrails"?

For an actual event that involved people burning to death, jumping to their deaths, and being pulverized to ash, Cindy Adams needs to take a vacation from the overly literal metaphor.

Cindy Adams on the Titanic:

"Our hearts went down with the ship in a sea of sorrow."

CA on the Hindenburg:

"Our guts heaved in an explosive ball of flaming gas."

CA on the Holocaust:

"Our spirits were starved to skeletons of their former selves before being gassed and then thrown into a crematorium of sadness."

Cindy, sometimes less is more.

I loathe Oliver Stone and his giant Director spoon. This movie will not be any different from his other highly over-rated films.

And Nick Cage gained douche bag status the moment he started doing movies like The Rock, Face Off, and Con Air (although, I have been known to get sucked into Con Air when I'm bored and it's late.) It's too bad Cage is such a douche bag because Raising Arizona is like the greatest movie ever. Next thing you know, he'll become a Scientologist.

Seriously, I hope this movie flops. I wish it were possible for people to remember how they felt right after 9/11. I can't speak for everyone and surely people continue to surprise me, but I would guess that had you asked any number of New Yorkers back then if they felt that someone should (or would) make a Hollywood blockbuster about what they had just seen/been through, they'd have shook there head in horror. It's just not right. But time heals all wounds even if some wounds are becoming. And Oliver Stone is proving to be a good Capitalist American. Hopefully the American public doesn’t follow his lead.

truth is, for me at least, it's going to hurt thinking about it for a long time, regardless of movie, tv movie or documentary.

a conspiracy theory? conspiracy theories are conspiracies by those who think they're being conspired. idiots.

while i do believ in freedom of speech and press, this movie should be archived in hell.

Oliver Stone has consistently directed middle-brow, exploitative movies. It doesn't sound like this one will be any different.

As far as not including a conspiracy theory in the movie here is a link that says otherwise (that there were explosions in the building before the 2nd Plane hits, this is depicted in the movie.

Look's like a great movie, I love maggie gyllenhal or however you spell it.

She's like that cool bartender you hang with during her afternoon shift.

Nick Cage? what's not to like about him? He's dating a young waitress he met at a Japanese restaurant.

And, the Locksmith guy from Crash, another good guy.

Cool beans.

For me, 9/11 is an example of an event that I don't need to have re-created on film in order to remember the emotions of that day. Not only do we have real-time footage of the events and documented accounts from survivors and first-hand witnesses to the events, but most of us at the very least witnessed the events (from varying distances)themselves or the eerie aftermath. I don't need to be told how to feel by actors and a director, no matter how pure their intentions.

I think the film probably is too soon for anyone in the US, especially here in NYC. On the other hand, I'm glad that it will be seen in most other countries in the world and remind them what happened. We can't make Bush less of an asshole, but we can remind people that the rest of us are not so bad.

what pisses me off is the goddamn commercials that say something like "every generation has a defining moment, this was ours"

no shit, jackass! i dont need a fucking 20 second teaser trailer during friends re-runs to tell me that.

I recently watched a four hour documentary on 9/11, and it was rather fascinating. WHat struck me was the fact that I hadn't paid much mind to any sort of video footage of the attacks since they happened. 5 years later it doesn't sting as badly. It's still difficult to watch the panic in the streets, the bodies falling from the windows, but man...CNN, FoxNews, etc really overdid it. It was really tasteless.

i don't think this movie was made with new yorkers in mind. it's not a question of it being too soon, just a question of how well it's done. if it feels wrong, it's been done wrong (or at least marketed wrong), that's all.

Wasn't there a "Are you going to see this movie" thread about this move, like, three days ago?