9/11 This, 9/11 That

Wow, Roy, that analogy is really stupid.

As previously stated, I don't hate anyone. But I guess you're right. Especially since you obviously haven't read anything I've posted. But don't let me cloud your opinion with the facts.

Tim, I think you are a great example of an arrogant New Yorker. Were you in Pearl Harbour ? (if not, you cannot have an opinion on WWII).

Yes, I think many peole in the hinterland (the people you seem to despise) were not that warm towards NY before 9/11 because they think that new yorkers were arrogant and despise the people in the hinterland (right they were) but terror attack is another thing and it certainly changed how they feel.

How about this:

Were you or your immediate family member killed on 9/11? If not, you don't know anything about the pain of 9/11 and you have no right to talk about this.

Fair points, PSU. All I would say is to people is, don't talk like you know. We're all shaken up by things we see on TV - witness Israel and Lebanon for example - but I'm not living in Haifa or Beirut. To think that I can identify with what's happening there is presumptuous and, IMHO, insulting.

Having said that, I suppose exploitation is exploitation, whether it's by Mike DeWine or the 9/11 Whore.

But I would ask you to bear this in mind... how many of the folks from outside NY (midwest, south, wherever) gave two s***s about New York City on or before September 10th? Many of the folks I speak with in the hinterlands would have been just as happy to blow up NYC themselves. Twenty-four hours later they're carrying signs that say "We are all New Yorkers." Well, no, you're not. We are all Americans, and yes, we were all attacked because we are all Americans. But they didn't attack your town, and if they did, I wouldn't presume to know what that was like.

I have lived in NYC since 2000 (though I was traveling elsewhere on 9/11) but I think the NY mentality expressed here is arrogant, childish and stupid. ("If you do not live here you have no right to comment on this"). I'm an immigrant but I understand how that day changed the nation (for better or worse but it did change it).

I agree that people outside of New York and Washington won't ever really understand the impact of September 11th,the emotional toll it takes, but to say that people in other areas shouldn't talk about it is silly. Their country was attacked. That had an impact. I'm actually from Ohio and I have seen changes in my family's politics and attitudes for better and for worse since that day. My father is scared, genuinely scared of for the first time that I can remember. Yes, those of us who were here, had a different experience, but it was still one of those events that ripples and affects people far from the center, like Pearl Harbor, like the Oklahoma City Bombing, like the assasinations of JFK and Martin Luther King, like the Challenger explosion and all the other events that most people watched on TV, heard on the radio, or read about in the newspaper but that we remember and are in some way to varying degrees affected by for the rest of our lives. And like it or not it has shaped the politics of this country every day since then to dramatic degrees so they better damn well talk about it.

Sure, people in Ohio don't know what it is like to be within viewing distance of the twin towers listening to news reports of car bombs and other planes, not knowing how you'll get home, but everyone is going to remember what that day felt like to them and probably carry those feelings around for the rest of their lives.

No disrespect to people in the midwest or other states, but I agree with Tim and SD on this. You can't really know how 9/11 truly was if you only experienced it through TV.

Tim N., I don't think anyone truly feels it until it happens in their back yard like it did us (Something I don't wish on anyone).

In my case, I know for a fact that while I sympathized with the Oklahoma bombing and other terrorist attacks, I really can't say I knew how they felt until 9/11.

that video made my day

Nice video? Sure, if you agree with the shorter, fatter, browner Ann Coulter aka Michelle Malkin.

9/11 was an attack on America, not just New York or D.C.--- in the same way that Pearl Harbor wasn't just an attack on Hawaii but the entire nation. The idea that some people want to claim "ownership" of a national tragedy is ridiculous.

If we have more pro-American, pro-family, pro-faith, pro-male, flag-waving, God Bless America films, nobody is going to care when the United States inavdes Poland.

Hurray for Ohio, Exploit 9/11! I try to everyday at when I get yelled at work by my boss in Philly.

nice video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEl14sAhQUo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmichellemalkin%2Ecom%2F

For the record, I don't hate anyone, and certainly I'm sure there are good people in Ohio and other places who suffered a loss on the eleventh. But for every one of those people hundreds of miles away from downtown there are (I'm willing to guess) 10, 50, 100 or more who can slap "FDNY" on their sweatshirt and "feel the pain." I have family in Pennsylvania and I see this all the time out there in the woods as well... wow, 9/11 sure was rough. It looked just awful on television. As one of the many NYers who was shoveling soot and mourning, I think I have the right to say to them, you don't know, you weren't there, please shut up (to borrow a term).

And it's bad enough when the 9/11 Whore and other NY politicians co-opt the elventh for their own self-serving reason. When some pol from Ohio gets into the act and speaks with "authority"... well, I think you said it best... Mr. Pol, please shut up.

What is new about Republicans not telling the truth about 9-11, invoking 9-11 to hide how bad they area, and faking things?

As for all of you Ohio-haters out there... Remember how non-existent (to sketchy, at best) the phones were here for weeks & weeks (at least downtown)??! Thankfully my cousin Jon, an ER doctor at a Cleveland (Ohio) hospital, was one of the ONLY calls that somehow slipped through the fried-mess that was left of our phone system. I gave him the phone numbers of as many friends & relatives (throughout the country) as fast as I could so he (and they) could then phone-tree the news about who was OK, who was unaccounted for, and who had been evacuated. They weren't afraid for themselves, but for us. Personally I have no need to see this film: too close, too soon (plus I'm not a huge O. Stone fan). On the other hand, let others make up their own minds. To quote those great Ohio musicians (Devo), "Freedom of Choice."

Having Rudy Giuliani at one of his events should have made DeWine less inclined to exploit this tragedy?! Few have made a bigger profit from 9/11 than Rudolph Giuliani.

Thanks for posting this, Jen!

Just found this too: "The advertising firm that created Mike DeWine's commercial with the doctored 9/11 footage is the same firm responsible for the Swift Boat Veterans ads slamming John Kerry in 2004." That's what you get, DeWine. Wonder who recommended that firm to you...

http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/openers/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_openers/archives/2006_07.html#163300

Dem. Representative Sherrod Brown is 8 points ahead of DeWine in the polls right now. And that's a challenger up against a Republican incumbent who's financially backed by Bush and going for his third Senate term. The Democratic candidate in Ohio's gubernatorial race is also heavily favored right now. I'm hoping this will be our way of digging ourselves out of a hole after 2004--this all has serious (-ly awesome) implications for 2008. And I say "our," because I'm originally from Ohio, and so voting absentee this November. Woop!

This is a film that I just can't wait to miss.

Ignoring the fact that Oliver Stone directed it, It's still a little too soon for my taste.

Yes. There is no way that the biggest attack on American soil scared the heck out of others. There is no way that anyone in Ohio had family members who died that day or have loved ones living in the city. Damn the people in Ohio for thinking about September 11. Thank god I don't live in Lebanon, Darfur, or all those other places. I might have all sorts of feelings or opinions if I experienced genocide first hand or was bombed by a neighboring country every day. Instead, I'm not going to think about it. Stupid, Ohio people, thinking about stuff.

AMEN

Yes. There is no way that the biggest attack on American soil scared the heck out of others. There is no way that anyone in Ohio had family members who died that day or have loved ones living in the city. Damn the people in Ohio for thinking about September 11. Thank god I don't live in Lebanon, Darfur, or all those other places. I might have all sorts of feelings or opinions if I experienced genocide first hand or was bombed by a neighboring country every day. Instead, I'm not going to think about it. Stupid, Ohio people, thinking about stuff.

AMEN.

Yes. There is no way that the biggest attack on American soil scared the heck out of others. There is no way that anyone in Ohio had family members who died that day or have loved ones living in the city. Damn the people in Ohio for thinking about September 11. Thank god I don't live in Lebanon, Darfur, or all those other places. I might have all sorts of feelings or opinions if I experienced genocide first hand or was bombed by a neighboring country every day. Instead, I'm not going to think about it. Stupid, Ohio people, thinking about stuff.

People from Ohio should be forbidden from even talking about the eleventh. If you weren't there, you don't know, so don't talk.

AMEN.

the desire for ownership of public events is a curious thing, in both directions.

People from Ohio should be forbidden from even talking about the eleventh. If you weren't there, you don't know, so don't talk.

No surpise, though, that the 9/11 Whore showed up.