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<title>Gothamist: Family of Immigrant Killed by Cop Accepts City Settlement</title>
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<title>dont get smart with me</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:06:26 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;“insufficiently trained, insufficiently supervised, insufficiently led.”


Why in the world would a cop be “insufficiently trained, insufficiently supervised, insufficiently led”?  Why would a classroom?  Or an army?  Or a nation? Well, because decisionmakers who set the budgets and educational curriculum have priorities which dont allow for stopping knee-jerk violence.  I mean its not as if &quot;we&quot; dont know how to train people to think straight.  Its not like levelheadedness is some new concept.  So then I guess that means its built into the way-we-do-things.  Like last week when the Army said they were going to stop giving Halliburton no-bid contracts because competition would be better for costs and quality and accountability.  Wow, what a good idea.  Lucky we just thought of that one.  Yes?  No, I dont think so.  Halliburton has their billions and now its time to cash out.  Thats how the beast is built.  By &quot;us&quot;.  Ater all it i our army, our police force.  The public schools with 50% fail rates and out-of-control hallways are ours.  And the solutions to these things are not some mystery or newly discovered development.  So why?  Well, its how &quot;we&quot; have built the beast.  Our beast.  Our Civilization.

Fact is that this is a symptom of our problems as a country as a whole.  The trickled-down effects of insufficent management thoughout our civilization.   

Crucial knowledge is not respected or even acknowledged let alone promoted.  The whole system is built upon distributing money, power, status, access and information based not on competence or fairness but rather on laws and tactics influenced over hundreds of years by sheltered shallow elites who still think of the public as their servants and the wealth of the nation as their spending money and the purpose of public education is to prepare kids to work for the elite and not to teach them social wisdom or personal dignity.

See things are they way they are because the priorites of the powerful are what they are.
Public education failing...because a powerful public education(let alone higher education for all) leads to everyone not just thinking they deserve more or that theres a better or fairer way of running things but KNOWING it. That leads to great leaders and great movements.  It also leads to calm and competent cops, teachers, parents, soldiers.

It is the importance of the role of &quot;society&quot; in forming Civilization.  As it stands now we seem to think &quot;This&quot; all just recreates itself every generation, that all we have to do is make it to college, get a job and social life and maybe vote every four years and thats it...that &quot;Civilization&quot; just isnt our concern.  

We have been trained to think that.  For generations.  Leave the thinking to...to whom??
Who do you think decides, really decides, how Civilization spends its (OUR) trillion dollars a year, decides what is taught in schools (from first thru 12th grade - yes taught: practicing shutting up, learning what is needed for &quot;the test&quot;; not taught: practicing law, practicing politics, acknowledging and celebrating your personal body, emotional management, social skills) who influences the creation of 10,000 property rights for every one personal right. 

Its not the average guy.  Its INTENTIONALLY not the average guy.

And the very rich and powerful hide behind their gates insisting and lobbying for laws and practices which keep us all struggling alone: parents, teachers, cops, soldiers, the old.  Because to address the large issues would be to create cooperation, education, and masses of happy educated organized voters who would quickly see the con game that is our intellectual, political and economic structure and would vote to change the rules, educate the kids and employees, to work together and spend together.  

But the rich and powerful, like everyone else, are not an especially happy or profound bunch and are petrified of living without the hollow luxuries which seperates them from &quot;the public&quot;.  

I mean as a whole &quot;we&quot; do have the resources and knowledge to feed and educate and organize everyone...so why arent &quot;we&quot; doing it.

Because we are not at the table.  we dont think its our job.  we BELIEVE this.  As if voting once every two to four years somehow could possibly be enough to run a country - a Civilization.

Oh but they keep us busy alright.  We dont have time to do much mor than work, pay bills, and catch a few laughs here and there. Football, Cable and 50 hour work weeks (they get the profit, unless you start your own business and then think its your turn to get more than your share).

And when an cop or teacher or parent or soldier  snaps from the pressure of a situation which &quot;we&quot; created and put them in, instead of blaming that one person completely we need to, as the judge in this case did, we need to not only see and acknowledge the larger picture, but further to see that our hands have been off the wheel for some time and our shedule and priorites, as a Civilization of busy working people, has been determined by those not-so-busy people, by those not-struggling-to-pay-the bills, see that our way-of-life and its consequences is all too often the after effects of the desires, policies and lobbying of elites with who have in mind Big Business, small ideas and zero community and certainly not the daily realities of immigrants, workers, cops, teachers, students...



ok I&apos;m done.  guess I should put up or shut up.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>NYPDwatcher</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 18:05:53 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess if you&apos;re an NYPD officer you can murder an innocent person and only get probation. Nice....no double standard there at all!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Samantha T</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 14:37:57 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I guess I&apos;m wondering why breaking up a counterfeit CD ring justifies shooting a citizen dead - even somebody actually involved in the ring.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>kwanito</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:25:13 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;$3 million goes a long way in Burkina Faso.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>CAS</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:03:04 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Um where does it say he&apos;s even an illegal immigrant.  Doesn&apos;t $3m seem awfully low???&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Jonathan</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:17:38 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;This is a bit off-topic but everybody&apos;s ancestors are immigrants. This includes American Indians (they came from the north and killed and drove away then current inhabitants - in the southern tip of south america there are still some of those people left. their DNA is close to the pacific races). &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Sharon</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:00:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, EE,

unless you are directly descended from American Indians, then, I&apos;m sorry to say, your anscestors were immigrants too. And there is no law that says an &quot;illegal&quot; immigrant should be shot. PLUS, Zongo wasn&apos;t even involved in the CD piracy operation. So read the goddman facts before you post. Idiot.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>makes me sick two</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:57:26 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;where did you read he was working for a criminal organization?
They admitted he was not involved in the DVD bootleg sting they were investigating.
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<title>ee</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:42:39 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Illegal immigrant working for a criminal organisation should not have any rights. Tragic accident yes, but $3M taxpayers money for the relatives of this criminal makes me sick.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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