June 6, 2006
The Mayor Packs Some Heat into Gun Laws
Yesterday, Mayor Bloomberg continued to strengthen his strict stance against guns and announced new legislation:
The legislation includes: the Gun Offender Registration Act for individuals convicted of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree; a one handgun every-three-month purchase limit; an Inventory bill, which would require city gun dealers to physically examine their inventories twice a year; and a ban on gun coloration kits used to disguise real guns in 'toy-like' colors.The Gun Offender Registration would require people to register with the NYPD and check in periodically, like the a sex offender. The Mayor even tshowed off painted red and yellow guns, asking the press to identify which gun was real and which was fake. His office even bought cans of paint to dye guns off the Internet from Lauer Custom Weaponry but the company points out to the NY Post, "The mayor is confused as to the purpose of these firearm paints. He's mistaking safety colors and thinking they're unsafe. For example, the wild yellow color is used quite extensively by search and rescue teams, so that when they drop their firearm they can easily find it. And police departments often use a bright blue color to indicate that a firearm is a training firearm."
This comes as 37 more mayors joined Mayor Bloomberg and other mayors' efforts against illegal guns; the mayors come from cities such as Atlanta, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, Los Angeles, San Francisco and St. Louis. The goal is to have 100 mayors signed on by year's end.
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While i understand the purpose of firearm paints for specific tactical purposes, it still shouldn't be available to civilians. The gun enthusiasts are going to yell and scream about it, but it isn't restricting your right to a firearm (i do not believe in restricting that right). It's for safety, and restricting this sort of paint to government agencies will not make a dent in it's sales AND everyone who needs it will be able to purchase it.
Then again, no two-bit 50 Cent wannabe gangsta is going to buy expensive tactical firearm coatings for their ratchet. They could just as easily use the spray paint that they have laying around to do the job. I think the problem of illegal guns is far greater than some thug painting his stolen pistol purple.
Does any see a MasterCard commercial in this picture?
Why do people in this day and age even think they need a gun? Why are they even legal in America? Forget the whole "my constitutional right" b.s. I just don't get why things as dangerous as guns, whose sole purpose is to kill/maim/injure people or animals, are allowed in the hands of Mr. Average Joe American Idiot.
No wonder other countries laughat /fear us. We are a horrifically violent society.
But, yeah, I agree with Bloomberg 100%. And true, not that it would make much difference anyway with the whole spray paint thing.
Have you ever owned anything?
Have you ever been stolen from?
Have you ever been falsely accused/arrested/handled by the police?
Ever have an incident where the police could not arrive quickly enough?
"Forget the whole ""my constitutional right" b.s."? Are you fucking kidding? This country's constitution is now b.s.?
Good luck to you when you lose the rest of your rights.
Jason
To those who think that the unrestricted sale of these gun colorants is fine:
Will you be saying the same thing when a NYPD officer is gunned down after someone pulls one of these?
Will you be saying the same thing when someone stupid enough to pull a toy gun is shot by the NYPD when in the split second the officer has to decide if what is being pointed at them is a toy or a real gun painted like a toy?
Guns don't kill people, gun nuts kill people!
Why? Lax laws due to the massive pro-gun lobby make guns easily obtainable.
we should ban kitchen knives, I'm known some housefraus who were injured when one was dropped on their foot.
what's up with the hysteria? there's very little if any corelation between legal gun ownership and crime rates, and since my (hypothetical) ownership of a gun doesn't make your life any more dangerous, why would you even care?
gun registry? i thought that was called the dept of parole/probation?
how about a criminal registry? oh yeah, wait, we have that already, it's called your parole officer.
this mayor is so out of touch, it isn't even funny.
"we should ban kitchen knives, I'm known some housefraus who were injured when one was dropped on their foot."
not really following the logic on this one... as the purpose of kitchen knives is not primarily to injure people whereas the *only* use of a gun is to injure/kill someone. you can't say it is for "protection" because then you are technically not *using* the gun, now are you?
"there's very little if any corelation between legal gun ownership and crime rates"
agree 100%. now what happens when all those darn guns somehow end up in the hands of criminals? illegal gun ownership happens because we allow the sale of guns. yes, i am aware criminals still would get them anyway, but we could at least make it slightly difficult for them, eh?
"Good luck to you when you lose the rest of your rights." actually, i think i would feel a bit more free in america if i felt it was a safer place. if we are so paranoid as a nation about protecting ourselves that we must use guns, then we are not really free, now are we?
9 -
actually you can "use" a gun for protection without firing it. its visible presence can deter.
furthermore, how does target shooting (a presumable use of a firearm) injure or hurt someone? why get in the way of hobbyists if there's no demonstrable risk to others?
finally - the general path of illegal guns, from my understanding, is from less regulated states to more, rather than burglary. otherwise (let's be charitable and assume bloomberg's efforts are both intelligent and well-intentioned) the city would be more interested in policing up stolen weapons than mounting sting operations in other states.
Oops. I meant SAR teams.
My old man, the ex-cop, used to say, you pull out the gun, you better be ready to use it. Gun owners who think the visible presence deters are responsible for lots of deaths every year.
Having said that, I give Will some credit for taking responsibility for the weapons he owns, like learning to use them correctly. Personally, I won't have a gun in my house, but I grew up around them and around responsible gun owners and there is a point that those who take responsibility along with their rights usually don't prove a danger to anyone.
It is astonishing to me, at least, how it requires more training to drive a car than it does to own a gun. Where's the NRA on this? Instead of screaming about the rights of Americans to bristle with weapons, why not work with governments for reasonable requirements for gun licenses and ownership? Training classes, knowing how to use and clean weapons, etc. I know the NRA runs these programs, but instead of seeing government as its enemy, they might go farther toward making everyone, gun owner or not, safer without sacrificing freedoms.
tim - i actually don't own any weapons, the regulations up here are such a pain that its not worth it (incidentally, it is ludicrous that it is infinitely easier to buy a gun on the street than go through legal channels.) like you, i grew up around them, and my dad (ex-military) figured it was a lot safer for my brother and i to -know- how to safely use firearms than to learn the hard way. so to me, they're kind of normal, or at least not the intrinsically evil objects that corrupt all who posess them, and i have no real issue with other people owning them.
and obviously, pointing a gun at someone you're not willing to shoot is insanity, but that there is a deterrent is unmistakable -- i'm sure police do not shoot someone every time a gun is drawn. (or at least i hope that's not the case.)
i think the reason the nra is often, well, obstreperous, is one of culture and slippery slopes. most gun control regulation has much more to do with imposing aesthetic values on gun owners rather than addressing real safety concerns (see post 3, or the congressional assault weapons ban.) since regulations (and the regulators) have proven to be fairly arbitrary there's damn good reason to avoid giving an inch.
the nra isn't that awful -- most of their work is at the federal level and gun laws should be local anyway. more restrictions here in nyc, than, say, rural mississippi or even upstate, is totally appropriate.
there is no reason for anyone, anywhere, at any time, to have a gun.
obviously, ace, if that were the case people wouldn't own them.
#8" The mayor's out of touch? Do some research–he has done more for this city than you can imagine, get your head out of your ass and pay attention. As if he's the only one thinking up these legislations and ideas. You're out of touch with knowing nothing about politics or law, it's quite sad.
#3: While it's your right to free speech as stated in the first amendment, your statment *Forget the whole "my constitutional right" b.s...* in regrads to the Second Amendment (Right to Bear Arms) is absolutely idiotic. Read the Bill of Rights again... you need a brush up.
As an overall statement that criminals will use spray paint to paint their guns, try it, your gun will never work again. Even if you do take it apart, it will barely fit back together.
I mosty rely on the stupidity of these shit-eating douche-bag-violent criminals. They're guns are handed off so many times throughout their gangbangin system of stupidity that their guns misfire or lock-up more than you can imagine. Why? Because these idiot halk-wits never clean the dang gun.
If you have ever fired a gun you would know that it needs to be cleaned every 2-3 magazines, otherwise, it will not work properly... ha spray paint, think again.
then you didn't see the Glock ads. they work when others get jammed up.
yes, the mayor is still out of touch
and that's why you guys won't be getting any DHS funds,
take that!
OK, we'll give you some, but you must BEG.
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"Have you ever been falsely accused/arrested/handled by the police?"
If this is your reasoning for owning a gun, you're in trouble. I suppose you'd whip it out and get into a gunfight with the police in these cases.
I was thisclose to pulling my piece out at these frat boys. one of them even flashed a fake nypd miniature Detectives badge.
How did I know it was fake? Cause my schemer friends all have them, only they got them from a real detective relative.
if you're going to carry, ankle or thunderbelt.
like the cops I know. or, in your pocket if you got a kel tec.
regarding the spray paint, it's not krylon, it's a oven bake finish. sure it looks like crap because you're suppose to go to a gunsmith that does refinishing, not DIY.
one more thing,
be safe out there.
All you anti-gunners, I want you to put a sign on your front door... "We Are Anti-Gun, There are NO Guns Inside"... good luck in the real world! Never been assaulted, raped, beaten to near death, robbed or generally violated by thugs eh? You'll change your tune if your wife, children become victims... and they're victims why? Cause they don't have a freakin' firearm! Remember the 3 shot rule! and practice practice practice safely!