seriously, who cares? aren't their more important things to discuss? very interesting that just as the economy is in the toilet there are all these "us-vs-them" articles appearing in the Times and elsewhere. Divide and conquer much?

i can't think of any hipster who would brag about being poor...except to excuse his/her own gentrification!

i can't think of any hipster who would brag about being poor...except as an excuse for gentrification

so.....

i have to be originally poor to be authentic and live new york city?

hahahahaha wtf kind of hipster shit is that?

Yuppies and Hipsters are puss from the same disease. Don't waist time with their classification arguments because whichever branch ends up demoralized (something unlikely to happen anyway due to their illogically high self-esteem) you'll still have the other branch around doing their usual behavior.

Note: Regarding their origins. Yuppies/hippsters are generally from the small, affluent bedroom communities that surround the major cities. So, for example, if a yuppie/hipster were to say, "I'm like, totally from Chicago", it means that he is really from say...Narananagusette, Illinois. Therefore, it isn't exactly correct to use Cleveland as an example of their sheltered, white bread origins. Cleveland, after all, is a real city, and its residents are being gentrified out by these flip flop wonders just like us in the New York area. A better choice for the Ohio area would be Shaker Heights, or Deer Park.

As for Wisconsin, that's not a bad choice at all.

if you want to get away from all the neo nyc lowereastwilliamsgreendumboslopeforestpointcobblyhillgardens drama, we got plenty of empty apts. up here in da bronx,

A vast majority of hipsters are from Ohio, Specifically Cleveland and they have been slowly infiltrating the area since the 90's in fact I think they were the first to pioneer the whole venture.... Watch out, I swear one day there going to move the entire city of Cleveland to Williamsburg, in fact they should just change the name of Williamsburg to Cleveland! Perhaps one day they will bring the rock & roll hall of fame with them! That would only be fitting since it would only make it easier for them to induct thereself when they grow up, they could just walk down the street!

A vast majority of hipsters are from Ohio, Specifically Cleveland and they have been slowly infiltrating the area since the 90's in fact I think they were the first to pioneer the whole venture.... Watch out, I swear one day there going to move the entire city of Cleveland to Williamsburg, in fact they should just change the name of Williamsburg to Cleveland! Perhaps one day they will bring the rock & roll hall of fame with them! That would only be fitting since it would only make it easier for them to induct thereself when they grow up, they could just walk down the street!

i read thru some comments, and i find it funny as hell. this is the same "block mentality" that said about the blacks and latinos have. people just get out and enjoy the whole city. some of you are the typical whining bitches that real new yorkers diss - and straight to your face. here we have ppl complaining, the commute is too far, and don't want to pay the money for the luxury of convience, then you're scare of the black guy that might rob you if you live in a cheap area. then you might not like the type of crowd in the area whether it be hipsters or yuppies - shit next thing, you'll be like, oh too many mexicans here. you can't be in new york city, if you aren't willing to walk, the best part about this town, is that you could get to most of your destination by walking. take a train or bus, whatever, shit you get to see some fascinating stuff while on mass transit, but, no some of you are like, why that bum is begging for money or hey look at that Chinese guy playing that instrument. i mean nyc is the most welcoming place in the face of the earth, but we have lame ass mofos that plague this place like some of the above.

Too many lesbian/gay bars in park slope!

south brooklyn refers to Coney Island, Sheepshead Bay, etc. People need to get facts straight

hey, yuppies and hipsters are a lot better than guidos......i

I'm a Jersey guy moving to Brooklyn in two months. I found this whole discussion really hilarious. I spent some time in Williamsburg and I found it to be a parody of itself. Just a trendy neighborhood for the young and fashionable. I found Park Slope to be very nice and quiet, but definately a fun place to hang out. It may have been just me, but it seemed to be especially full of young mothers and lesbian grad school students. Those were my snap judgements.

The bottom line is, I will never live in either neighborhood because I will never be able to afford it. I'll be stuck next to the projects with nothing but a nine milimeter and a prayer while I kiss my white ass goodbye every night. To those who in a nice part of Brooklyn now and are tired of all the yuppie/hippie/hipster newcombers, it was you who made the neighborhood desirable in the first place. Gentrification doesn't happen over night. Now I am going to do my part to gentrify some neighborhood further afield. Wish me luck.

You hipsters and yuppies are all the same fuckin thing. You ravage are neighborhoods with your pseudo-culture, and then brand it as "NY". Honestly you can take your CT Muffin shops F.I.T. diplomas and cram it up yer asses...You are killing real NYers culture, our homes and lifestyles. The only ones who know what its like to live in the real NY are the ones who are saying what the fuck is happening to my home every time we see you asses walking down the street. Or if you lived here under the Dinkins era...You can live through that, then yeah you know.

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The top definition of Hipster as per Urban Dictionary:

People in their teens to 20s who generally listen to indie rock, hang out in coffee shops, shop at the thrift store and talk about things like books, music, films and art.

According to my highly scientific statistics,

That’s about 80% of the people who posted on this thread."

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Um, is there anything wrong with any of these things? If this is the definition of a hipster then I am one and I'm proud of it.

I work in Williamsburg and live in Park Slope to have a fairly objective take as I spend many hours in each and go out in both hoods.

Park Slope is beautiful, quiet, clean and tree-lined and full of well rounded down to earth people.

The Burg is stinky, has substandard restaurants and services even on Bedford which is supposed to be the center of hipsterdom - yah!

If you are desperate to try to be cool and look down on eveyone without oversize sunglasses move to the Burg, If you like trees, great parks, multiple express trains, main library branches and just a generally victorian experience move to the Slope - just leave your car behind :)!

The Burg is Pabst

The Slope is Stella

Seems like a no brainer to me.

park dope.

If you think that Williamsburg "hipsters" don't spend two hundred dollars on jeans then I have a majic turd to sell you.

Lived in both. Prefer Fort Greene to 'em all. Got called an ape in Greenpoint by a white woman - hence my handle. Got mostly ignored by hipster-types except for a couple of bartenders and regulars at the Mark Bar. People in Fort Greene are generally friendlier. That's what I look for in a neighborhood - community...especially in Brooklyn.

so, what whatever you do just don't try to sign up for the new rental loft building in dumbo that is located in the middle of the projects. and costs $6500 a piece, because you'll get shot by a projects dealer for being an ex-burg hipster and a ex-slope commuter. you will a dumbster!!!!!