Gothamist: Massive Greenpoint Fire "Suspicious" and Still Being Fought

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Nycexposed

Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:15:43 -0500

Sean= Nycexposed, you know were always on the scene!

ss

Fri, 05 May 2006 15:45:36 -0500

it was those jews next door hungry for land

j jackson

Thu, 04 May 2006 17:23:27 -0500

footage of the fire... http://www.archive.org/details/greenpoint_fire

b

Wed, 03 May 2006 22:13:51 -0500

It's a shame that a nice old warehouse burned down. Too bad it wasn't one of Ratner's turds, or some other piece of post-post-modern masturbation around town.

rev pays

Wed, 03 May 2006 18:27:14 -0500

Club Wildfyre was shut down, no fyremen to fight the St. George Hotel.

chelsea

Wed, 03 May 2006 17:43:22 -0500

wait, what happened at the st. george in '95?! that's where i live.

pelle

Wed, 03 May 2006 16:31:49 -0500

Sigh. You might as well use the comments that point out your mistakes to fix your poorly-written posts before you delete them.

Barry Popik

Wed, 03 May 2006 15:44:24 -0500

It's an old New York story. ... http://www.barrypopik.com/article/755/successful-fire-jewish-lightning

Mike

Wed, 03 May 2006 15:11:53 -0500

That sentence about the post was confusing. Though I don't really get the source article either. -------------------------------- "Witness Sean Vegezzi told The Post that he and some pals ran to the former terminal with their cameras at around 10 a.m. after hearing about the blaze and scurried up to one of the buildings' rooftops to take photos. There, he said, they spotted a man pouring what looked like flammable motor oil into an elevator shaft. "I said, 'Hey, what are you doing?' And he started running down the catwalk," said Vegezzi, 16. The teen said that moments earlier, they had seen the same man stuffing sticks and brush into a drainage pipe along the side of the building. "He didn't light it, but it looked like he was going to until me and my friends approached him," he said. Vegezzi described the man as slim, middle-aged, with graying hair and wearing a beige T-shirt and khakis. He said that as he and his pals were reporting what they saw to the cops, a man who identified himself as Guttman approached the group. Vegezzi said the man kept repeating, "It's not one of my guys, it's not one of my guys," before adding to cops, "You'd better catch this guy." ------------------------- I thought the fire started at 5:30am. He's saying that at 10am he saw the arsonist running around the complex put tindersticks around and dumping oil down a shaft? I was there at around 10:15 am and there were easily 200 (prob more) fire and police officials down there. I can't see the arsonist fanning the flames at that time.

Ace

Wed, 03 May 2006 15:09:02 -0500

Mr. Spade! How do you do, Mr. Guttman? You begin well, sir. I distrust a man who says "when". He's got to be careful not to drink too much... ...because he's not to be trusted when he does. Well, sir... ...here's to plain speaking and clear understanding. You're a close-mouthed man? No, I like to talk. Better and better. I distrust a close-mouthed man. He generally picks the wrong time to talk and says the wrong things. Talking's something you can't do judiciously unless you keep in practice. Now, sir. We'll talk, if you like. I'll tell you right out. I'm a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk. Swell! Will we talk about the black bird? You're the man for me, sir. No beating about the bush. Right to the point. Let's talk about the black bird, by all means.

nomoregreed

Wed, 03 May 2006 14:07:12 -0500

I say we camp out at Guttman's mansion in Lawrence. All the people who live there, have your cameras out and document everything. Everyone put a webcam out your window and record it on to your hard drive. This is the only way. We know that he's only going to get a small fine and will continue doing what he's doing. I had enough of these people, yes, these people. NO MORE! Summer's just around the corner.

matt

Wed, 03 May 2006 13:59:48 -0500

I have to agreee, this sentence made absolutely no sense to me: "The Post says some witnesses saw a man pouring 'flammable motor oil' into an elevator shaft of one of the buildings, later chasing the man, and telling authorities, only for someone calling himself 'Guttman' saying it wasn't his guy."

fiftyfootgirl

Wed, 03 May 2006 13:47:48 -0500

I live *literally* across the street from the pile of burning rubble that once was the Greenpoint Terminal. The smell is noxious, the noise is overwhelming, and this is just the beginning. First they have to finish putting out the fire (20 hours and counting), then they have to demolish the rest of the ruins, then the cleanup, and then... the development begins. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, GOOD PEOPLE OF THE BLOGOSPHERE: CALL 311 to leave a message for Mayor Bloomberg!! Tell him, "NO REWARD FOR ARSON!!" The greedy developers who are clearly responsible for this disaster should not be allowed to build luxury high-rises and retail stores that the residents here never wanted in the first place. The criminals should be put in jail- NOT allowed to profit from their crimes, and the land should be given to the city and made into a park for the residents of Greenpoint and Williamsburg who have suffered MORE THAN enough from the reckless over-development of Brooklyn!!!

c

Wed, 03 May 2006 12:51:13 -0500

i agree with the unclear and terrible writing gothamist often has. arent you embarrassed??

Rocknrope

Wed, 03 May 2006 11:57:18 -0500

Regarding the smell, it was an unpleasant reminder of 9/11, particularly augmented since I work next to Ground Zero. I left the office at 7:30 and it reeked like it did 4+ years ago.

moishe

Wed, 03 May 2006 11:46:49 -0500

sounds like a case of the old "Jewish Lightning"

Bryan Haggerty

Wed, 03 May 2006 11:31:01 -0500

Photographers traveling with the fire departments is not uncommon. My father used to do it back in the 70s. He shot for a newspaper, but many times the photos are used for things such as arson investigations.

nutmilk

Wed, 03 May 2006 11:19:14 -0500

what is this, an advertisment for Flikr?

Jim

Wed, 03 May 2006 10:24:22 -0500

Some of those pictures on Flickr are mine! Thanks! ;) I live in Williamsburg, and when I woke up yesterday morning I looked out the window and guess what I saw.... I grabbed my camera and shot a whole roll in about 10 minutes (yes -- I still use film) before heading off to work. I posted the best 5 on Flickr yesterday afternoon, but by then there were already over 100 other pictures of the same blaze. Amazing. Anyway, link: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmatthewturner/sets/72057594123435234/ :) --jim

Vinny

Wed, 03 May 2006 09:46:56 -0500

The pictures on flickr are what makes it so damned great. Think about it. We have 112 photos under one tag alone, from people who saw it, shot it, etc. The "old school" media's coverage of this was extensive, but citizens with cameras caught many more interesting photos. Simply amazing.