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Sign Posted Outside The Falls

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On the way to buy some tacos last night we happened to walk by The Falls. This sign was pasted on a bunch of poles outside. The bar itself was almost empty-- a far cry from the crowded after-work scene that it used to have on most weekdays. It's hard to imagine that the bar is going to be able to stay open that much longer with this level of business-- and it's impossible to imagine that most people in the neighborhood would feel comfortable suggesting it as a place to grab beers with office-mates, given the grisly events that took place there. Anyone want to take a guess for how many weeks the place has got left?

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  • suz

    Gwin



    Imette was drunk. Anyone can say anything when they are blitzed that they don't believe when they are sober. The fact that at least half of the attendees to her funeral were black pretty much cancels out the significance of her alleged statement, wouldn't you agree?



    How about all the stupid things blacks say about whites, Jews, Koreans, Italians, and Latins and everyone else who is not black?



    Btw--Imette St Guillen was Latina.



    You know Latinos are moving on up in the world when blacks jealously start referring to them as privileged whites.



    But hey, don't let what I wrote stand in the way of your cherished victimhood. Wouldn't want to ruin a good thing now, would I?

  • mike

    Does anyone know how many underage girls were RAPED at dorrian's?

  • Gwinny

    whatever happened to that whole thing about how St. Guillen was heard making racist remarks? not that she deserved to be murdered because of this but it does seem to point up to press whitewash (no pun intended): the "poor innocent pretty white girl" thing they love so much.

  • mickster

    Susie, thank you for stating my case in a much more eloquent manner.

  • rev pays

    They're cursed all right.

    I know one saloon owner who actually keeps the day's receipts under his mattress. A nice Ivy League grad, too.

    OK, the mattress was an exaggeration but he is making money hand over fist. Even with the smoking ban.

    Most likely the SLA won't do anything because when the bouncer was hired, they did not know he was on parole. That and their lawyers would make sure nothing will happen.

  • dar

    My grandmother used to say that people who deal with alcohol for a living (selling, manufacturing etc) are cursed.

  • anyato

    Susie said it. WELL said.



    I will say The Falls is a low-key bar & not too loud, so I never had a problem with it before (and it's the only bar on our street -- everything else is restaurants, which can actually make more of a noise problem at night because of all the endlessly-idling delivery trucks).



    But the owners of The Falls DO NOT deserve a liquor license after hiring a violent felon & not reporting it -- that's not just common sense, it's the law.

  • Susie

    were likely

  • Susie

    You could say that the Dorrians facilitated St. Guillen's murder by hiring a 7-time felon and then putting him in a position of trust where he would be interacting with patrons (some of whom where likely to be incapacitated from purchasing the Fall's alcoholic products). Not only was this in violation of the State Liquor Authority, but it was also a recipe for disaster.



    The same was true for Dorrian's Red Hand on the upper Eastside. The Dorrians had been knowingly serving underage patrons for years. It just so happened that one of them was a psychopath who killed someone in his drunk state. The killer have easily have been a inebriated driver since the bartenders at the Dorrian bars were trying to sell as much liquor as they could to their customers. Their objective was the bottom line regardless of the consequences. And--the Dorrians have made a bundle of money from their bars.

  • JESUS CHRIST

    maybe the poster was St. guillen's mother or one of her close friends. What now motherfuckers?

  • rev pays

    Already there's tourist gawking out front.

    So, I don't think they're going anywhere soon.

  • it's not just about tri-state area, what aboutthe rest of the country, there are a lot of murder victims out there.



    You know I really think people take things a bit too far sometimes, yea they hired some bouncer who probably lied to them about his parole, but I don't think they should be held accountable for his actions.

    That's like saying you should boycott Trader Joe's (That's right I went there) if one of their overly happy drugged up employees took a patron home and killed them.

  • David

    I hope the sign poster wouldn't be so provincial as to limit her concern to only NYC murder victims. Leaving out New Jersey & Connecticut stinks of racism. Doesn't this sign poster realize he or she is responsible for how the press covered the murder?!

  • John

    I'm with Josefina on this one. I hope that the sign poster has the same concern for all of NYC's other murder victims, not just the pretty front page news ones.

  • mickster

    Aristocrat:



    My point was they allowed and encouraged underaged drinking at Dorian's and profited from this illegal activity (hell, even in the early 90's, well after Chamber's murdering Levin, they were still serving underage drinkers).



    Could they both have gone elsewhere to drink and possibly meet? Sure-but Dorian's was "the place" for the preppies to go and it was because they were so lax.

  • Aristocrat

    Robert Chambers didn't work for Dorians, and Levin was killed in Central Park. Not making excuses for them, but let's keep it in perspective.

  • Not soon enough, but on the other (cynical) hand, isn't Dorrian's Red Hand still open?

  • mickster

    Does anyone else find it ironic that Robert Chambers murdered Jennifer Levin after a night of underage drinking at Dorian's on the UES where Chambers was a regular?



    They have much blood on their hands...

  • gaycurmudgeon

    Now if they could just close La Esquina, I might be able to get some sleep on the weekend.

  • josefina

    I'm partial to what's written beneath the primary comment..."I hope...."

  • realist

    Good. That scumbag Dorrian deserves it for covering his ass and allowing Littlejohn to cover up his crime. He deserves it. I hope Dorrian's on the UES goes down too.

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