The poster is a good idea. Outside of some mispelling.It didnt say anything about "lets go hunt down a sex offender and kill him!!!" It told people to warn their daughters about him.

And if the community knows about this and spots someone trying something with a young girl then he can be reported to the police. Thats how a comunity can get him regstered as a sex offender.

Arguing on the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded.

I am a police officer surrounded by pedophile enablers not sure what to do. I might be paralysed by my own history of abuse. I know the difference between right and wrong and that children should not be molested but I am caught up in a subculture of lies.

Lonely and Desperate Cop

What do you do when you serve the community as a prosecutor for almost ten years and the pedophile in the office, your boss, uses Children's Ad to apprehend your child?

What do do when you have a writing campaig of almost twelve months and you have not seen your child since September 2, 2006?

What do you do when you jnow the system of justice is corrupt and they want you attend a mock CAS hearing to get back ... maybe not even your child?

Are you justified if you shoot to kill?. Is there a court in the land (Canada) who should put a mother behind bars for protecting her child?

Let me know folks. I need to shoot now because I have writer's block.

Karen Dickson

Barrister and Solicitor

905 824-4822

Perverted Justice's alter ego site, .net, likes to say that the members of www.corrupted-justice.com are pedophiles because they oppose PJ's vigilante tactics.

No, .net says that the cj.commers are pedophiles because their founder and leader and head of the "bust interception department" is a self admitted member of NAMBLA.

For more information on Matt Carpenter visit;

http://corrupted-justice.net/?archive=22

If there were any truth behind their words they would have drummed out someone who thinks the documented, recored and used in court chat transcripts are "hot". They wouldn't coddle and defend those that prey on children and admit to being NAMBLA members.

"unemployed gamer" is quite a harsh epithet compaired to "self admitted child molester" like cj.com's founder Carpenter is.

Incidentally, what about the 35 or so contributors to PJ.com? Are they all unemployed gamers? What if the police officers that post at PJ were gamers? Is that somehow supposed to invalidate the 150 pending arrests, court cases, convictions that are currently in the pipe? How does "nasty language" compare to 50 arrests in Riverside CA in one weekend?

Actually, the only comment you made that is worth a hill of beans is the front page graphic content of perverted-justice.com Children shouldn't read it and that's why the pages are all metatagged as adult. Any "net nanny" type of software will automatically filter out PJ for kids that might try and surf to the site. Anyway, it's a bit of an oxymoron. All kids are subjected to that kind of language if they enter a yahoo chat room. They don't have to surf to perverted-justice.com, they're subjected to it online everyday by the same people that cj.com coddles and apologizes for and enables.

As to the score? I'll do the math for myself. 49 convitions are 49 less that might be grooming kids right now. Why do the founders of CJ.com complain about arrests, as in the above comment? Because they don't like to see their breatherin convited or outed on the main page of Perverted-justice.com. Cj contends that they want PJ to work with police. Until they get awesome results. In a recient thread at cj.com pedophile enablers wish for the old days of perverted justice when calls and flyers went out to warn locals. Read from London Guy at CJ.com;

This is probably their youngest one yet. The guy's only 19. While I don't condone a 19 year old hitting on a 12 year old, certainly the guy didn't deserve this. Embarrasing him would've been more than enough punishment, but to ruin his life is just going way too far.

CJ.com's dim web administrator Scott Morrow only manages to question PJ's protocols he pretends to understand.

So I wonder what happened to their age restrictions on busts? Are they ignoring it because this guy was military? (More publicity for PJ when they go after a serviceman, teacher, authority figure...)

At 19, men and women are still stupid kids that make poor judgements. They drive drunk, use drugs, etc...think they are invincible. They do really dumb things. His life may be ruined. And one of the worse things? PJ follow-uppers are digging up as we speak his parents info, his school's info, his friend's info and posting it all for everyone to see

Cj.com is filled with nothing but enablers, apologists and pedophiles themselves. It's true, you won't find rosey language at either PeeJ or corrupted-justice.net but then we don't view the world through rose colored glasses. We don't think that pedophilia is a "lifestyle choice" or some sort of right of passage.

We also don't think that the cleanest of language can hide the filthy history and dark opinions of the denizens of cj.com.

Completly missing the point that his forum is populated

Perverted Justice is just that. Perverted. They post graphic chat logs they have created themselves. "Busts" on their main page are said to be verified chat logs, the rest are submitted by their members. Why would a site that is claiming to protect children allow those children in to read that filth and view perverts playing on webcams? 4 years online, 30,000 members (they claim), and a whopping 49 arrests? Do the math. It is only recently that they have even started to involve law enforcement; for show. The owner, Xavier von Erck - not his real name by the way, he's actually Phillip Eide - is an unemployed online gamer. He needs the site to support his lazy lifestyle. Donations allow him to sit at home and play games.

Perverted Justice's alter ego site, .net, likes to say that the members of www.corrupted-justice.com are pedophiles because they oppose PJ's vigilante tactics. But go on over and read for yourself. Cj.com is a civilized, factual site. cj.net is full of filth and obscenities; a nice peek at what PJ people are really like.

This is EXACTLY what is done by cyber-vigilante groups such as perverted-justice.com. With no way of verifying the information, with no way of knowing who is making the accusation or why, with none of the facts surrounding the accusation it is simply that - A baseless and defamatory accusation.

For those that care to take the time to investigate PJ.com, they'll find that when readers of PJ post flyers there is plenty of proof. do you call it baseless when there are witness's to a crime?

Our justice system, a system that WE (as citizens) demand of our government requires more than an anonymous accusation before someone is to be punished for something. That's why we also demand trained, accountable law enforcement to deal with criminals on our behalf, not some loser do-gooder running around putting up posters

What would you do if you saw a crime? What would you do if the police didn't respond? It sounds to me like you have an axe to grind against perverted justice. It sounds to me like you seem to favor those that would abuse children.

ANYONE who bases their conclusions of guilt or innocence on the words of an anonymous coward posting fliers needs to seriously examine their ethics. While predators are certainly worthy of the harshest punishment possible, shouldn't we be doing everything in our power to ensure those being accused actually DESERVE that punishment first?

How remarkablily ironic that this person should use the term "ethics". I think you've seriously missed the point of a flyer like this. It's not to determine guilt or innocense. It's to warn people to be careful. There is a huge difference, if you can't fathom that then you should probably keep your ALL CAPS cliche's to yourself. Most people with a reasonable sense of morality can tell the difference. Most people don't find any fault with protecting their kids by excluding them from a potentially dangerous person.

Regardless if a person is convicted of a crime or not, they can still be a child molester. I'm sure that statement really bothers the poster of the quote. Plenty of men are acquited of rape on technicalities. They may not have been punished or even judged gulity, but they are still rapists and should be shunned and our children protected from them. If you don't understand that, it's your ethics that are flawed and need examination.

Those like two.oh don't have the ability to imagine what THEIR life would be like if THEY were anonymously and mistakenly accused of such a horrendous crime.
And apparently you don't "have the ability to imagine what" a CHILD'S life would be like to be raped by someone you've sheltered, enabled or apologized for simply because they haven't been thrown into jail by a seriously flawed judicial system, yet.

Courts don't make child molesters, people with the above mindset do. Protect the children first, then work to convict the rapist. To reverse these priorties, as the above poster has done, is nothing short of enabling rape and dismissing the victim. Note how the above has directed all their sympathy and compassion toward the suspect rapist.

Where is your concern for the victim? I think it best to examine your own lack of acceptable ethics before you capitalize yourself into the ranks of NAMBLA.

The poster had absolutely nothing to do with perverted-justice.com, so please stop grasping at straws. Corrupted-justice is a site only concerned that men who have inappropriate chats with what they think are little kids aren't outed. One of the members is the mother of a man(Tommy Cison)that was busted by PeeJ. Another member is an admitted member of NAMBLA. They pose as a "civil rights" group,however they are more concerned with the rights of pedophiles than with making sure kids are safe. Go to PeeJ and read the chats. Then please go to corrupted justice and see the nonsense they believe.

PeeJ does wonderful work , and have aided in the arrest of 49 men who made arrangements to meet up with children for sex. CJ.com does absolutely nothing productive for our society. Please check it out for yourselves. It's just like CJ.com to make wild accusations about PeeJ.

Don't try to pick up little kids online and you will have nothing to worry about with PeeJ.

worried and Disgusted,

What with the arrests of hundreds of possible child molesters by Law Enforcement with the help of Perverted-Justice.com your old arguments are showing which side of the pedophile fence you people at Corrupted-Justice are sitting at...

The post above looks like the work of corrupted-justice.com. While they masquerade as protecting civil rights, in no cases have actually done so, they are in fact a pro-pedophile group with motives of their own. Only they have never even begun to try to look legit! CJ isn't really everything it appears to be - Here's a group that has uncovered some pretty scary stuff about the "civil rights" group - Check it out at http://www.corrupted-justice.net.

This looks like the work of Perverted-Justice.com. While they masquerade as protecting the rights of children, and in some cases have actually done so, they are in fact a vigilante group with motives of their own. Only recently have they begun to try to look legit! PJ isn't really everything it appears to be - Here's a group that has uncovered some pretty scary stuff about the vigilante group - Check it out at http://www.corrupted-justice.com.

This is vigilantism, pure and simple.

This is EXACTLY what is done by cyber-vigilante groups such as perverted-justice.com. With no way of verifying the information, with no way of knowing who is making the accusation or why, with none of the facts surrounding the accusation it is simply that - A baseless and defamatory accusation.

Our justice system, a system that WE (as citizens) demand of our government requires more than an anonymous accusation before someone is to be punished for something. That's why we also demand trained, accountable law enforcement to deal with criminals on our behalf, not some loser do-gooder running around putting up posters.

ANYONE who bases their conclusions of guilt or innocence on the words of an anonymous coward posting fliers needs to seriously examine their ethics. While predators are certainly worthy of the harshest punishment possible, shouldn't we be doing everything in our power to ensure those being accused actually DESERVE that punishment first?

Those like two.oh don't have the ability to imagine what THEIR life would be like if THEY were anonymously and mistakenly accused of such a horrendous crime. Once the posters go up, whether correct or not, your life would very likely be destroyed... And you couldn't do squat about it because you have no idea who made the accusation - And even if you could figure it out, it's like tearing open a pillow at the top of a mountain - Mistaken or not, you'll never get all the feathers back in...

1. I wonder if these people consulted an attorney, or the police, or City Hall, to see if they are within thier rights to post this.

2. The man named...I bet he's consulted an attorney by now. If he sees one person posting this paper, thats the one he'll sue the house out from under.

3. Why didn't they just post something, hold neighborhood meetings, saying that in this day and age, we all have to look out for each others' kids? It takes a village, and all that. And...hey, when I was a kid, I knew, that the lady down the street would be on the phone to my mother, if she saw me doing something wrong. I got my ass kicked more than a few times, because the my friends' parents ratted me out-and I know my mother ratted them out. Get the kids knowing, that if everyone on the block or in the building is not just looking out for their safety, but will rat on them, to thier parents, or the police if its bad enough, if they do wrong. Looking out for someone works both ways.

4. If we went into anyone's bedroom...I bet we'd find something someone amoung us thinks is illegal or immoral. For all we know, this guy had a one night stand with a very young looking 25 year old. There's no explanation as to how the poster gets the idea that this guy is a teen raper. Hey...when I was 25, when I was 30, I still had a hard time in bars, trying to prove that I didn't have a fake license with a fake birth date on it. Those days are gone....

What a fucking waste of internet time. The two of you, go jerk off into the toilet and be done with it.

13 to 17 in the LES

is equivalent to 26 to 35 in other areas of the city. And, a bun in the oven.

I kid, I kid.

No two.oh, your obviously blowing this way out of proportion.

As you can see by the notice, the man may only be going after 13 to 17 year olds.

If theres grass on the field, play ball!

//Its a JOKE. Try not to form a support group to get me.

Haha, "pot calling the kettle back"?

zzzzzzzzzzzz

Er, how would putting up your own name offer 'credibility'? I think it offers more of a vulnerability. All I'm seeking from you, is a reason as to why this person would put this up in the first place --which neither of us know, and which you haven't seemed to imply yet.

"Which would lead to Police Action, Right? Note I didn't say Name an alleged Victim."

You didn't answer my question. Would you want to see the details in the public streets? I wouldn't. Would you?

And how do you know that by stating specific details, would lead to police action? It's an accusation without evidence of any kind. As I stated before, it's a warning.

"Your Assuming that man is guilty on the basis of a posted Note, nothing more. You have absolutely no evidence, but your wiling to keep a look out for One Man instead of being careful in general. What information would that be other than the note?"

Um, no, I replied to YOUR post because YOU had no evidence. Please tell me which makes more sense. Someone puts a warning sign about a sexual predator just to get back at someone, or someone puts up a sign because he/she/they has known about several cases.

I'm a man who requires evidence, as seen in my post about Littlejohn. However, I didn't say that the post was legitimate, did I? I was merely stating that it makes MORE sense for someone to put it up for legitimate purposes.

"And there you have it. Your sarcasm is ok, other's isn't. Nice personal attack, which I have not engaged in."

Personal attack? If I wanted to personally attack you, I'd tell you were a moron. But I don't think you are. Just refrain from being sarcastic will you? This is the third time I have to tell you this.

You're blowing this way over proportion.

rev pays, it's scary how people will foam at the mouth based on a Flyer posted by a totally anonymous stranger. Nuts.

Alright, you're obviously not here to seriously try and discuss this intelligently, so I'll just leave up my last few points. Bash if you wish.

""Why didn't the person who put that Up put their own name?"
Um, if you're trying to warn people about a potential sex offender, why would you give your name? What relevance would it have if its warning people?"

"Why not some background Info? (i.e. "He did this, he did that.")"
Um, rather, would you want to hear about how some 13 year old girl raped, posted like an advertisement on the street?

"Why Not Advice to Call 911?"
Okay, well, you have a point there, but don't you think that's already a given? You're ASSUMING that this is some sort of personal vandetta, and that someone has this 'agenda' to organize a lynch mob. Do you have any evidence?

Because I think it's far more logical (given the information here) to believe that there had been incidents that had occurred, and since there are no leads, someone (or some group) went out of their way to put these up as a warning.

"As if"? Refrain from the stupid comments, will you?

Rather than continue to feed the troll, I'm done. "two.oh", keep believing everything you read.