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<title>Sesso</title>
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<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 11:05:39 -0500</pubDate>
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<title>envy</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:14:55 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;good afternnon mytime here in cali  my name is envy i have posted once before. i have been watching this news coverage from the day this had begun and will continue intill the day this case has come to a close. as of today  breaking news stated that littlejohns blood was found  and tested and matched for dna results.. last night i sat up with my wife because  i was so frightned at the factor that there might be someone on the loose that comitted this crime as of this afternoon i felt at little at ease for the fact that they have actual evidence that states he was a prime suspect.. even though i live in cali i put together alot things that could happen to any woman.. it bothered me so bad that i even went on my space and took out my school info and what i felt a murderous killer  would want to know for there next victim... i know that sounds pretty scary but it made me think that if some individual could do this to her maybe he is looking at profiles of all woman from different schools  it made me sick and confused that i even felt uneasy in my own home. at least today i can wake up and say i feel ok that they do have evidence and they can convict him now the only thing that still bothers me is that there may or may not be someone else involved and that bothers me even more because last night i kept telling my wife while i was worried because i could not sleep is that i felt deep in my heart that in some way this man littlejohn is involved but did he actually do it and if he didnt this so called sick individual could still be out there what makes it worse is that  while i was trying to get rest i woke out of sound sleep feeling deep inside my heart that there still could be someone else out there . i hardly ever have bad feelings about things like this and when i do i know something is most indefinately wrong. maybe its my wishful thinking  but maybe thats my gift that god has gave me to profile ppl in line of work i would like to do.. i cannot say that i am a psychic but i do feel that human emotion  more than usual when it comes to things or  situation like this.. what i can say though before closing is that i can atleast get some rest after today knowing there in at least one individual in custody at this time that holds the key to what really happen. its just a matter of getting that person to talk.. my heart goes out to her mother and her sister cause i have children too and i would not want any woman nor any family memeber of friend or cousin  or anyone to feel and go through what this family has had to experience its unmoral and sad and i hope that god will prevail in this situation i would not want for no one to go through what they have gone through and what ever more eveidence they find out and discover in this case. what ever does transpire from this horrific crime i pray that the lord will ease all the pain and suffering of all the people that loved her.. envy&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Mike</title>
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<pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2006 01:28:21 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I just learned in addition to The Falls and Red Hand, the Dorrians also own a bar/club called Barna on Park Ave South and 26th. A college/frat buddy of mine is a promoter there, so I&apos;ve been there a couple times to get VIP treatment. The last time I was there, about a month ago, I was standing outside around 4am, when someone from behind broke a bottle over my head. I turned around and saw the piece of scum running around the corner like a coward. But I was told by everyone who saw it happen that he came from inside Barna. What is with the Dorrians and hiring/attracting shady characters?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>anon.ny</title>
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<pubDate>Sat, 11 Mar 2006 09:40:14 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&apos;s a theory:  Littlejohn had almost a whole week to cover his tracks and destory evidence because Danny Dorrian misled the cops.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>here's a theory</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 21:55:13 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&apos;s a theory.  Littlejohn didn&apos;t do it, but the NYPD have been trying SO HARD to make evidence fit to make it look like he did that the real killer is probably in Manitoba by now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>sorry</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:47:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Does anyone really think the good ole Irish NYPD is going to get the Irish Superstars of NYC- The Dorrians in trouble?

I could see Jack Dorrian telling them, &quot;your going to send my son to jail for some drunk spanish whore&quot;?

Blame the black man. Damn shame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>duchessofnyc</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 17:33:12 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;what&apos;s the protest about or for? &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>YeahOkay</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:41:34 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that deng is an ignorant idiot, along with a host of others.  Glad that free speech allows them to express their idiocy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:11:18 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;here&apos;s a theory: speculation at this point is silly.  the evidence is just starting to come in.  we still need DNA evidence, and the other data thus far is inconclusive.  rather than exercise our imaginations and prejudices, let&apos;s see what the evidence shows.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Freddie Bean</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:39:43 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&apos;s a thoery. She was the last customer to at the bar right? So says the bartender right? But he&apos;s known to be a liar. Okay now, from the bar accounts there seemed to be two bartenders and two bouncers left at the bar with Imette at closeing, right? They&apos;ve noticed that she&apos;s come in by herself they keep giving her drinks, the bartender strikes up a conversation. She might have blurt out in a drunken stoop that her best friend was a light weight and bailed on her. So now he concludes that no one knows she&apos;s here so he and the others plot to have a little fun with her. So the spike her drink (there was no confrontation with Imette getting upset about not being able to finish her drink, like what was stated in the media) he (bartender) has Littlejohn and other bouncer kick her out. Both bouncers take her out. Other bouncer leaves Littlejohn and Imette. Littlejohn keeps up a conversation with Imette right outside the backdoor while the two bartender prepare to have fun. The two bartenders sneak up behind her somehow (hence the muffled scream they reported) she puts up a fight which makes the men angry so they start to beat her. Drag her through the trap door (the one that the police find) to the basement where the two bartenders, possibly Littlejohn and even possibly the other bartender was in on it. In the basement they take there anger out on her they all repeatedly rape and torture poor Imette for hours. Before finally killing her and having Littlejohn and possibly one other person dump her body off. Maybe Littlejohn didn&apos;t want to participate but was forced to because of his record and Dorrian knew that. The the other person that was sent to dump the body with Littlejohn, felt bad as Littlejohn did so they decide to call 911. The NYPD need to look more closely into this Dorrian. I think he might be a big player in this game.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:39:08 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&apos;s a thoery. She was the last customer to at the bar right? So says the bartender right? But he&apos;s known to be a liar. Okay now, from the bar accounts there seemed to be two bartenders and two bouncers left at the bar with Imette at closeing, right? They&apos;ve noticed that she&apos;s come in by herself they keep giving her drinks, the bartender strikes up a conversation. She might have blurt out in a drunken stoop that her best friend was a light weight and bailed on her. So now he concludes that no one knows she&apos;s here so he and the others plot to have a little fun with her. So the spike her drink (there was no confrontation with Imette getting upset about not being able to finish her drink, like what was stated in the media) he (bartender) has Littlejohn and other bouncer kick her out. Both bouncers take her out. Other bouncer leaves Littlejohn and Imette. Littlejohn keeps up a conversation with Imette right outside the backdoor while the two bartender prepare to have fun. The two bartenders sneak up behind her somehow (hence the muffled scream they reported) she puts up a fight which makes the men angry so they start to beat her. Drag her through the trap door (the one that the police find) to the basement where the two bartenders, possibly Littlejohn and even possibly the other bartender was in on it. In the basement they take there anger out on her they all repeatedly rape and torture poor Imette for hours. Before finally killing her and having Littlejohn and possibly one other person dump her body off. Maybe Littlejohn didn&apos;t want to participate but was forced to because of his record and Dorrian knew that. The the other person that was sent to dump the body with Littlejohn, felt bad as Littlejohn did so they decide to call 911. The NYPD need to look more closely into this Dorrian. I think he might be a big player in this game.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Laura</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 14:15:35 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Regarding the carpet fibers being so common, that it is inconclusive: this is probably true as it regards the likelihood that a jury would or should find a guy guilty in a potential death-penalty crime if this is the best &apos;forensic&apos; evidence prosecutors have.

However, assume that one in 1,000 homes in NYC have this carpet (a very generous assumption the carpet company would love to be true); this means the odds of any particular individual having the carpet is very low - .1%.  If innocent, the chance that Darryl Littlejohn (last person to be seen with the victim of a gruesome crime) would this carpet were not at all high. Indeed, there was a 99.9% chance that he would NOT have a carpet matching the fibers found on the victim. 

Well, it&apos;s either an extraordinary beating of the odds, or the fellow is guilty. 

If his carpet fibers do indeed match those found on victim, I think we all should be hoping that the police find even more conclusive evidence against this guy because if they don&apos;t, the likelihood that a violent, savage murderer will remain on the streets is high.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>fullofit</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 13:16:11 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;So what are we saying the NYPD sucks?
They never caught Sarah Fox&apos;s killer? Remember that?
They tried blaming that guy Sheinman.
They also called Sarah Fox&apos;x killer, a serial killer whos a sexual psychopath.

I&apos;m sorry but they don&apos;t have enough evidence to convict littlejohn. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Tim N.</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:55:31 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Funny, dude.  &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>rosey</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:52:43 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;So if littlejohn didnt do it than who did?
It was someone at the bar, so why doesn&apos;t he talk?
Cause hes involved with the murder-the guy is done. Maybe the Dorrian guys all raped and cut her up in the back and they gave her to littlejohn to tape up and dump off.
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>rev pays</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:51:33 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I think that fugitive recovery sketch was from another rape that occurred and they think it&apos;s him.
I&apos;ve noticed they&apos;re putting glasses on Littlejohn in some sketches, don&apos;t know if it&apos;s real or photoshopped.
He was in two line ups, so far, no on ID&apos;ed him.
That included having the line up say something to jog the victims memory.
As was summarized above, the carpet fibers found were so common, it&apos;s inconclusive.
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<title>deng</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:47:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Some of us has to work as well. Has anything changed? This sicko (also known as Nazi in his neighbourhood) who has been posing as federal agent should have been behind bars. I blame liberal laws for that. Thank god he will be sent to jail in any case. Best scenario for him is that somebody else may have been also involved. Does anybody really believe that he may not be guilty?? You are hopeless. 
By the way, I see several racists rants in this board some of which were targeted at me and some at the white victim (&quot;she got what she deserved&quot; for perhaps making racially charged joke about this sicko - btw, doesn&apos;t that also confirm that sicko is guilty??). Anyway, I have to say this is not the first time I (as a recent immigrant) have encountered racism in this country from far-left activists who claim to be against racism. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>just saying</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:43:05 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;That police drawing of Littlejohn looks a lot different than his mugshot photo.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>rev pays</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:37:58 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Today was also the first time I saw Littlejohn having his head covered by cops when entering the precinct or rikers. Or, wherever he was being transported to. 
&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>hahahaha</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:30:30 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;it&apos;s funny how all the right-wing idiots like deng and others who were calling for lynching littlejohn are silent today.  

look, i don&apos;t know if littlejohn was involved in this murder or not, but i do know that making a case before all the evidence is gathered is short-sighted.  just because a guy has been involved in a crime before doesn&apos;t mean that he&apos;s automatically guilty whenever another crime happens.

and the best part is that i know that edex, deng and the rest of you guys will in no way admit to having done anything wrong if littlejohn turns out to be inncent of this crime.  there&apos;s humor in that, i think.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:25:25 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;From the AM New York Article:

&quot;Littlejohn, detectives suspect, may have been set off by a racial comment that witnesses said St. Guillen made just before the bar closed for the night.&quot;

Wow, the facts are slowly starting to leak out.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>tien</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:26:01 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;i gotta get me one of those hats.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:17:07 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;She wasn&apos;t hot; she was drunk, short and probably stinking bad at that hour;
It certainly was a third person involved, someone who was pretty f*cked up the same around there;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>edex</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:14:20 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;Why would Littlejohn keep anything to himself? He&apos;s up for rape and murder with an previous rap sheet a mile long. he&apos;s 41 if he&apos;s convicted of this crime he faces life with NO parole... that would be enough for me to rat anyone out... he has no loyalty to anyone at this bar.

tim raises a great theory. perhaps someone else at the bar, (not littlejohn) brought her to the basement and raped her... maybe she was killed at the bar or elsewhere... perhaps she was raped then escorted out to the van where she was then dumped... regardless of who did it, if the police link any evidence to littlejohn, hair, skin, blood... he&apos;s gonna take the brunt of the blame.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>Tim N.</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 11:03:22 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;How&apos;s this?  Bartender, son of bar owner, sees girl drinking, possibly stood-up, hanging out until closing time, thinks she&apos;s hot, makes a move, gets nowhere, gets blue balls, has her thrown out, sees her on the street arguing with her bouncer, takes her inside, makes another move, gets violent, commits said crimes, turns to bouncer and says get her our of here or I&apos;ll call your parole officer, make it look like a psycho thing, guy panics, puts her in the van, takes van home, cleans up, takes van to Fountain Ave, dumps body, calls from pay phone in diner so he can&apos;t be traced, then has bar boy turn on him.  

Okay, far-fetched... maybe... though not as far-fetched as the bouncer-planted-fake-semen theory (it&apos;s a little known guy secret that we usually carry a vial around when bar-hopping).  But if I see it on L&amp;O I&apos;m suing. 

And here&apos;s the thing... did anyone read the interview with Jack Dorrian?  Methinks the barman doth protest too much...

(On the other hand, 99% of the time the simplest answer is the answer... he did it.  But it is odd that with all the tests they haven&apos;t been able to nail down something more conclusive.) 

It&apos;s Friday.  I&apos;m rambling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<title>rev pays</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:51:49 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;With all the stuff taken out of the home, you&apos;d think there was a gut renovation going on.
Anyway, on the 11pm news, they mentioned they found blood on some pipes and it could be a lead, seconds later the reporter stated it&apos;s not the correct blood evidence. (not really seconds later, more like before he could finish his sentence, that&apos;s how much inaccurate facts are out there)
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<title>Ivan</title>
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<pubDate>Fri, 10 Mar 2006 10:39:50 -0500</pubDate>
<description>&lt;p&gt;I&apos;d say round&apos;em up all - the bar staff, put&apos;em on grill and close the f*cking hole!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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