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Scott - To answer your question, yes. You don't pay if you cross into Manhattan via Queensboro, Williamsburg, Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges.

Like I said above, make them EZ Pass mandatory and you got yourself a de facto congestion charge.

This is very disappointing that city would even conceive of this simply because there are already charges in place to enter manhattan at all the bridges and tunnels (am I wrong?). Having to pay additional fares to enter specific parts of the city is just asinine and is another cheap trick to stick it to commuters. I'm no expert on city dynamics and traffic and all that, but from my observations, it seems that most of the traffic in Manhattan (at least during the day) is due to commercial vehicles, cabs, buses, and of course pedestrians! Auto commuters are an issue, but the streets are plenty full even without them.

In conclusion, Manhattan is already an island, so no congestion charges. PS, I have been living for the past year in London so I have seen how this works. Its not fun.

I have a much simpler solution to congestion—ban parking. Think about it.

Horrible idea. This is the same concept as to alleviate traffic we must build more highways and roads. Nothing will be solved; people will just end up paying the tolls. Traffic at the Triboro? Tolls? Not a problem, people still pay them.

Plus, what about the people who live within the city and need to commute elsewhere in the city for work? Like one who lives in Manhattan who needs to get to Queens for work, such as I did this past summer. A car made my life so much easier, it cut my commute time from 1hr10min to 35-45mins, and I didn't have to deal with hot sweaty platforms and daily bomb scares. There was traffic, but I ran into so many problems with the subway that I was content with my car. Give me a break.

A great idea, long overdue.

Yes, it will cause problems for people who have chosen commutes inconvenient to mass transit -- but that's the whole point, and it's a temporary issue. Over time people will reconfigure to adopt to the new rules, producing the reduction in congestion.

Changing people's behavior away from the status quo will always involve making the status quo significantly less palatable than the alternative. Unless you put an extra cost on driving cars into midtown, people will always drive there up to the point where it becomes hopelessly congested.

Not necessarily regressive either -- if it's the rich folks continuing to use cars paying the taxes to fund public transport, you're arguably moving funds in a progressive manner. And pollution affects all of us equally so the benefit in that aspect is spread similarly.

I remember there was some talk of adding toll to East River crossings. Right now, you only pay toll if you go in through Triborough Bridge or Midtown Tunnel. Wouldn't be such a bad idea to make the other bridges EZ Pass only, would it?

stupidest. idea. evah.

alex, I believe there are dispatchers at some bus stops checking when a bus arrives and tells them either to hold on a few mins or to drive away.

Of course, I only see them during the rush hr.

And, it is frustrating to see a bus logging along an empty ave but what can you do. You're going to get the same driver daily unless you wait for the next bus. (I only use the limited)

Brightliner, I don't know what's worse, you actually believing the bus drivers follow the schedule or that YOU actually expect the bus to arrive at your stop at a certain time. I guess you also believe that the tooth fairy will give you a quarter for every one of your teeth. This isn't Tokyo where the train engineers crash their trains just trying to get to the station on time. Not once in my life while waiting for the bus under non-rush hr circumstances did the bus EVER arrived at the time they were suppose to.

How about a ban on single-passenger vehicles instead? Only car-poolers, buses, taxis and trucks for light industry.

It worked to lighten traffic after 9/11.

Uh, why don't we just hike up the tolls? Isn't the current ez pass solution an attempt at congestion pricing? Just make it go all the way.

What if cars into/out of NYC = $15 during rush hours in rush direction, and it goes down $2 for every person in it.

And yes, add tolls to the bridges too. No free in or out.

Someone said (or written in the DMV manual), driving is a privlege, not a right, and it's true.

Why this city has so many drivers is beyond me, the lines at the DMV are crazy. We're not talking 2 cars per household now but four. (if you're seinfeld, fifty cars)

Cabs and other Livery, in addition to delivery trucks which service the economy, should be exempt from this and I expect they will be. If only pay-per-ride cars like taxis and delivery trucks were on the streets they would be a LOT less congested. However these vehicles have a track record of being the most hazardous to cyclists...

Um, as long as rich people PAY for a way arround something I got no problem with that. Or are we all intitled to limosine rides home? Same with livery and taxis- you will pay for the added cost, again, no problem with that. Sounds like a great idea.

In defense of the buses, the people complaining that they never speed up need to remember something called "schedules." If bus drivers floored it whenever they got an open street, then the same people would probably be whining that the bus came and left early so they missed it and why couldn't the damn drivers stay on time?