Gothamist: 2005 State of the Subways: 6 Train Rules, N Train Awful

ken f

Sun, 21 Aug 2005 21:55:30 -0500

How does one find out which subway lines are out at a particular time? On Saturday, 8-20-05, the M line was not running in Brooklyn. Sat. Nite, the 4,5, and 6 were not running up town from Fulton. How is one to know in advance?

interesting_howard

Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:07:26 -0500

The two only diverge in the lower part of their route, esp in Brooklyn. Perhaps it's the Brookylnites that are to blame.

Howard

Fri, 12 Aug 2005 08:04:51 -0500

Here's something sort of interesting. Two trains on the same line (The N and the W) are both the cleanest and dirtiest in the system - respectively, according to the report. Hmm...

ryan

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:14:01 -0500

It actually warms my heart a bit that no one notices/remembers/can locate the G train. If the straphangers can't find us, then terrorists definitely won't...

kristin

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:05:26 -0500

Actually I think the A is the longest train.

moses supposes

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:29:43 -0500

Hello! this poll is so seriously flawed. The N train is the biggest vein in the public transport system. Everybody takes that train. Of course people are gonna complain about it. It's like comparing new york to missouri in a poll of 100 people and asking them who is more courteous. People will say missouri even though they've never been there. I've never taken any other trains besides the N,r, b,d,f,q,and the 5,6 and 7. How would you rate the other trains if you've never taken them? I take the N,R and 6 in lower manhattan and I think the N is more reliable than the 6. But maybe the N sucks when you get to uptown. How do they conduct this poll?

Jamie

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:28:02 -0500

The G train did not receive a rating as it has now moved to the Horrible Train Hall Of Fame and is therefore ineligible for further consideration. : ) Jamie

Jack

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 11:21:32 -0500

"The subway system was never designed to offer everyone a seat during rush hour, particularly at the most crowded point along the route." That quote reminds me of this great "Taking of Pelham One-Two-Three" quote from Frank Correll: "Screw the goddamn passengers! What the hell did they expect for their lousy 35 cents - to live forever?"

johnny G

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:28:42 -0500

Elayne: the note at the bottom of this chart explains that "the G train recieves no rating as reliable crowding data is unavailable." http://www.straphangers.org/statesub05/chart2.pdf

Dave H.

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:15:17 -0500

I think the 6 train runs more frequently than other lines for the simple reason that it is the only line serving the East Side (with the 4/5 running express). I'd be curious to see a breakdown of the number of riders per line and the frequency of trains. From my experiences, I've found no trains are more crowded during rush hours than the 6.

joh

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:03:29 -0500

Let's not forget to mention that the cover photo on the Straphangers report is by nyc phoblogger Travis Ruse...

kristin

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 10:01:19 -0500

I'm surprised the 2/3 wasn't higher since I think those lines also have the newer cars. And as far as service goes, I dont' find the 6 that great, at least during pm rush hour. It's quite often slow to come. Another oddity is that at least half the afternoons they have some of the downtown 6 trains skip astor place, spring, and canal. Aside from the inconvenience of not being able to get off at my stop, I've been curious for months why this is. Does anyone know why they do this, or is it just to keep the trains moving faster?

smitty

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:52:17 -0500

Yesterday morning at 9:38 I waited over 15 minutes for the N train at Pacific Street. So annoying! The N train does suck.

dude

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:29:02 -0500

The 6 train has to be good for the simple reason that its the only line to and from the UES. Furthermore, a majority of midtown and downtown businessmen/women, and most of them pay larger amounts towards city and state income taxes. Additionally, Wall Streeters give more to Pataki than any other group in the city (they give equivalent amounts to Democratic hopefuls, but that's because they like to hedge their bets). So, the fact that the 6 train gets more money and service than other lines is hardly surprising. If the 6 went down as often as the F or N for example, the city would be in worse financial shape than it is . What's surprising, though, is that given all of the power and money off of the 6 line, they haven't been able to push the 2nd Avenue line harder and get it done. If there's one disaster or bombing on the 6, and that line goes down for any signifcant period of time, the city is going to have a huge mess on its hands.

Dorfie

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:18:04 -0500

I love the bears! where can I get one?

Elayne

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:08:39 -0500

How come the G train isn't even on the Report Card??!

Goldman

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 09:02:26 -0500

FEWER breakdowns, not 'less breakdowns'.

Marilyn

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:36:27 -0500

Awww the 7 Bear gets no love. :(

tien

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:27:06 -0500

i must get a G train bear!!

Jen

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 08:18:15 -0500

I do not know where the Z bear is.