LES Asked to Conserve Electricity

Swamp coolers only work when it's relatively dry. NYC is muggy as my nutsack, so those gadgets won't do a thing but drip water all over your floor.

You guys are still using air conditioners? What a waste of money!

You are all wrong. Chelsea (west of 5th Ave, north of 14th, south of 34th) was the last neighborhood to get their power back during the blackout. It was around 11PM. And this should tell you all something. Con ed is not classist. Nor do they hate hipsters. They are obviously homophobic. (sarcasm)

Cascas, Kojak. GO suck a fuck. Sure you can blame people for energy consumption at their own leisure. You want to blame Iraq on us go ahead. You are such douches. Telling people what to do. Who are you to judge? let's look at your own life and we can find a lot of fault's there. I bet both of you probably waste a whole heaping ton of energy throughout your life and here you are on your high horse comparing people who want to use energy to their liking to scum of the earth and when that doesn't work you'll call us nazis like the communists you are.

Wait....no Nazi implications? What about the Hittites?

Just in case, i'm turning my AC up to 78, maybe 80 degrees.

also, the LES area they give includes where I live in the East Village. But guess what, I'm keeping my AC on!

URL:

http://www.wnbc.com/news/4807497/detail.html

FYI:

The request for Harlem gives specific boundaries that include Morningside Heights.

See here:

http://www.conedison.com/inews.htm

I think I spot a troll, but anyhow...

Go ahead Jenna, use as much electricity as you want. Just don't blame us when the whole city's under 20ft of water due to the global warming you helped cause...

I think we should turn off the A/C and put on swim trunks.

You truly are insane. Are you really this ditzy or are you joking?

And what does the World Train Center tragedy have to do with the topic currently under discussion?

So, what about those people who died in the Word Trade Center? Do you justify their deaths cause they wasted, splurged and took everything for granted so they had bad karma and died horrible deaths? You are such an asshole to say that. who are you to dictate how much energy we should use? what a fucking dick!

loll

Wow. your such a waste of life. Go ahead, waste, splurge, take everything for granted. But one day when your caught in a situation where it all vanishes, I expect you'll do nothing else but wither away and die.

Hopefully most people are not as foolish as you are. I wouldn’t want another blackout in this heat.

yeah, why not. if you are you wanna waste your money on ac when you are out of the house that's your prerogative. I wouldn't cause it's bad for your air con to leave it on all day but whatever. Yeah who are you to tell people how to use their energy? are you the Electric gestapo? It's a free country you damn republican. First you'll tell people to conserve energy then tell people they need to keep their babies. it never ends with people like you. I'm PRo choice baby. The choice to waste electricity that I paid for.

No Shit.

So I should stop using electricity all together? I use only what I need and within reasonable limits. And that is acceptable.

"If I wanna use 4000 kw/hr. I'll use it cause I paid for it." So If i used your approach, I should keep my AC on while im out of the house, because hey... I'm paying for it.

Asinine Indeed

kojak, how the hell did you write this emessage. You used a computer that used ELECTRICITY. shut up you hypocrite.

Jenna Terrorcon = Glutton

Its people like you who're running this planet into the ground.

Go outside and hug a tree.

cascas asshole, of course I understand the laws of thermodynamics. How the fuck do plants use the energy from the sun? it's called photosynthesis. they convert sun energy right? fuck yuo very much.

I think Jenna needs to go read and understand the three laws of thermodynamics before making stupid-ass comments like that.

Yeah, screw the Coned hipsters. Obviously they haven't installed enough transformers on the LES. The professional whiners on the upper west side probably have extra transformers. The LES got their electricity back on last too. Crank up the electricity until they install more transformers.

Diabolix, how is racism if they just do it to lower income areas? Aren't there poor white people that live in those areas too? racism has to do with race right? Or are you talking street lingo and racism means "bad" which means "good" in ebonics like "Ill and Dope" mean. Like that's "RACISM YO!" HOLLA BACK!

IT's 105 degrees outside. Do you know how much energy it takes to heat a room to 105 degrees if it was winter? how can we not harness this power? Are all the scientists stupid? I remember my 85 sony walkman used to work on 2 AA batteries for 2 hours. Now my 2004 discman works for 55 hours on one stinking AA battery. So they are lying if there isn't ways to make electric use more conservative. how is that possible?

well you guys conserve and be obedient slaves if you want to. I'm sitting at home with my 18,000 btu air con going fullblast with my vornado fan while watching Constantine(which sucks balls by the way) on my 55 inch tv. I guess I won't use the dishwasher if that will help.

they probably singled out washers, dryers, and AC units because they are the largest energy-consuming appliances in a house (aside from the fridge which they probably consider to be essential).

jenna, you can save a lot more energy through conservation than solar or wind power is capable of producing. conservation is much cheaper and easier than ratcheting up to meet the 'use everything i can afford' mentality. you can get tax breaks to install solar panels if you think it's a good idea, but you'll discover that you can save more by simply changing your lightbulbs to flourescents than spending several thousand dollars on pv panels.

it's not only the providers' fault there is an energy crisis, it's also the consumers that don't take any responsibilty for what they do. cell phone usage doesn't pollute the air and water or rely on diminishing resources so conservation isn't very important. big difference.

doesn't the fact that any company would ask it's customers to use less of what they are selling say something about the situation?

Who cares if it's racist? I'm white and I live in Midtwown. I don't give a fuck! I for one am happy we haven't found tupac and biggie's killers even though they were shot in broad daylight in front of hundreds of people. But one white girl disappears from bumblefuck aruba and you got the aruban authorities, the americans, and the dutch! all stopping time to find her ass. 3 countries trying to find one white girl. hahahahahah.

NYC should take Tokyo's lead, and put trees on the top of their tall buildings. The trees cut down on carbon monoxide emissions which leads to cooler temps in the city. That would lead to less electricity use.

hi davey--

Just curious--what time did the power come back on in the Flatiron district? The power came on at around a quarter after 9pm on that Friday. The Village Voice also believes that the LES was the last neighborhood to get its power as well.

Density is higher in the LES, so on one hand, you could argue that we use less power per capita, and thus this request is unfair. Also, I suspect there are less devices in use (half the tenants in my building don't have window units; a dishwasher? excuse me while I chuckle for a moment), again, unfair. Not to mention we have a big honking -- and recently expanded -- ConEd plant in our neighborhood, so maybe we should get first cut of that power. The UES can build their own damn plant.

lois, you're wrong. the flatiron district was the last to get it's power back after the blackout.

i swear, sometimes new york seems like a third world country. "sorry, we don't have enough electricity for you, even though it's almost 100 degrees and humid as hell"? that's your job, con ed. find some electricity and shut up.

Buildings are old down here.. not efficient, lotta holes, and also a-lotta jam boxes pumpin' out sweet music.

Anyway. There was a bunch of action in the same spot this morning as well. There were a bunch of dudes in yellow suits, a bunch of trucks, and water pouring down the road into the sewer grate, presumably coming from one of the many firetrucks. Where they there all night? Any clues?

It's not so hard, people. Don't run every appliance in your house during peak hours. (If you have a dishwashser, run it in the evening.) Don't run your air conditioner when you're not home.

Jenna Terrorcon, you make no sense. It's okay to waste whatever you can afford? We shouldn't have to conserve energy because solar power exists, though we don't have the infrastructure here? BTW, ConEd is highly regulated, they can't jack up the price that easily (this aint Cali).

If electricity is that easily rerouted and there is a conspiracy, why not take power from Bushwick or Bed Stuy or East New York, or Washington Heights? Those are poorer neighborhoods than the East Village. Why not Chelsea? They have projects in Chelsea, that makes them mixed. Right, Lois? I call bullsh*t.

Whatever the cause, ConEd is reducing power to those three neighborhoods. Waste your energy if you want, I'll be chillin' uptown while you read by candlelight and sweat.

to diabolix--

I think you misread who wrote which comment. The poster name is directly below the comment, NOT above. I wrote this comment: Actually, the LES is mixed. Take it from someone who actually lives on it. Another interesting note: the LES was the last neighborhood to get its electricity back after the big blackout.

--lois aida

Kate, the real issue is the wiring in those neighborhoods; Harlem, Lower East Side and Fort Greene.

The infrastructure is old and dingy. And since the neighbohoods sat in decay at varying points during the 1970s/1980s there was no real rush to fix things up.

So now, there are more people and the neighborhoods are 'fixed up' in a way. But at the same time the Con Ed wiring simply can't handle the demand.

The irony of these backlash complaints from Kate and the like is that if Con Ed did upgrade the system by ripping up the streets and laying new wiring, they would still complain that the construction is making life 'unbearble'.

I grew up and have lived in this city during varying degrees of good/bad here. And stuff like this is just a fact of life. Things break. Things need to be fixed and somethings seemingly never get dealth with (ie: the crappy sewage system in SoHo). Deal with it or move out and let other people who can deal with it move in.

Pull your head out of the sand Kate. While I would like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, I have serious doubts that the power load of the LES, Harlem and Fort Green would even begin to equal the amount of power used by the UES/UWS and there are just as many older buildings/infrastructure there as in LES/Harlem/Fort Green. The volume of people is just too large to legitimately use that as a justification. There are also noted omissions such as Morningside Heights which is rich, rather white and was not asked to reduce it's consumption or how about SoHo, again, rich, relatively white and not asked to reduce it's consumption. Need I go on?

Pull your head out of the sand Lois. While I would like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, I have serious doubts that the power load of the LES, Harlem and Fort Green would even begin to equal the amount of power used by the UES/UWS and there are just as many older buildings/infrastructure there as in LES/Harlem/Fort Green. The volume of people is just too large to legitimately use that as a justification. There are also noted omissions such as Morningside Heights which is rich, rather white and was not asked to reduce it's consumption or how about SoHo, again, rich, relatively white and not asked to reduce it's consumption. Need I go on?

ConEd workers are hipsters, Jenna Terrorcon? The lower East side really has changed since I lived there! No more Mean Staten Island Frank whose hairy ass crack always made an appearance when ever the super blew all the fuses with his illegal grow lights in the basement? So sad the little kids missed the old days.

Yes, it's possible there is racism going on. But it could be other things to? I imagine the buildings in those neighborhoods are older, and probably have less energy-conserving appliances than neighborhoods like the UES/UWS. Perhaps they're using my electricity?

Actually, the LES is mixed. Take it from someone who actually lives on it.

Another interesting note: the LES was the last neighborhood to get its electricity back after the big blackout.

What you talking about? lower east side is ritch bitch!

Let me get this straight, Con Ed is asking the Lower East side, Harlem and Fort Green ONLY to "conserve" energy and to only use essential electrical appliances. Hmmm, sounds to me like they are targeting traditionally lower income neighborhoods to take the brunt of this "conservation" of resources. What about telling people on the Upper East and West Sides to conserve energy? This is thinly veiled racism and should be considered as such.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing hipsters ask people to conserve energy. I fucking pay for my electric bitches. If I wanna use 4000 kw/hr. I'll use it cause I paid for it. It's like asking people to only use 25 minutes on their phone. Why? I paid for those minutes I use. I don't understand. It's 105 DEGREES TODAY! Do you know how much energy we could harness from that? These energy conglomerates trying to ration energy from an archaic source. If we could just outfit solar cells on the tops of 50 percent of buildings we'd have shade and an alternative hybrid source of energy. But the monopolies tell us to conserve energy. Conserving energy is codeword for "hey it's scarce so we are gonna jack up the price"

Yeah, there was a big explosion on 3rd and B. Several apartments, (and maybe a Chinese Restaurant?) were damaged. The suspicious thing is that a Con Ed truck was there BEFORE the explosion, working in a manhole/basement, depending on whom you asked.

Pretty big fire, that damaged apartments at least up to the 3rd floor. Several engines responded, however, and pretty quickly put it out.

The power did go out in our apartment (across the street) -- as a result of all the circuit breakers tripping.

How would you like to come home to a Red Cross guy explaining that your apartment had been blown up/burned out by Con Ed? Would they at least give you a (hefty!) credit on you bill?