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Subway House Rules

The Daily News has a list of the various transit rules being proposed by the MTA. The Transit Authority is getting to vote on a number of measures now that the proposed subway photography ban is dead and buried. The new rules seem like some hilarious fining fun:

- Placing a foot on a seat or platform bench - $50
- Wearing skates - $100
- Standing on a skateboard - $100
- Riding a scooter - $100
- Fare evasion (claiming a Metrocard is damaged or that the turnstile isn't working)- $60
- Walking between subway cars - $75
The fine for walking between subway cars does seem a bit much - what about those times there's a really smelly person on the train? One man, though, tells the Daily News, "I believe there should be a ban so people don't have to risk going through the experience I went through," as he lost part of his right arm and left leg in a 1985 accident while walking between cars. Gothamist would like to fine people who don't get up for the elderly or pregnant women or people with small children. The worst was when we saw a pregnant lady with a two year old child in tow that had to stand for more than eighty blocks. The lack of humanity!

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  • striker05

    There has been a crackdown on walking between car doors on the uptown E train during the morning rush hour. Be on the lookout for Officer Joel Estevez. He's a heavyset Hispanic guy in his 30s, with a shaved head and a medium complexion. He usually wears baggy jeans or shorts and an oversized sports jersey. He has sometimes been spotted wearing goggle-type glasses. Estevez often works with a partner - a white guy in his 40s with salt-and-pepper hair and a black goatee. If you look closely, you can usually see Estevez's radio sticking out of his pocket. He usually boards the train downtown and sits in the middle of the car, peering through both adjoining car windows for violators. He generally exits the train at the command post at 34th Street.

  • tony

    According to Channel 4 and the Post, spreading of the legs, or otherwise taking up more than one seat is one of the news fineable offenses.

    http://www.wnbc.com/traffic/5451202/detail.html

  • Anonymous

    According to Channel 4 and the Post, spreading of the legs, or otherwise taking up more than one seat is one of the news fineable offenses.

    http://www.wnbc.com/traffic/5451202/detail.html

  • broken

    i walk with a cane. i often ask for a seat, and yet i've been denied on more than one occasion, including when i've asked for designated seats. i put myself in front of the seats and have seen many people look at my cane and me before denying me (never vocally, of course—always closing eyes or continuing to read, etc.).

    i agree that it is the best idea to ask. most people readily oblige. however, it is also worthwhile to note that subway doors close quickly. a person with a physical disability must enter the car, walk toward a seat, ask and then wait for an "answer" while the train begins moving. painful jerks, twists, and falls result.

    it is unreasonable to ask for a fine for such behavior. but perhaps, readers of gothamist, my comment will make you a bit more aware of what the disabled experience on the subway. if you notice someone struggling, why not help out?

  • smazenymiller

    Like the rest of the MTA these Ideas just suck. Can we please do something to get rid of the completely useless bags of #@it that just sit behing the entrance boths?! Ask them a question...Nothing What do they do? Besides cost us money? I have never seen one of these bas#@!# serve a useful purpose, and I just know deep down in my soul they are making the same amount as out Public school teachers. Arrrgh

  • hijiki

    except for the designated seats, it should be the responsibility of the elderly, disabled and pregnant to ask for a seat, not up to the sitter to make the offer. often you can't tell and some people take offense if you insinuate that they are old or pregnant when they may only be fat. anyway, who are you going to fine? the entire car? i've never seen someone get denied a seat when they ask... if the person they ask refuses, the person next to them often apologizes for their lack of consideration and gives up their seat. seriously, if you need the seat, asking is the best way to get it.

  • sp

    oh, and people who bring their bikes on the train. you have a bike, ride it!

  • girl

    $2,000 for not standing up (or at least OFFERING your seat) for the elderly, pregnant women, women with young children, and ESPECIALLY people with canes, crutches, or casts.

  • sp

    its not just men. I've seen women not get up for a woman who was pregnant and had another kid by the hand. keep the sexist remarks to yourselves on either side, people behave like selfish assholes on the train. I also cant stand people who "hog the pole", kids who play their g-unit beats on their speaker phones that sound lke shit but they still think theyre in a music video, door blockers, eaters, and people who use the subway to move large furniture

  • sk

    HAHA...good one, smitty....I wonder if they're trying to air out their sissy pants or something. And the knee-rubbing when you do force in next to them on principle is quite nasty to endure.

    Is there a fine for rubbing one's pecker up against someone else during rush hour? I'm thinking $1000 for that jimmy jam session.

    What about when you see an empty car, get on with a bunch of happy people who think they can all now sit, and see the look of horror in everyone's eyes as you all simultaneously realize that you are riding the local with a pile of poo that's playing peek-a-boo off in the corner by the senior/handicapped seats. I'll take a fine to escape poo. In fact, I'd like that written on my tombstone.

    The MTA should fine people that take up more than one seat for whatever reason, be it:

    1) if they are professional fat people whose arms double as small children and can magically turn an entire three-seater section into a single laz-e-boy with footstool and detachable cup holder; 2) they are sleeping and drooling on their drunk buddy during rush hour and you know they've been there a since the last rush hour...and they wake up and complain to you that your umbrella is hitting them in the knee(I woulda picked another place to hit but couldn't get my umbrella there, thanks). I didn't realize that I should have boarded the train with some mints for your personal bedroom pillow, mister-its-my-nap-time-and-you-can-watch-if-you-want-to.

    By the way, I love seeing all the men diving for seats that come available when there's a little old lady who clearly could use the seat and she just can't get over there in time. That's simply sad.

  • smitty

    I can't stand when guys sit with their legs completely spread on the train so that no one can sit down, or if I am able to sit down, I have to endure being molested by their stupid spread legs that they refuse to close. Gross. Just because you sit with your legs all spread does not mean I think you have a big weiner. It just makes me think you're a selfish moron.

  • marginal



    - Not moving towards center of car because you're too busy fiddling with your iPod - $100

    - California Valley accent (every sentence sounds like a question, and you use the word "like" over and over again)- $150

  • Jay

    The fine for walking between subway cars means when the subway is moving, right? Just checking.

  • S.D.

    ...

    Is this the "innovative" financing that Pataki was talking about?

    Tim, IMO, This "fee" schedule is on par with the MTA's Ussual "Logic".

    "- Fare evasion (claiming a Metrocard is damaged or that the turnstile isn't working)- $60"?

    Um, suppose it's **ACTUALLY** Broken? Does the Cop fine the rider for "Claiming" it's really broken?

    Nuts.

  • dc

    how about a fine for people who dont move to the center of the car during ruch hour?

  • Whatsthe fine for bringing a Segway on the Subway?

    Also, not enough information on the peeing of the seats. If you've been on the train at 4AM you have seen at least one person urinate.

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